Firearm Purchase Records Wiped out after 24 Hours?

[The Last Confederate]

Founds this comment on a liberal message board, and I am very interested in knowing whether or not it is true.

Ashcroft has made it the FBI's policy to wipe all gun purchase records after 24 hours. This means that it is quite easy for someone with a criminal record and a forged background to make it past the check to buy a gun and then use it on you. Thanks to Asscroft, there is no way of tracking that gun or its owner after 24 hours.

 

[geekWithA.45]

Uh, if they buy a gun on forged papers, won't they inherently either lead nowhere, to some innocent schmoe?

In which case, it really doesn't matter if they dump the records in 24 hours or 24 years.

 

[deej]

Don't forget, 4473s live forever.

 

[El Tejon]

I wish!

 

[tyme]

If you'd read the rest of the thread, it was pointed out by myself and at least one other person that what Ashcroft is doing is following the law.

The law requires the destruction of records. The Bush administration's preference has nothing to do with it, and I wouldn't be surprised if, given the choice, Ashcroft would want to keep the records too.

The forged papers scenario is garbage. Of course forged documentation will get past a background check. One way to try to prevent forged documentation is to use biometrics. It may still be possible to use fake fingerprints or iris-modifying contacts, but those become difficult to use when there's someone else watching.

 

[boofus]

According to the Brady Bill after the background check is approved records should be destroyed 'immediately'. Keeping records of approved purchases for 90 days or longer like Clinton was doing was a blatant violation of the 1986 Firearms Owners Protection Act that said no federal agency could maintain a general firearms registry. 24 hours is shorter than 90 days but still isn't 'immediate'. Note that only approvals need to be purged from the system immediately. Rejects, like if a sex offender/murderer tried to buy something at a gunshow would be kept. So not ALL records are destroyed, and then you still have the 4473 for 20 years.

Tell that liberal retard that if the government breaks both the Brady Bill and the FOPA by keeping the records for any length of time then citizens should be allowed to build new machineguns in their garages again. It was the FOPA that banned registration of new MGs. If he is condoning government violation of those laws, then why in the $!&@# should citizens be bound by them?

 

[F4GIB]

Nope. Only 20 years.

Make a point of asking dealers if they have destroyed their "over 20" records. They can. It's on the ATF web page Q&A.

 

[Wiley]

I remember that during Ashcroft's confirmation hearings the Dem-o-RATS were saying the he wouldn't uphold the law.

Now he is and they're upset.

 

[jfh]

now, does anyone know the policies in place

regarding the IT department's backup of those background checks?

I don't care what the law says--I want to know what the IT department does with the backups.

 

[rick_reno]

The question that needs to be asked is what is the backup schedule and retention peroid of the records that are being "destroyed" every 24 hours. If they're backing them up before the delete key is hit, and they're keeping them forever - guess what - they've got their registry and they're following the letter of the law.

 

[Standing Wolf]

If you'd read the rest of the thread, it was pointed out by myself and at least one other person that what Ashcroft is doing is following the law.

If we were leftist extremists, we'd refer to that as a "loop hole."

 

[cpileri]

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[Psssniper]

Heres another thread sort of on the same topic

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=967915#post967915