First Attempt at Prairie Dogging = Success!

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wankerjake

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I've recently been interested in prairie dog shooting but never could find a spot that wasn't surrounded by road and just didn't feel like scouting just for a bunch of varmints. Well I guess it was my lucky day last weekend, I was out shooting on forest service land with my brother-in-law and a rancher came up to us and said "now why are you boys shooting here? You oughta be shootin' prairie dogs in my pasture!" So he gave me directions to his camp and said to stop on by and he'd show me where. So today a buddy and I stopped by and sure enough he told me of some spots. Turns out I'd been out that way before and seen his camp but never did stop to look for dogs.

The first stop was a bust, we had a big rain last night and it was still cloudy and kind of cold. We glassed for about 30 minutes without seeing anything except what appeared to be a few mounds. However, no dogs. As we were leaving the sun started to come out and I hoped that would prompt activity at the next place. Sure enough, I pulled up next to a pasture he told us about with corrals, and after a short while I could see 2 or 3 dogs at ~ 80 yards. SO I uncased my rifle and was gonna set up on a fence post but we decided instead to drive around and set up on a high point that overlooked the pasture. This turned out to be a good idea, as we came up to that spot the original dogs were were looking out were visible at 95 yards by the rangefinder. There were 5 dogs, lounging around one of the mounds watching us set up. Haha, we massacred 3 on that first hill. Should have gotten them all, can't explain a few of the misses. Here's a view:

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After that, I scanned the field for my buddy and spotted for him. He shot for awhile and hit a few. We were going to go see how we did after awhile when my buddy sotted another family over to our left that we had probably overlooked for an hour. Well I set up on them, they were also at ~ 100 yards and I drilled 4 confirmed, but we think 5 total. One was particularly impressive in that he flew a good distance when I hit him. Don't think we found that one. Here's the 4 we found at that spot, 2 at each major mound:

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The 100gr soft point from the 243 made a mess of a few of them. Notice this one's in pieces:
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Here's 2 from a hill my buddy was set up over. 180 yards:
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And here's the 3 from the initial massacre:
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All in all we had 10 confirmed, pretty sure one of my major hits we couldn't find and we found a big bloody spot on another hill that my buddy shot but no body. Also there were shots we couldn't remember so I bet we killed a few more. The weeds were pretty tall. I was thinking we ought to stake some markers out there as reference points. Anyway pretty hilarious time, I intend to try again.

Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics, not sure why some are smaller than others. I'll try and remember to bring a camera next time :)
 
Crap... 100 grain bullets!!
Lol.
Glad you got in a decent days hunt.
 
I've only done that once. BOY, was it fun! We were going to go antelope hunting on a guy's ranch in Wyoming but he wanted to see if we could shoot first. So we brought a box of ammo each and our deer guns plus we had a shotgun in the back. We blasted about 25 of those buggers with a .25-06 and a .30-06 until we ran out of our total of 40 cartridges.
We were moping around because we didn't have any more shells with us when, almost simultaneously, we both remembered the shotgun. We raced each other back to the truck and I won. There were only the 3 shells in the gun so we decided that we'd alternate shots with me starting. I belly-crawled to about 35 yards from a mound and aimed at it and waited. When one popped out to look around, I shot it and it flew straight up in the air. I couldn't help it but I shot it again as it was falling back. Nothing was left but pieces. My buddy was mad because I shot twice .. but that's life.
 
Welcome to the addiction. You'll start classifying the prairie dogs as flippers, spinners, and other names. My favorites are the Blue prairie dogs - his head blew that way, and the rest blew the other way!
 
A .22-250 with a couple hundred loaded 55grain varmit gerandes equals more fun that any boy should have. We have hit a few dogs with a .300 win mag and even a 7STW. Yet nothing seems to have the splat factor of the .22-250. It's just plain wrong:D
 
1. Illegal to hunt from truck. Would have been my first choice.

2. The grass was tall and that was a high point to gain elevation to see the rest of the pasture. Elevation is necessary at this spot, the grass is too tall to see/shoot thru otherwise. I tried a few different spots. The most comfortable one didn't allow me to see most mounds so I had to move.

3. It wasn't as bad as it looks in the picture. To lay there the whole time it would have been pretty crappy, but I would get up and spot for my buddy and also to glass for dogs.

4. There are rocks underneath the grass too.

5. I have an idea about setting up a bench next time. We'll have to see if I can get the bench in a good position, in the shade where we can shoot in a safe direction and have good visibility.
 
Might want to try out this site. http://www.varminthunters.com/ Lots of hard core varmint whackers there. You should see some of the rigs they have. They'll got for a week and take 10k rounds for four guys.

I just bought a bench from Cabelas. Swivel seat/top. Very steady. We were on an antelope hunt last year and took the PD stuff along. Ended up shooting over three different towns.
 
Cool! It will become addictive. Since the bug bit....I now have 3 dedicated varmint rigs....reload.....and count the days until my next sod poodle safari.

One of my favorite things to do:

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An average afternoon....we keep count:
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I am a huge .204 Ruger fan....at 250 yards.....all I need is a head...never do find it.
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Mother of God. Is that a 204 Ruger making those guys explode? I just ordered 300 58gr Hornady V-Max bullets for the 243... IF I can get the 3800fps advertised it should be pretty horrific. Although even 3600 should be just as bad.
 
Don't touch those dirty things with your hands. Glad it worked well for you. As graphically messy as your 'success' turned out to be, nothing's more embarrasing than a catastophically messy prairie dogging failure.
 
1. Illegal to hunt from truck. Would have been my first choice.

2. The grass was tall and that was a high point to gain elevation to see the rest of the pasture. Elevation is necessary at this spot, the grass is too tall to see/shoot thru otherwise. I tried a few different spots. The most comfortable one didn't allow me to see most mounds so I had to move.

3. It wasn't as bad as it looks in the picture. To lay there the whole time it would have been pretty crappy, but I would get up and spot for my buddy and also to glass for dogs.

4. There are rocks underneath the grass too.

5. I have an idea about setting up a bench next time. We'll have to see if I can get the bench in a good position, in the shade where we can shoot in a safe direction and have good visibility.
Where is it against the law to shoot PDs from a vehicle on private property? I can't believe that. If you were on a public road definitely.
 
Hey wankerjake,

Welcome to the club. When my brother and I first started shooting p-dogs 7-8 years ago. Our first trip out we killed about 30-40 each day; now we consider that a very slow day, but even a day like that is a great day. I love it. When we started we were both using Ruger #1 .204s. They are incredibly explosive. I have a Rem 700 VLS .243 and have shot many with the 58 gr Hornady, which often dismemebers them. It is my 300+ yd gun., Mostly, now I shoot smaller calibers when I can, the 17 HMR in particular. I ordered a .22 Hornet about 3 weeks ago and am starting to build experimental loads. These days we go with several 1,000 rounds and 8-10 different rifles. You can go nuts with this stuff. A guy I know has a trailer he pulls behind his SUV. It is outfitted with 2 shooting benches that swivel 360 degrees. He and a buddy built it and it is really cool.
I have one advantage. I have a handicap parking placard and with it, in Kansas, I can legally shoot from the truck. I don't walk so good, so it is a big help. I called the KDWP to make sure I knew what was legal and they said that with my handicapped status I can shoot from a vehicle, but that otherwise, private property included, it is illegal. I can roll into a dog town and shoot several before they start to get wise. This is especially effective in the spring when the young dumb ones come out in droves and this is when you are the rancher's best friend. The best shoot my bro and I had was 3 years ago. On a 4 day shoot, we killed about 1,100. On another occasion, when I was alone, I killed about 450 in 2 days, most of them young ones with a .22 !! My right hand was swollen from working the bolt. This spring we killed about 400 with 300 being on the second day with my Anschutz 17 HMR. The key is finding good places to go. I do tons of research and talk to dozens of people. Every Christmas I send gift baskets to my favorite ranchers. I like these people a lot and they have become good friends. I help them on the ranches when I can. As you can see this has become a passion for me. When I am on my way home from a trip, I am planning the next one.
 
Where is it against the law to shoot PDs from a vehicle on private property? I can't believe that. If you were on a public road definitely.

1. Believe it. Arizona is one such place. Private land, public land, same rules apply. Private land owners do not own or control game animals. Game animals are regulated by Game and Fish; NOT landowners.

2. It is illegal to hunt from a vehicle in Arizona. Since prairie dogs are game animals, it is illegal to shoot them from the truck regardless of whether the land was public or private.

3. It was public land, right next to a dirt road. Ranchers in AZ can lease state land to graze livestock. They don't own the land but are granted permission to use it. This was "his" horse pasture last year, but he's not running animals in there presently. Whether his animals are in it or not, it's public land. I can see how that may be confusing to folks in states where most land is private, and I did not take the time in the original post to clarify the ins and outs of leasing state land.

I didn't write the rules, just try and follow them. Wasn't doing it the hard way because that's the way I like it, I was just working with the situation I had. I don't like getting tickets. It is my opinion that a man ought to be able to shoot prairie dogs from his truck on his own land if he pleases. And I bet it gets done on the big private ranches. And if I was hunting a big private ranch and the landowner recommended I do so... well I'd probably take his advice. Right next to a road is generally neither the time nor the place to start bending the rules, although nobody drove by while we were there.

I've hunted Arizona for over 20 years. I'm pretty familiar with game laws, especially the ones that apply directly to my hunting applications. Odds are that if you have never hunted in the state of Arizona, you can take my word for what is legal and what isn't;)
 
I use a .30-06 for my prairie dogs/ground squirrels... A little rough on the shoulder, but worth the extra recoil, at least I think so.
 
Yet nothing seems to have the splat factor of the .22-250. It's

.220 Swift :D. I use 50 gr. V-max's at a moderate 3,950 FPS.

Also, .25-06 with 75 gr. pills at 3,700 FPS will send 'em a'flyin'; I actually had one get strung over a telephone line 15' above.

My next build is a 28" 6mm-06 AI, but it won't be so much for the splat factor as simply hitting them at extreme range. The .220 kills them fine at 600-800 yards, but those light weight bullets don't hold well enough for better than ~ 15-20% hit ratio at such distances, and even less on a windy day. I'll be using Sierra Matchkings or Berger VLD's in the 6mm-06.

OP-welcome to the club! Few activities are more fun. Find a busier town, and the challenge starts to become how many can you get with one bullet. 3 is the most I've done.
 
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