First-ever ‘smart gun’ with fingerprint and facial recognition unlocking system hits the market
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unclenunzie
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I'd like to see this technology deployed in emergency defibrillators. I'm sure the average ER staffer would appreciate the added safety factor...
Deus Machina
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Good for a regular user in court. Terrible in a crisis.
Without context, it's a cool concept. I can see it eventually having applications in law enforcement, where evidence and accountability are supposed to be paramount, and there's always the risk of a struggle.
But because management and government never leave well enough alone and it's inevitably going to end up with photo- and/or video-capture, timestamps, and GPS, and has and always will have a critical need for charging and cleaning, that's where I see its uses end.
It's a bad idea for the same reason it's always good to keep a hammer in the truck but not necessarily a nailgun.
Without context, it's a cool concept. I can see it eventually having applications in law enforcement, where evidence and accountability are supposed to be paramount, and there's always the risk of a struggle.
But because management and government never leave well enough alone and it's inevitably going to end up with photo- and/or video-capture, timestamps, and GPS, and has and always will have a critical need for charging and cleaning, that's where I see its uses end.
It's a bad idea for the same reason it's always good to keep a hammer in the truck but not necessarily a nailgun.
tactikel
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Um, GLOVES! 3 out of 5 attempts to open my iPhone via fingerprint fail. A useless, expensive, potentially deadly, system.
Hollywood types either have their own guns (guns for me but not for thee) or they wouldn't want one at all.
mcb
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Ian seemed impressed enough by it to want to follow it and get one to play with. I am not likely to get one myself but the one place this technology seems like it would be an asset would be in prison management. There are times and places where gaurds have to go unarmed because they can't allow a gun to possible get out of their control. In that setting if you had a gun that would only unlock for a guard (all of them) that could be a big asset.
I am not such a Luddite that I can't seen some nitch applications for this technology is the get it reliable. The fact they are building the entire system from the ground up is going to make it both more difficult but in theory far more reliable and secure.
I am not such a Luddite that I can't seen some nitch applications for this technology is the get it reliable. The fact they are building the entire system from the ground up is going to make it both more difficult but in theory far more reliable and secure.
Ks5shooter
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Meh.....until the technology fails then your dead......
Riomouse911
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A gimmick. If some folks want to spend their money and think they can trust their lives to it, fine. If it’s mandated by legislative or executive fiat, that’s BS.
Stay safe.
Stay safe.
N555
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Steve51
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NOPE!!
N555
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I like my electric vehicle. The only charger I have ever used in 5 years is the one at my house. When gas is $5 a gallon this summer it won't be cutting into my ammo and tax stamp budget.
WestKentucky
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I support this in only a couple very specific ways. Teachers. Judges. Doctors. Daycare. And it had better be VERY reliable. Reality is that those will NEVER happen so I guess that means by process of elimination I’m against these “improvements”
N555
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Yeah seems like a gun for non-gun people who are in a less than ideal environment.
Pudge
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This is perfect for law enforcement. Never a worry about a perp talking an officer's firearm. I expect police officers and departments will be lining up for these.
Speedo66
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I can see political hack chief’s of police in big cities, I.e., LA, NY, etc. advocating these as mandatory for license holders.
Getting their rank and file officers to accept this, never. No police union president would ever go along with this for their members.
NIGHTLORD40K
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It will also require an internet connection, a subscription service, a 2-step verification code supplied by an authenticator app, and 3-rd party validation depending on an "instant" background check, a scan of your social media footprint, credit check, ESG score, and your last known voter registration before it will allow you to fire.
Scooter22
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Thats nice depending on where you live but here you'd be pushing that car.. I went up to Saranac Lake, NY Tuesday. A 500 round trip mostly through the Adirondacks. Theres no or spotty cell service, hardly any gas stations and guess what? I didn,t see a single charging station. I,ve been on the road for 41 years in all central NY so I look for things like this. A EV would be useless. Just a government ploy to control our travel.
Mosin77
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Basically no gun people want it. Plenty of good reasons why it’s a bad idea. Plenty of people who have no knowledge of firearms think it sounds great. There’s a tiny market of, let’s say, new gun buyers who know nothing about guns who are also techie types, who might buy this.
mcb
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Threads like this sort of drive me a little crazy. You can be BOTH critical of a new technology while still seeing the positive potential of the new technology... IF this was 100% reliable or at least as reliable as my guns I would want it on everyone of them.
Sigh... there was a time when all the arguments above in this thread, against this potential smart guns were made in a similar manner about firearms in general. Firearms were finicky, unreliable, slow to load, sensitive to rain and other bad weather and inaccurate compared to the long bow...
No wonder modern firearm development has nearly stopped advancing as a technology. The only change is the last 100+ years was the grudging acceptance of polymer as a viable building material.
Give me a "phase plasma rifle in the 40 watt range"...
Sigh... there was a time when all the arguments above in this thread, against this potential smart guns were made in a similar manner about firearms in general. Firearms were finicky, unreliable, slow to load, sensitive to rain and other bad weather and inaccurate compared to the long bow...
No wonder modern firearm development has nearly stopped advancing as a technology. The only change is the last 100+ years was the grudging acceptance of polymer as a viable building material.
Give me a "phase plasma rifle in the 40 watt range"...
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DeepSouth
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The only way this business model works is with government money, either by subsidies or by LEO agencies being forced to adopt it by ignorant politicians.
I doubt either will happen in substantial numbers, especially at the price point. They’ll likely be out of business in a few years. Honestly it maybe worth buying one as it’ll probably be a museum piece fairly soon, and could actually increase in value… not that I’m will to bet MY money on that.
Like everyone else in the gun market, I want be buying one.
I doubt either will happen in substantial numbers, especially at the price point. They’ll likely be out of business in a few years. Honestly it maybe worth buying one as it’ll probably be a museum piece fairly soon, and could actually increase in value… not that I’m will to bet MY money on that.
Like everyone else in the gun market, I want be buying one.
Scooter22
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A lot of people are against electric cars. A few of them probably have a good reason. But my wife, like a lot of other people, rarely drives more than 100 miles in a day. She could probably go her entire life with nothing but an electric car.
It wouldn't have worked for me back in the day when I might be halfway to Orlando and get called to Jacksonville. And can you hit Waycross first? But just because it would be a bad idea for me didn't mean it was a bad idea for everybody.
As long as electric vehicles or smart guns aren't mandatory, I don't see the harm in it.
But it better never be mandatory.
No. You’ll be dead.
More seriously, something similar was tried years ago, but it never succeeded. In addition to the concern that it might not recognize an authorized user, the system could be hacked or disabled.
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