First Pistol

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Hunter125

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I am looking into buying my first pistol. I am not new to guns by any means, but have never been able to afford a pistol of my own. I may still be a ways off money wise, but am shopping around now so I'll know what I want later. I want something that is a decent all around gun for my first pistol. Something I can carry, have on hand for HD, something with sufficient knockdown power, decent capacity, etc. I have always been a .357 fan, never really a 9mm fan. I like what I've read about .40 S&W and 10mm, but have never shot either. I have been looking at both the Glock 22 and XD 40. I have shot a Glock 17, not the biggest fan, but have heard really good things about the XD. I am open to any suggestions, not just polymer semi autos. I know that's a lot of stipulations and preferences, but I really am open to anything. Let me know what you think.
 
I would reccommend the xd over the glock for these reasons.

1) Grip safety, xd has one,glocks don't. This makes me more comfortable for some reason.

2) sights...I just don't like the 'goalpost' sights on the glocks at all.

3) Trigger. The xd trigger is much better than glock triggers imo..

Other than that I would suggest a smith or ruger .357 or .44
 
the .357 is indeed a good self defense round but it sounds to me that your in the market for an auto. i personally dont like striker fired or dao pistols because of the triggers. if you are used to a crisply breaking trigger on a nice revolver i might recommend a single action only or single/double action type pistol. i have had the opportunity to shoot many glocks and have shot an xd 40 a few times. they are solid and reliable designs, but my god, the triggers are not for me. they are long and heavy. i love 1911's but i wouldnt recommend that for a 1st gun. one of the best deals on the net these days for a solid auto is the Sig Sauer SP(Sig Pro)2022. its a high cap polymer pistol chambered in 9mm, 40sw, and 357sig. buds has the 9mm and 40 sw versions right now for around 450ish shipping included. comes with night sights, 2 mags, nice box. its a serious deal.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=411538263

read the reviews on this pistol. it is a real shooter. i own the sp2022 in 9mm and absolutely love it. godspeed and good luck.
 
I have a Glock 20C and have fired 10MM through it. I have a non-ported .40 SW conversion barrel, and have put a couple hundred rounds through that. I didn't really like the .40. It was too snappy, despite being weaker than the loads I fired with the 10MM. Granted that's a comparison of a ported vs. non-ported barrels, but that non-withstanding, I think the .40 is snappier. Incidentally, I also use a 6" non-ported 9X25 Dillon barrel, and find it to be less "snappy" than the .40. The recoil is greater, the gun gets kicked up more, but stays in line with your arm, rather than breaking your wrist.

I have read a number of threads that note pretty much the same thing about the .40. So unless you are really set on it, I'd avoid it for a first gun/do it all gun.

The 10MM is a great round, but your choice would be the Glock 29/29C or probably a 1911 style gun. The 1911 styled firearms are more expensive, and I can't think of any off-hand that would have a capacity that can come close to competing with Glock. That would significantly degrade its home defense capability.

You did not mention the .45 in your original post. I think that you'd run into a lot of the same problems with the .45 as with the 10MM, but I won't get into details, since it doesn't seem to be on your short list.

I like the .357 magnum, but would not consider it in your place. First of all, there is a significant sacrifice of capacity vs. semi-autos (don't even think about the baby Eagle -- its too expensive and I've read that the DE reliability is mediocre). Even in the 5 shot revolvers, the width and weight could be an issue (titanium/scandium guns may be light enough, but may not justify the cost). I would also consider the issue of attachments, I consider a light/laser combo under the barrel to be pretty important for a HD firearm and I don't know what the options for that would be available on a wheel gun. I know its possible to add an accessory to a revolver & some are made for it - check out the S&W TRR8 (its in their Performance Center section).

That leaves the 9MM and the .357sig. Unfortunately, I have no experience with the .357sig. Given the same height of the gun, the 9MM would give you a greater capacity. I think I would tend to lean towards the 9MM due to the relatively inexpensive ammo (which adds up when you think about range trips, not just defensive loads), availability/popularity/availability of carbines chambered for the same round, and the aforementioned capacity. That being said, don't think that I am not concerned about the 9MM stopping power, esp. in the wake of it taking 4 shots to incapacitate the Nidal Hasan, the Ft. Hood shooter, who did not even look to be in particularly good physical shape. Fortunately, many firearms available in the 9MM are also available (with a lesser capacity) in the .357sig, so you can make the choice of calibers and platforms separately.

As for the platform... I would say that the Glock is the best compromise. It is fairly inexpensive, has a good capacity (although the XDm holds more ammo), and is considered to be very reliable. I've noticed a number of people objecting to its sights, but I would beg to differ. The large sights with big bold dots allow you to get a good enough picture using a both eyes open technique out to 40+ feet. While this may not be great for target shooting, its good enough for SD outside, and quite possibly advantageous for HD/multiple adversary engagements. Parts and accessories are plentiful.
So I would say the Glock 19 is a good all-around choice. If the Glock 26 fits your hand, that's fine -- you can use larger mags for HD, and it'll give you more concealment for CCW.

I have heard great things about the XD(m), and would certainly consider it as well. You get an extra 2rds over the Glock (comparing full sized versions), and a few other benefits such as a more positive grip. Unfortunately, I do not have first hand experience with that platform, so I can't get into much more detail.

While I am excited to try an XD(m) out, I don't consider its benefits worth the extra cost in terms of an all-around gun. I believe that you will get an adequate capacity with the Glock, a better caliber selection, and equal reliability (once again, I don't have first hand experience on the XD, but have heard no complaints concerning its reliability). So for a first gun, I would prefer to take the difference in price and set it towards a light/laser like the M6X from Insight Tech.

So depending on your choice of calibers, I would strongly consider the G19, G32, G29, and the XD(m). The rest depends on your situation & budget. If you want an inexpensive setup, or if maximizing concealment is important, I would not consider it a bad idea to give some less popular brands a thought. For instance Kel-Tecs are very inexpensive, and quite compact. Even the very compact PF-9 comes with an accessory rail. You may sacrifice a bit of reliability with this option. My Kel-tec is a .32 and an older model so even though I've had a couple of failures... I wouldn't consider it a blanket indicator of the whole line's performance.

Good luck and happy shooting!
 
If you're going for a semi-auto I see nothing wrong with a Springfield XD. I would suggest buying one is .357 Sig because of the superior ballistics to the 9mm and the superior accuracy to the 40 S&W. (IMO of course) Also, you can always buy a 40 S&W barrel and have 2 calibers to shoot from the same handgun.

If you are considering a revolver I would suggest a medium frame 3" .357 Magnum. I mention a 3" barrel because it's a good compromise between carry and HD length. The .357 Magnum is a good choice because it's a proven "man stopper" and with that revolver you can also shoot light .38 Special target loads as well as .38 Special +P SD ammo too.

One thing, make sure the handgun you choose feels good in your hand. You may think that's not important but it is. If you like the gun you own you are more likely to practice with it. IMO practice is VERY important because shooting skills are perishable. In the unlikely event you will have to use that handgun to protect yourself or someone else you want to put an end to the threat quickly. Hitting what you aim at will go a long way to doing that.

Good luck finding something you like and welcome to the forum...
 
Hunter125,

I just purchased a Springfield XDm40 - my first "XD" & my first 40 S&W. Its been a real joy, fits my hand well and very light recoil. It does have some muzzle snap but nothing near a 357mag in a 4" revolver.

But, for your first handgun I recommend a Ruger or S&W 357mag revolver that fits your hand and that you like how it presents the sight picture to you. If you like how it presents but not the grip remember that aftermarket grips can often remedy that and also that these are often available in the used market still in excellent condition.

And I recommend you shoot only 38 Specials in it until you are proficient with it. This will help you avoid developing bad habits and a 38 Special makes an excellent self-defense round as it is. Later you can tinker with full house loads if you wish but no real need to if you don't.

Regards,

TB
 
Thanks for all the input guys.
Right now I think I'm leaning toward the XDm .40, but I would like to try a .40 before I commit. I've never tried .357 Sig, so I'd like to try that before I buy, too. I would like to at least make a .357 mag revolver a second pistol sometime soon, but I think for my purposes right now a semi-auto will probably be the best.
ljnowell, I am in central IL right now, will be moving close to the IL/IN border soon, in Vermillion county. You know of any places to try different guns out? I would really like to do that sometime if you know a place.
I was doing a little shopping around today and found the Beretta Storm. Anybody have any experience with one, have any opinions about it? Just caught my eye, thought I'd ask.
 
I made my first handgun buy back in 1987, the day after I turned 21. I selected a .357, and proceeded to see if I could teach myself to shoot it. Two weeks later, I was back in the store for a .22LR. Point is, for me back then, the Magnum was just too expensive for the casual shooting I was starting out doing. But, it did promptly become my defense weapon (I was delivering pizza full-time back then) and also offered the versatility of being able to swallow less-expensive .38 Special ammo as well.
Can't go wrong with a good Magnum. I like autoloaders, too, and some will argue that, while you can't go wrong with the wheelgun, you can go "more right" with a slider. My main carry piece is one, but my bedside grabber is that same Magnum (loaded with .38+P ammo.)
 
If you're going for a semi-auto I see nothing wrong with a Springfield XD.
I concur. 9MM for cheap shooting, .40 for more power, .357 if ya just like muzzle blast. :)

My nephew just shot a bunch of autos and revolvers with me a couple of weekends ago. Favorite? XD in .40 cal. Enough recoil to keep his interest, easy to shoot well (As a beginner he was shooting 3 to 5" groups at around 15 yards), very good trigger, easy to break down for cleaning. etc :)
 
Te only guy who can answer this question adequately is you. Go to a range that rents guns and try on a few for size. Invite your friends along and try some of their recommendations. Shoot enough guns from various manufacturers so that you'll get a feel for what they offer and how the gun performs for you. Then, eventually, you'll select the one gun that best fits your hand and eye. The bottom line is that the gun you choose has to work for you and not for someone else, however well-meaning the person is who provides you with a recommendation.
 
If cost is a consideration then choose a 9mm. If you can't afford to practice then you won't. A bigger faster bullet doesn't mean squat if you aren't proficient with the weapon. 9mm ammo goes for about $12/box around here, 38spl-$15-16+, .357mag-$18+, .45acp-$20+, .40-$16+, 10mm(if you can find it) $25-30+.

When I started it was with a .38spl. Ammo was very cheap then and I milked that for all it was worth. Nowadays, I reload my ammo.
 
"... looking into buying my first pistol..." Hi. Go to your local gun shop and try a few on for size. A pistol, just like a revolver, has to fit your hand to be able to shoot it well. Forget the calibre for the time being.
Ask the other shooters where you shoot if you can try their pistols too. Most shooters will bend over backwards to help you. Join a shooting club if you don't already belong to one. Doors open.
"...Glock 17, not the biggest fan..." Find 'em a bit slippery? I did. Fit my hand ok, but I found the stock grip a bit slippery. Pachmayr makes a slip on adaptor that makes the slippery part go away. Doesn't matter if the pistol doesn't fit or you just don't like the feel.
Personally, for my short but wide hand, a .45 Government Model and a Browning HP fit.
"...10mm..." Pricey ammo that isn't always easy to get. $24.49 per 50 for CCI Blazer, $28.49 per 50 for Federal at Midway.
.40 S&W is quite a bit less expensive. $20ish per 50.
"...never been able to afford a pistol of my own..." Don't discount buying used. It takes a great deal of abuse to damage a modern pistol. The pistol still has to fit your hand and not cost a pile of money to shoot. Fitting your hand is the most important thing.
 
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