First time 1858 at the range.

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Not bad at all! I love my pietta 1858 as well. Its a whole new world of learning about guns...almost like learning a new language.
 
expat_alaska said:
Got a real kick out of the wording on the target. Did they actually have BP, caps, and balls for sale for you to shoot?

Nice looking gun and it is nice to see someone have fun with one for the first outing. I am a replica 1851 Navy guy so you Remmy 1858 guys have a good time!

Jim
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They relaxed their ammo requirement during the ammo shortage. If you buy their ammo the range is free, otherwise $25. Nice store and people.
 
The barrel looks shorter than mine. Did it shoot high ? I just got back into shooting BP revolvers, naturally the NMA's seeing how that's what I used 40 years ago at Friendship and back then they would shoot about a foot high at 25yds. We'd put a higher front sight on them. I just bought four of them and broke my leg so I haven't got out to shoot them yet. One was the carbine and one the buffalo so both of them have adjustable sights. Just wondering if I was gonna have to do something with the other two without adj. sights. Yes they are a lot of fun - I can't wait for this leg to heal up - I'll have a whole day of shooting ahead of me.
 
paul harm said:
The barrel looks shorter than mine. Did it shoot high ? I just got back into shooting BP revolvers, naturally the NMA's seeing how that's what I used 40 years ago at Friendship and back then they would shoot about a foot high at 25yds. We'd put a higher front sight on them. I just bought four of them and broke my leg so I haven't got out to shoot them yet. One was the carbine and one the buffalo so both of them have adjustable sights. Just wondering if I was gonna have to do something with the other two without adj. sights. Yes they are a lot of fun - I can't wait for this leg to heal up - I'll have a whole day of shooting ahead of me.
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51/4" barrel. For me it shot low and to the left. Probably operator error though. Looking forward to shooting it again. Hope you heal up soon.
 
Well, it's still snowing here in Michigan so I can't complain too much. Even with two good legs I probably wouldn't be doing much shooting. But once the weather breaks I'll be like you - looking forward to doing a little BP pistol shooting.
 
Nice shooting, fun isn't it. Indoor range with black powder, must have one heck of a ventilation system My gun club doesn't permit black on the indoor range.
 
I ve heard several times that the adjustable sight(target model..etc)
Isn't that practical.
I'd have thought this would make the perfect BP target pistol tho.
Anyway, NMA got a hell of a reputation in precision for
A 160 years old bad boy..
I'm receiving mine on Thursday.

Did you get a spare cylender with it for the range ?
Like that holster btw
 
Bagheera said:
I ve heard several times that the adjustable sight(target model..etc)
Isn't that practical.
I'd have thought this would make the perfect BP target pistol tho.
Anyway, NMA got a hell of a reputation in precision for
A 160 years old bad boy..
I'm receiving mine on Thursday.
Did you get a spare cylender with it for the range ?
Like that holster btw
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Thanks. The holster is a Triple K for 51/4" barrel from Cabelas . I really like the short length. I haven't tried to adjust the sights. I'll work on my skill instead. The spare cylinder is on my shopping list. Cheers!
 
35 or 40 years ago I shot the Lyman NMA and a Witeloe NMA with adj sights at 25 and 50 yards off hand. I liked the adj sights, as I remember they worked out just fine. I'll fine out in a couple more weeks when I can get to the range. I have two new NMA with the 8" barrel [ or whatever it is ] and a NMA Buffalo with adj sights. What we use to do was install higher sights for up and down, most of ours back then shot fine for right and left. A higher front sight dovetailed in would be good for both ways.
 
stageman said:
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Finally got to the range to shoot my Pieta 1858. First time ever with black powder. It was cold and snowing, so I only shot 4 cylinders. The recoil is so different from .45 acp. Fun time.
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That looks like the blued version of my SS Pietta Sheriff's 1858. I own a few Piettas but mostly Uberti but I have to say my Pietta Sheriff's model has perfect timing. The bolt pops up exactly into the cylinder slots....no drag lines.
 
Bagheera said:
I've heard several times that the adjustable sight (target model, etc.)
Isn't that practical?
I'd have thought this would make the perfect BP target pistol though.
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I edited your post for punctuation. Sorry. I grew up in the 50's-60's when it was mandatory to have such abilities to do so. I know you are a transplant from SoCal to France.

Bagheera, here are few things for thought insofar as specialized BP target pistols are concerned.

There are very specialized shooters, and I do not pretend to know why and what their mindset is other than bullseye shooting. They must be very involved in their hobby, which is maybe probably very small and localized. Many of the guns are so much hybridized that it is very strange to me and they must have spent quite a bit of money and time to do so. Many of the parts for these guns are handmade and/or must have been meticulously hand fitted for the particular pistol/application.

Flint locks have a very slow lock time between the press of the trigger and the barrel powder charge ignition compared to percussion locks, so that must take a bit of time to get used to it insofar as shooting the gun. Loading a flint lock gun also take more time to load the main powder charge (via a ramrod into the barrel muzzle) and priming the pan. All of the flint locks are single shot.

I can see from the photos that some used a S&W Model 41 .22 grip and frame.

The last pic shows a flint lock with modern (Bomar?) sights.

Have a good night, Bagheera.

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I guess they have more money than I do.

Jim
 
Jim I don't always understand everything you say and why you say it(to me) but..
sure.
Scuse ma french,
J essaierai de m en souvenir
"Ce qui se conçoit bien s enonce clairement et Les mots pour le dire arrivent aisément"..
: )

Hey Stageman,here's mine.
And his little cousin..
(Sheriff s model is more esthetic,
I'll slick mine up)
How much did you load, how did you manage the recoil?didnt shoot it yet

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Bagheera said:
Jim I don't always understand everything you say and why you say it (to me) but..
J essaierai de m en souvenir
"Ce qui se conçoit bien s enonce clairement et Les mots pour le dire arrivent aisément".
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I will try to remember
"What is conceived is clearly stated and the words to say it easily arrive".

Is that adequate? Sincerely, I don't understand what you are trying to convey.

I was not posting it exclusively to you. I was only trying to answer a post that you made about precision BP pistols that are not made by any factory, for everyone on this forum to see and respond to, and a few people have done so.

Sometimes you think any responses to your posts are a personal affront to you if the response disagrees with your viewpoint. That is not the case.

Opinions are like a certain orifice, and everyone has one. Everyone is entitled to theirs, but don't think yours is better than anyone else's.

Hey Stageman,here's mine. And his little cousin. (Sheriff's model is more aesthetic.)
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I think you have been reading too many modern replica descriptions about "sheriff" models. Yes, some original short barreled pistols were referred to as such, but in this day and age, anything with a shorter than standard barrel is advertised as such. Colt made 1848/1849 .31 Pocket pistols, as well as the Pocket Police/Pocket Navy in .36, in several barrel lengths, but none were referred to as such, and neither were the 1863 NMA Remingtons.

Your "sheriff's" model is a cartridge break-open top-break pistol, in no way similar to the 1863 Remington New Model Army repro pictured with it. Apples and oranges. Like comparing a 1911 and a Glock.

Don't take it personally, sir.

Jim
 
Jim I wasn't talking about my topbreak.
Was talking about his "sheriff" Remington..
Yeah I know pietta has great marketing ideas, imaginary names too,works though.
If u mention my name out of the blue I'm gonna react.
And that thread is interesting, our feuds are not.
Nice translation btw
 
Bagheera said:
Jim I don't always understand everything you say and why you say it(to me) but..
sure.
Scuse ma french,
J essaierai de m en souvenir
"Ce qui se conçoit bien s enonce clairement et Les mots pour le dire arrivent aisément"..
: )

Hey Stageman,here's mine.
And his little cousin..
(Sheriff s model is more esthetic,
I'll slick mine up)
How much did you load, how did you manage the recoil?didnt shoot it yet

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30 grains with a .454 ball. Recoil is similar but not as snappy as a .45 1911.
 
I shot pistol on the NMLRA range for hell, I can't even remember now, but did it for over 10 years. There are people who get serious about shooting 10's or X's on their targets. Can some money be spent - yes - but if that's what you like to do, why not. Guys spend over 20,000 on a motor bike or boat, so what's wrong if someone spends a thousand on a couple of guns ? I had a Jack Lewis single shot 50cal percussion pistol - looked like a revolver without the cylinder, just a slab of steel where the cylinder was with a place for the barrel to be inserted, a Lyman NMA for traditional revolver events, a Witeloe for any revolver event - it had adj sights, and a back action 50cal flint pistol I made. Once I made the Master class it got kind of competitive if you know what I mean and I never won another event. It was fun and a challenge. Now a days I just shoot for fun and think I never should have been in the Master class - a lucky week of shooting. What do they say - a blind squirrel finds a nut soon or later.
 
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