Five robberies in less than a week's time, after"no-guns" signs posted

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Last week, Ohioans For Concealed Carry began receiving reports of "no-guns" signs being posted in United Dairy Farmers (UDF) stores in Ohio. An investigation by Business Education Coordinator Joe Eaton discovered the Ohio-based chain had just ordered signs to be posted in Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana stores.

Although it didn't take long for OFCC supporters to begin responding to the discriminatory signs, OFCC has learned that criminals in Ohio appear to have responded even more rapidly

Cincinnati Crime Stoppers is offering a reward for tips leading to the arrest of a man wanted for aggravated robbery of a UDF store in Cincinnati on March 28.


WANTED FOR AGGRAVATED ROBBERY
Robbery

On 03-28-05 at 4:06 am the suspect entered UDF at 3325 Clifton Av displaying a gun and a note. The suspect wore a black mask, rose colored sunglasses, and black gloves.
WBNS-10TV.com is reporting that police are on the hunt for the man they believe robbed three UDF stores within a couple hours last Friday morning, April 1.

From the story:

Police say the suspect entered the store, implied he had a weapon in a note he passed to the cashier.

The suspect robbed the UDF on West Broad Street at 3:40 a.m., one on High Street at 6:09 a.m. and then finally, one on Norton Road at 8:30 a.m.

No one was injured in the robberies and police are currently reviewing surveillance video. They can say they believe the robberies are the work of one man.

Detective Edward Dahlman of the Columbus Police Robbery Squad says, "We believe they are because of the basic description of the suspect and his method of operation. He came in and approached the teller and then passed a note. And after the robbery demand note was passed, then obviously he wanted her to hurry up and he told her to hurry up."

Customers say they saw the suspect flee on foot. Police only have a vague description of the suspect.
According to a Columbus police report discovered by an alert OFCC supporter, a fifth Columbus UDF store was robbed just hours later. From the report, Case # 050271963:

Location: 1188 N. Wilson Rd.
City: Columbus
Zone: 3
Precinct: 15
District: 150
Occurred:4/3/2005 11:33:00 PM
Reported by: Officer Townsley, jr
Badge: 1531

Report Narrative:

REPORTING PERSON STATES THAT AT LISTED TIME, SUSPECT CAME INTO THE STORE AND WENT INTO THE RESTROOM. AFTER A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, SUSPECT CAME OUT OF THE RESTROON, LEANED OVER THE COUNTER TOWARDS THE VICTIM AND TOLD HER TO "GIVE HIM THE MONEY IN THE DRAWER." VICTIM STATES THAT SHE THOUGHT THE SUSPECT WAS KIDDING. SUSPECT THEN LEANED A LITTLE FARTHER OVER THE COUNTER, WITH HIS HANDS UNDER HIS COAT THE ENTIRE, TIME AND TOLD THE VICTIM TO "GIVE ME THE F***ING MONEY IN THE DRAWER, OR I`LL TAKE THIS GUN OUT AND F***ING SHOOT YOU." VICTIM STATES THAT SHE THEN GAVE HIM THE MONEY AND THE SUSPECT LEFT THE STORE.
Even as these robberies were being committed, UDF Director of Security John Osborne had begun emailing concerned customers as follows:

The Shareholders and Senior Management felt the SAFEST policy for Customer and Employees would be to post our stores for No Concealed Carry. Personally, as a 34 year police veteran, I agree with the decision!

JOHN W. OSBORNE
Director of Security
(513)366-8497
Is five robberies in less than a week's time the type of "safety" UDF has in mind?
Contact information for Ohio-based United Dairy Farmers is as follows:

United Dairy Farmers
Robert Lindner Jr., President
3955 Montgomery Rd.
Cincinnati,Ohio 45212
www.udfinc.com

Phone: 1-800-833-9911
Email: [email protected]
 
Why did the cashier give up the money, there is NO way the guy actually had a gun, i mean, the sign said no guns!
 
So these few stores on the same street put up signs, and immediatly a robber makes five trips and robs them?
Hilarious. >_>
 
Maybe they should make the signs say "DO NOT TAKE THAT F***ING GUN OR POINTED FINGER INTO THIS STORE OR YOU'LL BE ASKED TO F***ING LEAVE". That way the criminal would be able to understand the sign.
 
Maybe they should have just posted signs that said, "Nope, there's no way to stop you from robbing this store. Come right in and take our money." :banghead:
 
I'd prefer ones that say: All of our cusomers are free Americans. Many may be armed and willing to blast you out of your socks if youattempt to rob us!
 
My sig.

pax

Why don't they just put up a sign that says, "No robberies allowed"? -- Don Stahlnecker
 
<sarcasm on>

Udpate: To provide faster service to Criminals whom wish to Rob United Dairy Farmers (UDF) stores in Ohio. Two new services have been offered:

1- Express Robbery lane.

Yes money is in a nice attractive Canvas Bag , Just enter the store , enter the Express Lane from any angle, grab the money bag and leave.

2- Drive Up Robbery Lane.

We at UDF understand when our Criminals are drunk, stoned or both, getting out of the vehicle is not convienent, and such a hassle. When you use our Express Drive Up Robbery Lane, the Ding Ding of the Welcome air hose bell alerts one of our Courtesy Clerks to just run outside and toss the Canvas bag of money into the the vehicle for you.

<sarcasm off>
 
Sad thing is these signs probably won't come down. They'll probably put more of the same up thinking that they need more to be effective... :uhoh:
 
HOW DARE THOSE CRIMINALS NOT OBEY THE LAW AND BRING A GUN INTO THESE STORES, WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO....WHY IT SHOULD BE AGAINST THE LAW TO NOT OBEY A SIGN...... Oh wait....
 
El Tejon...

Wednesday is Double Coupon Day :D

Hey, even honor competitors coupons...no coupon...hey man no sweat... you want sprinkles in the complimentary Fru Fru Coffee too?

Ya know...someone will take my smart-aleck post as being real. Not sure if the UDF folks will implement my ideas above - or - the criminals will look for the curb service, or indoor Express lane...and the free Fru Fru coffee....

sad huh?
 
The Shareholders and Senior Management felt the SAFEST policy for Customer and Employees would be to post our stores for No Concealed Carry. Personally, as a 34 year police veteran, I agree with the decision!

Personally, as an American citizen, I believe that retired cop is a complete nitwit.
 
I'm wondering how long the retarded "JOHN W. OSBORNE, Director of Security" is going to have a job. He promotes an asinine plan, it blows up in his face and he defends it. Brilliant!
 
Ohio business owners that post these signs are as sheepish as your going to find. At what point does common sence leave and stupidity take over? I'm serious, how can someone that runs a successful store or even a bank actually believe a do not carry sign can help their business.

Must be a Harvard MBA class that I haven't heard about.
 
'm wondering how long the retarded "JOHN W. OSBORNE, Director of Security" is going to have a job. He promotes an asinine plan, it blows up in his face and he defends it. Brilliant!

I agree, his elevator doesn't go all the way to the top. But, hey? Who gave the business the legal right to post the sign? The Ohio legislature and governor.
They're the true source of this idiocy.

They can post such signs here in Georgia. Guess what going to happen if a cop notices you're carrying in such a business? If it's not one of the prohibited areas listed in the Georgia Code...nothing. Of course, you can tell anyone you wish to leave your premises...the sign just has no legal force or penalty.

On the other hand, in the areas prohibitied by the Georgia legislature, the penalty is in force with no need of a sign being posted.
 
Criminals aren't ALL stupid. For example, you'll never see an armed robbery of a store marked 'Concealed carry customers welcome, present license for a complimentary 2.5% discount'.
 
I have lived in Ohio most of my adult life and I still have trouble beliving the stupidity of our govt. :(
 
Here in Minnesota a few of the bars along West 7th street in St Paul (kinda rough area, but not anywhere near ghetto) put up signs. Over the next few months it was noted that there were more armed robberies, and, coincidentally, those robberies occurred only at bars with the signs up.

Almost all of the signs came down.
 
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