fixed blade ccw?
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Brian Williams
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6" Old Hickory cut down to 4"...
On Blade forums, in the Fixed blade-traditionals section there is a real nice stag handled fixed blade
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=484120
On Blade forums, in the Fixed blade-traditionals section there is a real nice stag handled fixed blade
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=484120
rcmodel
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Many jurisdictions frown on fixed-blade knives, and consider them the same as concealed weapons.
They don't even blink an eye if you carry the same length folder "work knife" with the pocket clip showing.
rcmodel
They don't even blink an eye if you carry the same length folder "work knife" with the pocket clip showing.
rcmodel
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Ontario RAT 3 is (in my mind) very close to the ideal in terms of this
application: cost/quality/concealability/utility.
Around $85.
A very nice knife.
A bit larger and you get into stuff like the RAT 5, Camillus CQB, and
Becker Campanion, and maybe something from Al Mar or Benchmade Nimravus.
Those are too large for me, though.
Ontario RAT 3 is (in my mind) very close to the ideal in terms of this
application: cost/quality/concealability/utility.
Around $85.
A very nice knife.
A bit larger and you get into stuff like the RAT 5, Camillus CQB, and
Becker Campanion, and maybe something from Al Mar or Benchmade Nimravus.
Those are too large for me, though.
Joe Demko
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4" Old Hickory butcher knife with the handle reshaped to have finger grooves.
Welcome JoeBubya!
The laws for concealed folders vary greatly depending on which state you live in as well as possible local ordnances. For example, CA is quite liberal regarding the size (no limit) of folders you wish to keep in pocket or belt.
In this case, the OP is asking about fixed-blade knives specifically.
The laws for concealed folders vary greatly depending on which state you live in as well as possible local ordnances. For example, CA is quite liberal regarding the size (no limit) of folders you wish to keep in pocket or belt.
In this case, the OP is asking about fixed-blade knives specifically.
Pax Jordana
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I am saving for a cold steel Kobun, though I find myself in the unhappy position of Flat Broke - that's what happens, they tell me, in college
Joe,
Depends on what state you're from - remember there are 50 of 'em.
Joe,
Depends on what state you're from - remember there are 50 of 'em.
jahwarrior
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if i had a choice, i'd carry a khukuri, or maybe a hissatsu. alas, i can only carry a concealed firearm, or pocket folder.
Joe Dubya,
Welcome to THR.
As CWL and PJ have pointed out, each state has it's own laws regarding knives and carrying them. You can research the individual laws on possession and carry by going to a good third party summary site like Howard Levine's and look at what he's put together or mine the individual state websites for their laws. For the most part though, if the knife is on your belt or clipped in your pocket with the clip expose on the outside of the pocket, it is not considered concealed (YMMV).
Welcome to THR.
As CWL and PJ have pointed out, each state has it's own laws regarding knives and carrying them. You can research the individual laws on possession and carry by going to a good third party summary site like Howard Levine's and look at what he's put together or mine the individual state websites for their laws. For the most part though, if the knife is on your belt or clipped in your pocket with the clip expose on the outside of the pocket, it is not considered concealed (YMMV).
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A fixed blade offers two advantages over a folder, if your local laws permit its carry. The fixed blade is ready for immediate use upon drawing. This is an advantage when every split second counts. Also, its design is stronger than a folder. While these points obviously favor a fixed blade, skill and determination are more important factors.
With this in mind, I recommend the carrying the largest blade that is legal in your particular jurisdiction, if you can bring yourself to use a knife. Please remember that any knife is not a "light saber" that can incapacitate a BG with the flick of a wrist. You must close with your assailant and be prepared to inflict gory, potentially fatal, injuries. Think about this before you decide upon a blade for self-defense. Sadly, too many people neglect this awful truth.
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With this in mind, I recommend the carrying the largest blade that is legal in your particular jurisdiction, if you can bring yourself to use a knife. Please remember that any knife is not a "light saber" that can incapacitate a BG with the flick of a wrist. You must close with your assailant and be prepared to inflict gory, potentially fatal, injuries. Think about this before you decide upon a blade for self-defense. Sadly, too many people neglect this awful truth.
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Any fixed blade I can legally carry in NC. Which limits my choices to....NONE.
*sigh*
It doesn't bother me, until I remember that I AM licensed to carry as many HANDGUNS as I can conceal on my person, no problemo! But a knife...NEVER!
*sigh*
It doesn't bother me, until I remember that I AM licensed to carry as many HANDGUNS as I can conceal on my person, no problemo! But a knife...NEVER!
8830
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I'm in Texas and restricted to 5.5" max length and single edge blade. I carry a Cold Steel Kobun IWB left side blade forward and a Ka-Bar TDI right side OWB. Total cost for both knives was $60. I am thinking of trying a RAT3 since the Kobun rubber grips chafe my side if worn more than 4 hours.
BullfrogKen
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I carry a Jaws designed by Laci Szabo, made by Fred Perrin. You can find one here http://www.bladeart.com/artists/laci_szabo/laci_szabo.htm or contact him personally at www.szaboinc.com
I'm personally a big fan of fixed blades for defensive carry.
most definitely, hands down, the
M.O.D. (Masters of Defense) Massad Ayoob "Razorback"
LOVE IT. definitely check it out. not made anymore, but still a lot of stock on hand, can get it pretty easy on the web.
http://www.1sks.com/store/masters-of-defense-massad-ayoob-razorback.html
M.O.D. (Masters of Defense) Massad Ayoob "Razorback"
LOVE IT. definitely check it out. not made anymore, but still a lot of stock on hand, can get it pretty easy on the web.
http://www.1sks.com/store/masters-of-defense-massad-ayoob-razorback.html
DragonRider
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Can we get a closeup pic of how you are carrying that blade Bullfrog??
TIA
John
TIA
John
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amper
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At under $200, I'd look at the Gerber Yari, if you can find one. They stopped making them a few years ago. There's plenty of similar knives out there, though. I've also always liked the Mark I.
I'm also partial to the Cold Steel Tanto. If money were no object, I'd have a Cold Steel Imperial Tanto (limited edition of 1000), or maybe an Imperial Tai-Pan (also a limited run). Both of those are no longer manufactured, but regular Tantos and Tai-Pans can be found out there.
That's all I could think of off the top of my head.
I'm also partial to the Cold Steel Tanto. If money were no object, I'd have a Cold Steel Imperial Tanto (limited edition of 1000), or maybe an Imperial Tai-Pan (also a limited run). Both of those are no longer manufactured, but regular Tantos and Tai-Pans can be found out there.
That's all I could think of off the top of my head.
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I've been considering this myself for when hiking, etc. I've been a big fan of my CRKT folders and was looking for something not too expensive.
Anybody have any opinions on the CRKT C/K dragon or the ABC operator?
http://www.crkt.com/dragon.html
http://www.crkt.com/abcaqua.html
Thanks!
Anybody have any opinions on the CRKT C/K dragon or the ABC operator?
http://www.crkt.com/dragon.html
http://www.crkt.com/abcaqua.html
Thanks!
Got both. Both are pretty good for what they're intended. The Operator is a little more EDC while the Dragon is pure weapon.
Been looking long and hard at the Kershaw Military Boot Knife (also the RAT-5, but price is an object).
1.4116 steel isn't particularly tough and it won't hold an edge as well as some, but I'm not looking for a utility knife (that's what my spydie is for), just a SD piece. I've read plenty of favorable reviews from those who expected a sharp knife that was solely for SD purposes, and plenty of not very favorable reviews from those who wanted a multipurpose tool. The carry system looks promising...
Thoughts? Opinions?
1.4116 steel isn't particularly tough and it won't hold an edge as well as some, but I'm not looking for a utility knife (that's what my spydie is for), just a SD piece. I've read plenty of favorable reviews from those who expected a sharp knife that was solely for SD purposes, and plenty of not very favorable reviews from those who wanted a multipurpose tool. The carry system looks promising...
Thoughts? Opinions?
i love that one too. just to throw out more options, the other 2 i was contemplating were the Mercworx Shiva (http://www.mercworx.com/detail.aspx?ID=29) and Protech Tactical Brend Elite Combat Dagger (http://www.bladehq.com/item--Protech-Tactical-Brend--1886)
um wait
now that i read your post again, i thought you were talking about the Kershaw Trooper Boot Knife (http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=KS1007) which is more in line with the 2 above.
so i guess this post is worthless, but im gonna post it anyways
The Kershaw boot is a proven design that's been around forever. As a dagger it's a pretty good design for thrusting, but it certainly isn't suitable for cutting/slashing. Also, check your laws on double edged or dagger possession/carry to see if it is legal. There are plenty of other options that won't add that additional burden.
mljdeckard
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I keep my CRKT in my pocket at all times, but if I ever had a need to carry a serious fighting blade, I would hang my Gerber Mk II upside-down in the small of my back. In Utah you can carry concealed knives with a CCW.
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