FL "Stand Your Ground" law goes into effect today!

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From the Pensacola News Journal


TALLAHASSEE -- Floridians no longer have to try to avoid or escape an assailant before killing such an assailant to protect themselves.

A new law takes effect today that has drawn national attention. And it has roots in Pensacola.

It's called the "stand your ground" law. It was passed by the Legislature in April -- at the behest of the National Rifle Association -- and signed by Gov. Jeb Bush the same month.

The new law provides immunity to those who use deadly force in defense of life and limb, eliminating a previous requirement that a person first attempt to flee a threat before taking a life.

State Sen. Durell Peaden, R-Crestview, who sponsored the bill, was inspired by James Workman, who killed an intruder in his southwest Escambia County home in the early hours of Nov. 3, 2004.

The State Attorney's Office investigated and filed no charges, which critics of the new law cite as evidence that self-defense provisions already were sufficient. Peaden said Workman should have been spared the investigation.

The law has drawn sharp criticism from some civil rights organizations. In May, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference staged a protest in Pensacola.

Now, as "stand your ground" becomes state law, anti-gun violence advocates are launching a campaign to inform visitors and others of what it considers a dangerous situation.

The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence is buying newspaper ads and handing out fliers in at least one Florida airport.

Among the fliers' suggestions: "Do not argue unnecessarily with local people."

Said Peter Hamm, communications director for the Brady group: "The law has taken a profound new step toward a general blessing of gun violence in public places. It was our job to educate as many people as possible."

As initially proposed, the law also drew opposition from law enforcement groups and prosecutors because the bill made them criminally and civilly liable if they filed charges against people who are later vindicated under the criteria of the new law.

Changes were made, however, that satisfied them.

Assistant Pensacola Police Chief Chip Simmons said he did not believe the law would have much effect on the use of deadly force.

"I wouldn't say we're overly concerned with it," he said. "We're hopeful that people will be prudent."

Peaden suggested the new law might even serve as a deterrent.

"With the awareness of all this, maybe crime is dropping," Peaden said. "The criminal element, they know this is out there."

The Rev. Hugh King, president of the Pensacola chapter of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, fears the new statute might promote unnecessary violence.

"It gives every citizen the same discretionary power to use deadly force that is sometimes abused by trained law enforcement officers," he said. "That's dangerous. We want to get this law repealed before we see the bloodshed escalate. ... We don't want it to become a move backward toward vigilante justice."

Hamm harbors similar concerns.

"It's a horrible message that the public seems to have received about this law," he said. "We hope not, but we are certainly worried that (more shootings) will be the case."

Hamm is not discouraging people from visiting Florida, but he believes it is important that tourists be informed, he said. The group will hand out informational fliers starting Monday at Miami International Airport. It also is purchasing advertisements in Boston, London, Chicago and Detroit newspapers with warnings.

Hamm said the new law is a dangerous solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

"Our jails are not full of people who shot someone in self-defense," he said.

Peaden cast the law as a matter of principle.

"It doesn't matter if these statutes are never used. At least it's on the books," he said. "We need to do everything we can ... to preserve that Second Amendment right."

News Journal staff writer Brett Norman contributed to this report.
 
Slurpy: You have such a way with words, and you're so inciteful! Yo momma must really be proud! :evil:
 
I hope everyone down there stocked up on bleach and swiffers, there's gonna be a run on them once the blood starts running in the streets :p
 
Oh the horror, blood in the streets. BLOOD IN THE STREETS!!

Shootouts in the parking lot! The OK Corral has come to your office building!


:D

I think it's funny how the Brady Bunch are trying so hard to spin this to make tourists stay away from Florida, but in essence all their propaganda is saying is "Don't go attacking people!"
 
I mean if you just think about this thing, it really is brilliant. Anti-gunners are warning tourists to mind their manners in Florida. How is this a bad thing? "Don't argue with the locals." What they really should say is, "No one died and elected you king. Just because you are on vacation in our state doesn't give you the right to act like an ass and be rude. Please treat us with respect and we will have no problems treating you with respect and helping you spend your money down here." Of course we all know that you still have to meet the rules of imminient threat, so this thing really only changes the attitude of self-defense. No one can make those rediculous claims that some Floridian is going to get sued or thrown in jail for a legit shoot. Floridians don't have to fear the justice system more than defending their own life from a legitimate threat.

Seriously, they are proving that an armed society is a polite society. I love it.
 
To celebrate the new law...

I went to a presentation yesterday by a leading Florida RKBA attorney giving his analysis of the details of the new law. It was great!

The presentation was held at one of our local gun shops with an indoor range, Knight Shooting Sports. They cleared out the range area and set up folding chairs in the lanes. It felt pretty weird to be sitting out there. :what: I kept wanting to pick at the divots in the floor. :eek:

It was a very good presentation, very informative. I'd say at least 150 people showed up.

Afterwards I commemorated the event by buying a new Kimber Warrior. It seemed appropriate. :evil:
 
Is it just me, or is Art's Grammaw on vacation? :scrutiny:
Rumor has it she was down in St. Petersburg caught up in a running gun battle with the Barrow gang when she was swept off her feet by a blood-tsunami that carried her into the sea.

Film at 11.
 
What is really funny is that when we want to make fun of the antis we just quote what they say. Normally you have to exaggerate or add some color to the other sides message to poke fun at them.
 
The archaic duty-to-retreat laws are so full of holes in most states they no longer have any meaning. Florida is just cleaning up the books. This will have no real impact other than removing a pointless legal cloud over self defense situations.
 
Sounds good to me.........I think every state should follow. I have a CCW from my home state, Arkansas. I travel to Florida once a year for vacation and I AIN"T SKEERED! The way I look at it, if your keeping your nose clean so to speak there's no problem. If you can't defend yourself or your family, something is VERY wrong.
 
The part that's really ironic is that Florida's relatively liberal CCW laws and now this new "no duty to retreat" law are all intended to make tourists MORE safe, by ensuring that they are empowered to defend themselves against armed scumbags who prey on ... TOURISTS.

I guess Mrs. Brady didn't get the memo ...
 
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