Flash suppressed powder recommendations?

[chrisf8657]

Hi guys,


I’m looking for a flash suppressed or low flash powder for SD loads that can achieve the following velocities (which I’ve done using regular flash bulb in your face powders):


9mm +p 124g gdhp 1250fps glock

357 magnum 158g 1175fps medium load 4in revolver

38 special +p 125g hp 1075fps 4in revolver


I have found ram shot silhouette excellent for 45 acp +p 230g gdhp at 950fps (their load data) out of a 1911.


I am perfectly fine using 3 or 4 different powders.


Thanks guys!

 

[rfwobbly]

For pistol.... Alliant BE-86 and VihtaVuori N340

 

[Dudedog]

9mm +p 124g gdhp 1250fps glock

1250 is pushing a 124 pretty hard even allowing + P, IMO.
Would need to be something slow like 3N37, but anything slow enough to get you close is probably not low flash....

 

[AJC1]

Walkalong and a few others posted in a similar thread and said promo was good. Never tried it myself.

 

[Steve C]

Bullseye 86 (previously mentioned) is the only powder I have seen that is advertised as having a flash suppressant in included. https://www.alliantpowder.com/products/powder/be-86.aspx

You can get the velocities you are looking for in .38 +P and ,357 mag using data listed on the Alliant website using Bullseye 86. Not going to approach 1,250 fps with the 124/125gr JHP's in the 9mm without using a slower powder like HS7, Blue Dot or maybe Power Pistol all of which give quite a muzzle flash when shot.

Generally I just buy the Hot 9mm stuff because I have no desire to shoot much of it. Have a couple boxes of Winchesster +P+ 127gr Ranger SXT's surplus police ammo. I chrono'd some of those out of my Glock 19 and they averaged 1,273 fps.

 

[WrongHanded]

I also would say BE-86 is worth trying.

So far I've only loaded a 125gr Gold Dot in .357 Sig. But with Alliant's data, it hit 1400fps from a 4" barrel with very respectable accuracy and (I think) single digit Standard Deviation. I'd assume it would work very well for the loads you're interested in.

 

[Walkalong]

Walkalong and a few others posted

For the record, I have never tried it, @LiveLife is a fan.

 

[AJC1]

For the record, I have never tried it, @LiveLife is a fan.

Well one of the guys that are smarter than me said it

 

[TfflHndn]

Promo is Red Dot without the color flakes, and cheaper. Use the same weight, not volume, since it has a slightly different density without the color flakes. I use a lot of Red Dot and Promo in shot shells and .45 auto.

 

[Charlie98]

I actually have some 9mm test loads loaded up with BE-86 for this weekend. I’ll be curious if you can get BE-86 to push a 124grn bullet that fast. My first test loads with a 124grn bullet hit a velocity threshold in my 3.6” Kahr barrel, but hit my 1050fps goal. I’m going to borrow a Taurus with a 5” barrel to see if I can get additional velocity out of it, or if it was just a fluke.

 

[chrisf8657]

Yeah I am using Blue Dot at Max Load from the Speer Manual to achieve that velocity, and it is a whopper of a flash.
I noticed the BE86 lists a 6 inch for the 38 +P for a 125g, and it's only 1075 for a 158g in 357 Mag?