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As of mid-night September 30th all Floridians that own bump stocks or all other accessories that accelerate the rate of fire became felons.
And 18 to 21 year olds can no longer purchase long guns from an FFL.
All this in the GunShine State.
 
At an Academy store, a father was wanting to buy a Marlin 60 for his son (who was there all excited). Since the dad didn't have a hunter's ed card or a CCW, the clerk said he had to wait 3 days. Since when do rifles have a 3 day period?
 
At an Academy store, a father was wanting to buy a Marlin 60 for his son (who was there all excited). Since the dad didn't have a hunter's ed card or a CCW, the clerk said he had to wait 3 days. Since when do rifles have a 3 day period?

There might be more details for that father than what you provided, but it sounds more like a store based delay rather than a waiting period. It's not the law, but stores can make policies, including delays, to ensure that every sale they make is by the book.
When there's a NICs issue or backlog, there can be a delay, and some stores just have an arbitrary delay period time (i.e. over the next 3 days, we'll get this sorted out, so come back then and you'll be good to go).

A few years ago, I had to wait 2 days for a rifle from Dick's because the NICS system was having issues. I don't know how long it actually took them to get my approval, but they had me wait those 2 days before picking it up. It wasn't a big deal.
 
George P writes:

Since the dad didn't have a hunter's ed card or a CCW, the clerk said he had to wait 3 days. Since when do rifles have a 3 day period?

In what county did this take place? I bought a shotgun a few years ago in Palm Beach County (not my home county) and was told if I had not had a CWFL, I would have had to wait, and that it was a "county thing." The state statute does indeed give individual counties the right to impose such waiting periods, though they would be waived for CWFL-holders and anyone trading a firearm toward the one being purchased.
 
Addendum to my post above...

A mandatory waiting period was indeed added to Florida's latest round of "gun controls", enacted after Parkland. The bump-stock ban portion of the law didn't go into effect until today, but the rest of it became effective when it was signed. It makes the waiting-period portion of the law now read as follows:



>>>790.0655 Purchase and delivery of firearms; mandatory waiting period; exceptions; penalties.—
(1)(a) A mandatory waiting period is imposed between the purchase and delivery of a firearm. The mandatory waiting period is 3 days, excluding weekends and legal holidays, or expires upon the completion of the records checks required under s. 790.065, whichever occurs later. “Purchase” means the transfer of money or other valuable consideration to the retailer. “Retailer” means and includes a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer engaged in the business of making firearm sales at retail or for distribution, or use, or consumption, or storage to be used or consumed in this state, as defined in s. 212.02(13).
(b) Records of firearm sales must be available for inspection by any law enforcement agency, as defined in s. 934.02, during normal business hours.
(2) The waiting period does not apply in the following circumstances:
(a) When a firearm is being purchased by a holder of a concealed weapons permit as defined in s. 790.06.
(b) To a trade-in of another firearm.
(c) To the purchase of a rifle or shotgun, upon a person’s successfully completing a minimum of a 16-hour hunter safety course and possessing a hunter safety certification card issued under s.379.3581. A person who is exempt from the hunter safety course requirements under s. 379.3581and holds a valid Florida hunting license is exempt from the mandatory waiting period under this section for the purchase of a rifle or shotgun.<<<
 
There might be more details for that father than what you provided, but it sounds more like a store based delay rather than a waiting period. It's not the law, but stores can make policies, including delays, to ensure that every sale they make is by the book.
When there's a NICs issue or backlog, there can be a delay, and some stores just have an arbitrary delay period time (i.e. over the next 3 days, we'll get this sorted out, so come back then and you'll be good to go).

A few years ago, I had to wait 2 days for a rifle from Dick's because the NICS system was having issues. I don't know how long it actually took them to get my approval, but they had me wait those 2 days before picking it up. It wasn't a big deal.
This clerk was saying it was a brand new law that just took effect. I dunno, because I have my CCW, I picked up a pistol ordered in to a local LGS and was OTD in 5 minutes

Added - just saw Med Wheeler's post. Guess it pays to get that CWFL.
 
Addendum to my post above...

A mandatory waiting period was indeed added to Florida's latest round of "gun controls", enacted after Parkland. The bump-stock ban portion of the law didn't go into effect until today, but the rest of it became effective when it was signed. It makes the waiting-period portion of the law now read as follows:



>>>790.0655 Purchase and delivery of firearms; mandatory waiting period; exceptions; penalties.—
(1)(a) A mandatory waiting period is imposed between the purchase and delivery of a firearm. The mandatory waiting period is 3 days, excluding weekends and legal holidays, or expires upon the completion of the records checks required under s. 790.065, whichever occurs later. “Purchase” means the transfer of money or other valuable consideration to the retailer. “Retailer” means and includes a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer engaged in the business of making firearm sales at retail or for distribution, or use, or consumption, or storage to be used or consumed in this state, as defined in s. 212.02(13).
(b) Records of firearm sales must be available for inspection by any law enforcement agency, as defined in s. 934.02, during normal business hours.
(2) The waiting period does not apply in the following circumstances:
(a) When a firearm is being purchased by a holder of a concealed weapons permit as defined in s. 790.06.
(b) To a trade-in of another firearm.
(c) To the purchase of a rifle or shotgun, upon a person’s successfully completing a minimum of a 16-hour hunter safety course and possessing a hunter safety certification card issued under s.379.3581. A person who is exempt from the hunter safety course requirements under s. 379.3581and holds a valid Florida hunting license is exempt from the mandatory waiting period under this section for the purchase of a rifle or shotgun.<<<


So, it looks like, had th4 dad simply purchased a hunting license, he could have bought the rifle and headed OTD with his for some fun shooting that afternoon......
 
@MedWheeler

Thanks for finding that.
In all the discussions over bump stocks & 18 vs 21, that new waiting period kind of went under the radar without a lot of mention.

Good to know it's an actual statue and not some arbitrary store policy after all.
 
Unfortunately we are following Virginia right down the drain.
It appears that Florida has gone further down the path of gun control than has Virginia, so it's the other way around. I'm not going to crow, though, because the next legislative election is in 2019 and the antigunners may well get a majority.
 
It appears that Florida has gone further down the path of gun control than has Virginia, so it's the other way around. I'm not going to crow, though, because the next legislative election is in 2019 and the antigunners may well get a majority.

I'm from Virginia please don't crow old man Bryd lived in my town.
 
It isn't the non-city folks from NY, NJ, MA, IL, IN, RI, CT etc. - all those folks hunt/fish/play golf. It is the liberal big city ones that are turning FL purple. Since politics is verboten here, I'll stop at that.

Its the same everywhere the city's take over and they decide who is in power. Before 1964 in Virginia Mr. Bryd would would build roads in rural area's and get the rural people's vote. Then one day the city's got bigger and they didn't need the rural people's vote anymore we didn't matter.
 
According to Marion Hammer there was a constitutional amendment in Florida a few years back that gave the counties back the option of having a waiting period of up to five days.

She does not know at this time what counties have opted for a wait or how long in those counties that do.

Like myself she was appalled that the new law in effect today got through the legislature with so little public debate.

One of the things that Florida's CWL law did was make gun laws, including waits totally the business of the legislature and the waits in the Tampa, Miami and Gainesville area were done away with..... so the antis quietly slipped it in among the multitudinous state constitutional amendments we have at any excuse for an election and got them back that way.

Folks it is like high school student government gone wild only it actually has meaning and messes up folks lives.

The civil rights case on the whole moving the total firearms age to 21 is before a judge,,,,but that does not mean it will be moving anytime soon.

Remember that Florida has always been a leader in our 2nd Am fight.....and then came this year.

Folks IT CAN HAPPEN WHERE YOU ARE JUST THAT FAST!

-kBob
 
kBob is exactly right. We in WA are facing the most daunting gun control scheme on the fall election ballot: I-1639. Brought to us by a handful of gun hating Seattle billionaires. Every semi-auto rifle will be defined as an assault weapon. There's plenty of information on the web about this, I won't bother anyone with the details. If this thing passes, becomes law and survives the challenges, I may consider moving. FL isn't looking much better right now.
 
kBob is exactly right. We in WA are facing the most daunting gun control scheme on the fall election ballot: I-1639. Brought to us by a handful of gun hating Seattle billionaires. Every semi-auto rifle will be defined as an assault weapon. There's plenty of information on the web about this, I won't bother anyone with the details. If this thing passes, becomes law and survives the challenges, I may consider moving. FL isn't looking much better right now.
We've still got some space in AZ. Be glad to have you.
 
The last bill's that passed, Scott signed because he was told by a Miami billionaire to sign it.
 
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