FN PS90--whos got one and likes it?

[chuck plissken]

Im interested in one. Not a fan of buying a carbine in a odd caliber cause i got to many odd calibers already. BUT....I think it fits me and what im after.

what do you like or dislike about it? tell me is it worth getting over the typical "black rifle"? I've owned/built 4 ar15's. They come and go to me,i'd like a different unique gun this time around.

 

[OARNGESI]

Isn't there a model in 223

 

[Cal-gun Fan]

I think you're thinking of the FS2000.

 

[7.62x51NATO]

Magazines are very expensive for the PS90, around 60$ if I do believe. Ammo is also quite expensive, though, reloading is a possibility. What are your intended uses for the gun? I've shot one a couple times. Low-recoil, and accurate for what it is, just not worth the hefty price tag IMO. However, it could fill your needs perfectly. As far as if it is worth it over a Black Rifle, that depends. Unfortunately it doesn't seem you are a fan of the AR platform in which you can just buy a 5.7x28 upper that takes PS90 magazines if you want and probably save some money.

 

[chuck plissken]

I do like the AR,just not a favorite. I like the price of .223/5.56 by far and the price of mags yes.

I want a high capacity,short carbine like this. You can get 50rd mags for it which is nice and its out of the way. I know Surefire makes a 60rd ar mag now and you can get the Beta 100rd mags for AR's. But I want something small and compact yet light recoil. This seems to fit my bill.

I would like to have this along with my 12ga for a home security gun. I realize using a tactical type weapon in home defense can "look" bad to the jury... that doesn't matter to me personally,i just want to survive in my own home no matter what it takes. Im don't wanna go down in my own home because i wasn't prepared for an intruder/invader.

 

[chuck plissken]

7.62--i have an ar-15 complete lower and i've seen these. I still like the idea of the PS being really short hehe. im not a big guy 5'9 175pds so I'd like to handle a PS first to see if its what i want. Heck..it might be to tiny i might hate it?

 

[Snowdog]

My P90 is signed by Col. Jack O'Neill... but it only does 1D4 damage, +2 against jaffa....

Ok, I'm actually a loser who doesn't have a P90. From my understanding, they are (in their original configuration at least) wonderful PDWs. I'm not completely sold on the PS90 as the compact nature and select fire of the P90 add to its charm.

That said, I would probably have a PS90 by now if they weren't priced in the stratosphere.

 

[gunnysmith]

I have two PS 90's, mags are about $28.00 each, Ammo is $19.95 for 50 rnd boxes, all purchased locally.
It's compact, and carries 50 rnds in the mag.
It's accurate 1 1/4 at a 100 yds with the right sights.
Reliable to a fault.
I bought 4000 rnds total and four mags/gun for a total of eight.
I pick up extra mags when the price drops during sales.
15 total mags now.

 

[ZombieHorde]

I want one, only thing that is keeping me from buying one is cost of ammo. Might have to start reloading for it though. Would be fun!

 

[Pseudodeus]

A fantastic gun

The fn ps90 is a great gun. It's a ton of fun to shoot. I picked it up because I liked the idea of a light, compact carbine with a high capacity. Loaded with a full mag it sits around 7 lbs. I am a big fan. That being said, it's expensive both to purchase and shoot, but you probably already knew that. If you have the cash, you won't be dissapointed.

 

[ClickClickD'oh]

Magazines are very expensive for the PS90, around 60$ if I do believe.

I pay 23.99 for them

Ammo is also quite expensive..

It's cheaper than a box of .45 range ammo.

 

[JustinJ]

I think they are actually a great HD weapon but unfortunately the ammo available to civilians is not as hot as it could be. If i didn't have a supressed MSAR i'd seriously think about one of these as the noise and flash are much lower and even though the 5.56 is a more effective round one can put multiple shots on target faster with a P90.

I've heard they are very difficult to reload for or at least to do so safely.

 

[HGUNHNTR]

Great little guns, ammo isn't that expensive at all. It's loaded with a vmax, and still as cheap as shooting 45 or 10mm ball. The thing begs to be sbr'd though I haven't done it.
Being expensive or not is all relative. To me a $60 mag that will probably give me 20 years of service is cheap, a $60 bottle of scotch that will last a couple weeks is more "expensive" to me, but an expense I'm happy to afford anyway. Get one, they're fun above all else.

 

[briansmithwins]

I talked to a local cop that had one and a matching FiveSeven. Apparently for anti-goon work they are pretty nice, in full auto, if you empty 1/2 a mag into the bad guy. The guys he trained with weren't too impressed by even the restricted ammo's terminal ballistics.

He (the local cop) thought he was going to actually need to shoot someone with his FiveSeven pistol. He was horrified that all he was armed with was a 'glorified .22 magnum'. He doesn't have the FiveSeven anymore.

I'd be tempted to get one just for gun games stuff, but I already have this:



32 round mags only, but the ammo is cheap.

BSW

 

[G|0cKbYtE]

He (the local cop) thought he was going to actually need to shoot someone with his FiveSeven pistol. He was horrified that all he was armed with was a 'glorified .22 magnum'. He doesn't have the FiveSeven anymore.

.22 mag if he's lucky.. some would compare the 5.7x28mm round to .22 long rifle.

In a pistol-to-pistol comparison, with 40-grain bullets, the 5.7x28mm EA loads achieve a muzzle velocity roughly 700 ft/s faster than the .22 Magnum.

When 30-grain bullets are compared pistol-to-pistol, the 5.7x28mm EA loads achieve a muzzle velocity roughly 1000 ft/s faster than the .22 Magnum.

In a pistol-to-pistol comparison, the 5.7x28mm EA loads produce about three times the muzzle energy of the .22 Magnum.

http://www.gunblast.com/KelTec-PMR30-2.htm
http://www.gunblast.com/FN-FiveseveN.htm


Out of the PS90, depending on the grain of .224 projectile used, we are talking about a velocity range of 3,000-3,400 fps, and energy range of 670-700 ft-lbs with either fragmenting, expanding, or tumbling rounds. Of course all will penetrate armor and some rolled steel.

 

[ClickClickD'oh]

.22 mag if he's lucky.. some would compare the 5.7x28mm round to .22 long rifle.

...Whatever, it's more like a .22 Short.

 

[rcmodel]

Isn't there a model in 223

NO, the FS90 is a straight blow-back action and cannot handle the pressure of 5.56/.223.

Reloading is a possibility but is frought with problems.

Factory ammo is coated with some sort of anti-friction fairy dust to allow extracton, and if you clean cases for reloading, it removes it.

Also, the blow-back action allows a great deal of case stretch, in which the case shoulder is blown forward as much as .050" each firing.
So case life is limited.

rc

 

[Girodin]

I have one and like it for what it is. It is superbly reliable and more accurate than most shooters could make use of from field positions. I have 5.56 or larger weapons when that is what is called for. I think the PS90 is better compared to pistol caliber carbines than 5.56 rifles.

I think they are actually a great HD weapon but unfortunately the ammo available to civilians is not as hot as it could be.

I've not used it but if the EA cartridges are getting anything close to the numbers they claim it is loaded SIGNIFICANTLY hotter than the FN factory ammo (like nearly an extra 1000 FPS).

even though the 5.56 is a more effective round one can put multiple shots on target faster with a P90.

With a P90 I'm sure they could with a PS90 I'm not as sure. I'll have to get out the shot timer and do some testing when I have time.

I'd really like to SBR mine but I'm not totally sold on any of the ways I see people doing it.

I think people complaining of expensive mags and ammo are not au courrent concerning what things cost these days. Mags can be found for $25 online ammo (factory FN which is high quality ammo) is approximately $24 for a box of 50. Compare that to Eagle/remingting/etc 45 ACP FMJ which is roughly $23 a box of fifty or lake city 5.56 FMJ which is about $25 for only 40 rounds.

 

[gunnysmith]

My guess is that the majority of those who dislike the weapon and the round, have never fired or owned one.
BTW everything on the internet is true.

 

[marksman13]

I think I'll probably own one in the next couple of years. I would own one now if they weren't so expensive. With FN's new Law Enforcement pricing they are cheaper than many AR15s for police. I can justify $850. I can not justify $1600.00.

 

[CSestp]

Are there short SBR versions of this for sale here, or does that fall under some import law?

Never mind found some.

 

[marktx]

......I've not used it but if the EA cartridges are getting anything close to the numbers they claim it is loaded SIGNIFICANTLY hotter than the FN factory ammo (like nearly an extra 1000 FPS).......

There are enough well documented stories of people having significant problems with EA ammo that I would steer well clear of it.

You wouldn't shoot proof loads through an AR-15 that were 1000 fps faster than normal ammo because it risks damage to the gun and your safety.

 

[B!ngo]

As a left-hander, I studied the fiveseven round for months, and almost bought a PS90 and a FiveSever. But as a Californian, I came to realized that I'd have to put some goofy barrel extension on the PS90, limit the 50 round magazine to 10 rounds, and of course, the ever-popular bullet-button. Also, I couldn't justify keeping the pair, as well as a number of H&K P7's and USP's.
So, even though it's not an ambi, I bought an AT-94 to share the 9x19 with the P7's/USP's and have another nice carbine.
Not quite as interesting or controversial as the PS-90, but a nice gun. Still might get one someday.
BTW, I haven't seen $19.00 pricing for 50 rounds in a while. But I agree that those prices should not be a show-stopper. I've got to call some psychic hotline to get over it.
B

 

[Girodin]

That is part of why I have not used it. If it is truly getting 1000 FPS more than factory ammo it makes me wonder how good it can be for the gun to shoot it. If I need a 40 grain bullet to get up near 3000 FPS I have rifles in 5.56 or 22-250 if I need even more velocity.

 

[G|0cKbYtE]

There are enough well documented stories of people having significant problems with EA ammo that I would steer well clear of it.

You wouldn't shoot proof loads through an AR-15 that were 1000 fps faster than normal ammo because it risks damage to the gun and your safety.

I'm not aware of any "well documented stories of people having significant problems with EA ammo". I do know they had a problem employee many years ago who is now long gone. Since that employee was fired, as far as I know, EA's reputation has been sterling. I carry their ammunition with pride and confidence.