FN Scar 17S, Advice

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I'm strongly considering one. I have an opportunity to get one for $2500. BNIB, one magazine.

I don't have a 308 and I'd like to get one. What are your thoughts on one for home defense? I plan to use this at the range, mainly, though. What is the availability of magazines? How reliable are these?
 
Great gun. I cannot afford one of those, so I have an AR10.
For home defense, I handloaded some 'low power' loads and keep
those nearby at night.
 
I have shot the military version and it is very accurate, easy to maintain and with the monolithic rail up top you will have no problem mounting scopes.
It is well balanced and lighter compared to other 7.62mm rifles.
$2500 is the lowest price I ever heard of one. I wish FH would drop the price lower than $2000 then I might buy.
I don't think you will be disappointed with it.
 
I've seen FN magazines from $50 to $70 each. I don't think the PMag will work in .308 SCAR.

I've put about 50 rounds through one at an LE demo. Good ergonomics, recoil was relatively mild and was easy to shoot.

I think the 5.56 SCAR would be a better choice for home defense or to play with at the range.
 
These guns kick all sorts of major ass. I bought one awhile back, and it quickly became my favorite rifle. :)

I did a write up on here months ago, could probably find it with the search.

The largest downside I found was the rifle is somewhat unfriendly to left handed shooters (I swing both ways when I shoot - when I shoot left handed, brass clips my neck, burns me.. very annoying). Aside from burning brass, the adjustable stock also has a serious "pinch point" for left handed shooters - bad enough it leaves bruises on your face, quite painful.

Also due to the build of the muzzle break, somewhat unfriendly to anyone immediately to your right or left on the range (but not as much as say, a Barrett M95..).

Otherwise, very accurate, very reliable, EXTREMELY clean shooting rifle.
 
I was pretty gooey about them until I actually fired one. Now, I'm glad I have an AR-10.

Ergo's are so-so, the gun is nose-heavy (and weighs just as much as my Armalite AR-10A2C). Recoil impulse was sharper than most other 7.62mm rifles, and the reciproacting charging handle is idiotic. I can't really comment on accuracy, as the owner of the rifle hadn't zeroed his optic and we weren't shooting paper anyway.

The gun ran fine, but so do a lot of other 7.62mm rifles that cost half as much. Personally, I'd pass on it.
 
For home defense, I handloaded some 'low power' loads and keep those nearby at night.

If they are loaded heavy enough to reliably cycle the action i wouldn't want to fire one indoors.

Get it, if you want it for HD it can be loaded with 110-125's and you can probably find some factory loaded..

Fire one of those at night indoors then let us know how it went when you regain your sight, hearing and turn off the smoke alarms. Extra points if out of a 16" barrel.
 
It'll be loud, but then, so will any rifle, or any firearm without a suppressor. You have to be alive to be deaf.

A single 155 gr Hornady TAP round does on the order of 70% of the typical tissue damage and wound cavitation of a round of 12 gauge 00 buck shot, with penetration in line with what you'd want for home defense. And you have 20 of them instantly available in a magazine--that's a lot of firepower you can bring to bear on a group of hooligans in your living room.

For $2400, I'd leap on it.

I know ARs are as American as apple pie, but I am sooooo tired of hearing about and seeing them every where I go. I for one am completely happy not owning an AR and wish we could have even just one thread here without someone suggesting one.
 
It's one of the cleanest running guns I own. Got 600 rounds of surplus junk through mine, no malfunctions, and no fouling. Only scrubbed the barrel; rest of the firearm is clean. I mean, run your finger across the bolt face and get next to no gunk, clean.

Reciprocating handle could be an issue, if you don't hold it right it'll tear your thumb off (or make you wish it was). I put a pistol grip on the lower rail in front as a safety precaution - keeps my hand clear if I forget.

As far as accuracy? With those (rather spectacular) iron sights at 300 yards I put all 20 rounds in a 4" circle with surplus ammo. Rifle is capable of better with match ammo and a scope, I'm sure. Just don't see the need - if I can hit that well at 300 with iron sights, what's the point in ruining my reaction time on the rifle with a scope. :)

Unrelated, but I had a ND with an AK-47 indoors once. Rifle was pointed up, buttstock on the counter, muzzle 6" in front of my face. Rifle was leaned up against the counter with the top facing me (magazine away). Saw a loaded magazine next to it on the counter, jacked the round out of the chamber to clear it and dropped the hammer. Didn't see the loaded mag IN the gun.

Was decidedly NOT pleasant. Didn't even HEAR the gun go off. Everything just went quiet, white flash that staggered me a little. Lost my hearing for a good 5 minutes. Vision was teared up for about the same amount of time. Friend came in to the kitchen from the living room, and I could see his lips mouthing the words "ARE YOU OK" but I couldn't hear anything.

With an AK doing THAT.. I'm sure that shooting a 308 indoors will be ugly. But chances are you won't hear much of anything for awhile after the first shot, and it won't bother you until later. :)


FYI - I *have* shot my SCAR indoors - our range has a heated/cooled building with benches and window shutters you can open. Even WITH hearing protection (-25db muffs) it is unpleasant. Learned to make sure the muzzle is OUT of the window completely before firing.
 
Yeah. My great uncle showed me why you should never combine alcohol and firearms. He and my grandpa were polishing off a bottle of Wild Turkey one 4th of July. My brother and I asked to shoot his Mini-14. When we brought it back to him a couple minutes later and said we couldn't get the bolt open, he laughed at us. After a couple minutes of inebriated cussing, yanking, and stomping on the bolt to get it open, he retired to the small bedroom of his trailer. With him sitting on the end of his bed and my brother and I by either side of him, he sits pondering his predicament. The rifle is craddled over his lap with the muzzle facing down and to his left, towards my feet, with me leaning over to try see the receiver as he yanks on the charging handle. Then, with no perceivable warning or attention given to his muzzle, he shrugs his shoulders, say "F-it," flicks off the safety, and BANG! The concussion coming off the compensator located a foot below my left ear felt like I had been slapped alongside the head. I had a headache for a day and a half, and when I could finally hear out of that ear again, all I heard for days was ringing. And that is to say nothing of the .22 caliber hole he put a half of an inch from my big toe. A few of the lessons learned that day:

1.) Don't mix guns and alcohol/mind-altering substances!
2.) Guns are loud. Guns in enclosed spaces are louder!
3.) Clean guns before you put them in long-term storage.
4.) 55,000 PSI will get pretty much anything unstuck.
5.) And for the love of Christ don't mix guns and alcohol/mind-altering substances!
 
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