For Gun Shop Owners, It’s No Longer Hip to Be ‘Square’

[oneounceload]

http://dailysignal.com/2014/09/25/gun-shop-owners-longer-hip-square/

Last summer, around the same time the U.S. Department of Justice’s Operation Choke Point began pressuring banks to drop customers who buy or sell firearms, tobacco and other goods considered “not acceptable” by the Obama administration, Square quietly changed its terms of agreement.


In an alert regarding a change of terms, Square notified vendors:

…you will not accept payments in connection with the following businesses or business activities: …sales of (i) firearms, firearm parts or hardware, and ammunition; or (ii) weapons and other devices designed to cause physical injury.

One of my gun clubs uses the Square; in fact I was one of the folks who pressured him into taking credit cards for the purchase of ammo, reloading supplies and clay targets. What a bunch of you-know-what

 

[SilentStalker]

Yeah, I have been highly interested in this for awhile. I could see them trying to force credit companies and the like to not loan money or provide transactions of any sort. However, when it comes to the order of pushing banks to drop customers who buy or sell firearms or related products is ridiculous. When should a bank be allowed to tell you how to spend your money. Everyone that has been effected by this and has any way to prove it should file a suit. If companies using my money to make money can tell me how I should spend my own money then we are in trouble as a society.

 

[NOMI WASP]

I wrote a post about the industry I work in and how choke point affected merchants I've seen. Sad but their are other processors like "Payment Alliance" They are the preferred processor of the NRA.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=757350

 

[TarDevil]

Square Reader bows to Obama

No more fire arms related sales.
http://dailysignal.com/2014/09/25/gun-shop-owners-longer-hip-square/

…you will not accept payments in connection with the following businesses or business activities: …sales of (i) firearms, firearm parts or hardware, and ammunition; or (ii) weapons and other devices designed to cause physical injury.

So help me out here...what is the plan of action against Obama'a "Choke Point" operation?

 

[ErikO]

Square has been anti-gun for close to a year now. Try Flint.com.

 

[lxd55]

plan? it is all about control. schools and indoctrination. healthcare system. banking and the threat of more regulation and no funding. this is also how they intimidate states.

 

[LemmyCaution]

I can't see any evidence in the article of a connection between Choke Point and Square's Terms of Service Agreement, other than the articles headline asserting such without backing it up.

So I'm going to dismiss this thread as more hysterical fear mongering of the sort that does nothing to advance the RKBA.

 

[chemist308]

I think this is a good time for ALL gun shop owners to inquire about service with square reader and disclose their annual revenue. When square reader has to turn down 100M+ in revenue they might change their tune.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

I Started a thread on this yesterday. In the course of writing it, I returned to the "article" for a clarification which caused me to re-read it two more times.

While I'm not even going to begin to defend "Square" - I saw an item filled with innuendo and subjective connections.

It's almost like a competing organization was engaged in industrial media sabotage.

Square still has their previously pointed out bias against firearms but I have yet to feel the effects as we have conducted business with one for some time now. Guess I'll get out the newest revised UA that I can find to get real facts.

 

[NOMI WASP]

FYI: Square is owner by American Express

 

[dogtown tom]

This is almost as less newsworthy as the thread on "Race & Ethnicity" question on the 4473.

Square stopped accepting firearms related transactions a year and a half ago.

 

[ourichie]

When are they going to ban alcohol sales via square? alcohol kills more people than guns and the two closest liquor stores to me use square for CC transactions

 

[Ohen Cepel]

As others have said, Square has been anti-2A for a loong time.

I did have a free one sent to me though so I could pitch it in the trash
They just sent me an offer to send me a newer one........

 

[zorro45]

If I were in the business of selling firearms (which I am not) I would just have to set up a separate account such as Zorro45 Amalgamated Services for such transactions so they could not readily ascertain what exactly I was selling, just because.....

 

[medalguy]

I use PayAnywhere at gun shows all the time. Same processing fee as Square, and they have no problems accepting firearms/ammo/parts transactions. Good folks, never experienced any problems of any kind.

 

[hso]

Square was prohibiting firearms sales before this. Look for threads on their practice here at THR May of last year.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=711556&highlight=Square+credit+card