For you LemiShine users, what exact product do you use?

[Rule3]

And how much do you use per 1 gal of water?

There is so much interest and discussion of this product, but not much on the exact product or how much. The brand as several offerings.

As with the other threads this is just a poll for the above. Not a discussion of how or why you clean brass.

https://www.lemishine.com/dishwashing/

 

[Wreck-n-Crew]

I recommend 1/4 teaspoon per gallon. No more. And.mind the amount of time you tumble because Lemi-Shine uses citric acid whick is a good brass cleaner but prolonged exposure can turn brass dull. Even green lile mine did when i forget it and it was left running for over 3 hours.

I have since switched to ArmorAll wash & wax. While still using the SS pins.

 

[bihj]

Other. Citric acid is the active ingredient, found in the canning section of your grocery. 1/4 tsp per gal of water. This will need to be adjusted according to the hardness of the water you are using.

 

[HDMontana]

I use about a 1/4 teaspoon of lemishine booster with armor all wash and wax as detergent.

 

[Termite I]

There are probably 100 different mixtures and ways people tumble brass. Not saying ones better than the other, just telling how I do it. I've tried the wash & wax with the Lemishine and it seemed to take longer to clean so I use Dawn & Lemishine powder to clean then after rinsing I soak the clean brass in a 5 gallon bucket of wash & wax diluted with water for about 5 minutes then triple rinse until there are no soap bubbles then I dry the brass. Just using the Dawn & Lemishine the brass would tarnish soon after cleaning. I don't think there is any hard set amount of Lemishine. I believe it depends on the water you are using, whether it has a lot of minerals like iron or calcium in it. I worked up to the amount of Lemishine I use until the brass came out shiny. If you use too much it will turn the brass a pink color.
I built a custom tumbler and have three sizes of drums so the amount changes with size of drum. I use a full 2.8 cc Lee dipper for the large drum ( 5 gallon ), 2/3 for the
3 gallon and 1/2 for the one gallon drum. Sizes of the drums are estimates. I can put 1000 223 cases in the large drum with 40-50 lbs of SS chips. I like to use as much media as possible and still have room for at least 1 1/2 gallons of water in the large drum. Here are some pictures of my setup.

 

[Rule3]

Other. Citric acid is the active ingredient, found in the canning section of your grocery. 1/4 tsp per gal of water. This will need to be adjusted according to the hardness of the water you are using.

Citric acid is A ingredient, it does not mean it is the ACTIVE ingredient.
Many DW detergents have citric acid

But this is not the question.

 

[jmorris]

I use lemishine “original” 1/4 t and 2 T dawn per gallon of water.

 

[CerberusRagnar]

I just used Lemi Shine Dish Detergent Booster 12oz from Walmart on my last tumble. I used one 45ACP casing full of it and a squirt of dawn dish soap and they came out nice and shiny.

 

[glc24]

1/4 teaspoon Booster here too!

 

[HDMontana]

Termite, that's a nice setup.

 

[Demi-human]

Citric acid is A ingredient, it does not mean it is the ACTIVE ingredient.

Perhaps. Yet in this case, it is. It works exactly as Pure Citric Acid does. (My first citric acid was purloined from the baking cabinet. Until I was caught!)
Unless you feel it is the Calcium Silicate anti-caking agent that does the surface oxide pacification.
Yes some detergents have Ph balancers in them. Adding an amount greater than necessary to balance hard water will result in a nice shiny case that resists oxidation, more so when treated with wax as well.

But this is not the question.

Dang. Well, ya got me there...
Carry on!

Oh, I use the Lemi-shine Booster.

Welcome to the Forum @CerberusRagnar. I, too, use a Fourty Five Auto case per gallon of hot water. As well as which ever Automotive Wash and Wax is on sale. I may use three or four brass cases of that.

Very nice tumbler, @Termite I!

 

[D Rock]

I use 1/4 t of Booster too. Booster is all Wally World had. Ingredients are "natural citrus extracts and citrus oils".

Dave

 

[CerberusRagnar]

Welcome to the Forum @CerberusRagnar. I, too, use a Fourty Five Auto case per gallon of hot water. As well as which ever Automotive Wash and Wax is on sale. I may use three or four brass cases of that.

Thank you very much. I am debating the car wax. I would like to have something to prevent corrosion but I tumble after decapping which is before everything else for me. Do you have any problems with your dies dirtying up due to the wax?

 

[Rule3]

Perhaps. Yet in this case, it is. It works exactly as Pure Citric Acid does. (My first citric acid was purloined from the baking cabinet. Until I was caught!)
Unless you feel it is the Calcium Silicate anti-caking agent that does the surface oxide pacification.
Yes some detergents have Ph balancers in them. Adding an amount greater than necessary to balance hard water will result in a nice shiny case that resists oxidation, more so when treated with wax as well.


Dang. Well, ya got me there...
Carry on!

Oh, I use the Lemi-shine Booster.

Welcome to the Forum @CerberusRagnar. I, too, use a Fourty Five Auto case per gallon of hot water. As well as which ever Automotive Wash and Wax is on sale. I may use three or four brass cases of that.

Very nice tumbler, @Termite I!

Do you have the actual MSDS with exact percentages or access to "proprietary ingredients" or perhaps you have a Mass Spectrometer?

I can read the ingredients, and have for years advised people to buy bulk citric acid from Duda, (not the Ball pickling citric acid)

But again the poll is a simple one.

 

[Termite I]

"Do you have any problems with your dies dirtying up due to the wax?"

I haven't noticed it building up on the dies. It's such a thin layer I can't tell it's there except my brass doesn't tarnish as it did before. Just a warning - don't count on there being enough wax on your cases to omit lubing before sizing.

 

[Demi-human]

...perhaps you have a Mass Spectrometer?

Yes. A Thermo Finnigan LTQ MS. Got a great financing plan from GenTech Scientific. Though the infusion sample introduction rate is a bit slow when compared to the Bruker UltrafleXtreme MALDI-TOF MS.

And yes. Citric acid and Calcium Silicate at eight hundredths of a percent, more or less.

Do you have any problems with your dies dirtying up due to the wax?

None at all. The film is so thin. I clean my dies sooner from the build up of brass filings on the crimp die than any filth in the sizer.

 

[kilizyrag]

Here is what I use. I don't measure the Zip-Wax and add about a teaspoon of LemiShine. As I recall my home brew tumbler holds 2 gallons.

 

[kilizyrag]

Here is how they come out after about 2.5 hours of tumbling. When I started I used Dawn dish soap but had problems with galling in the expander/powder die on my 550. The zip wax solved that problem.

 

[Walkalong]

Termite, that's a nice setup.

Amen, that's awesome. Y'all (THR posters) are so talented.

 

[Rule3]

Yes. A Thermo Finnigan LTQ MS. Got a great financing plan from GenTech Scientific. Though the infusion sample introduction rate is a bit slow when compared to the Bruker UltrafleXtreme MALDI-TOF MS.

And yes. Citric acid and Calcium Silicate at eight hundredths of a percent, more or less.



None at all. The film is so thin. I clean my dies sooner from the build up of brass filings on the crimp die than any filth in the sizer.

Please show the printed read out of the analysis.( and of course a picture of the unit itself)

 

[Johnnyd]

Other. Citric acid is the active ingredient, found in the canning section of your grocery. 1/4 tsp per gal of water. This will need to be adjusted according to the hardness of the water you are using.

+1

 

[cw308]

When I switched to wet tumbling after 30 years of dry , I follower the directions , Dawn & LemiShine , every ounce an awile my brass was coming out pinkish , what helped is I added the detergent and Lemi first to half filled with water and mixed then added brass and topped off with more water . Asked my wife why she didn't use Dawn she said Sun Detergent worked much better , she is right , now I stopped using LemiShine , only Sun Detergent . Brass looks better then brand new . Give Sun try and see for yourself . Hope I Helped .

Chris

 

[sevt_chevelle]

Citric acid from duda diesel and dawn, sometimes turtle wax car wash in place of the dawn.

 

[Termite I]

Here is what I use. I don't measure the Zip-Wax and add about a teaspoon of LemiShine. As I recall my home brew tumbler holds 2 gallons. View attachment 823978View attachment 823981

Very Nice! Looks like the ones Big Dawg on AR15 forum makes. That's where I got the info to build mine. I just tweaked it a bit

 

[kilizyrag]

Very Nice! Looks like the ones Big Dawg on AR15 forum makes. That's where I got the info to build mine. I just tweaked it a bit

I searched the internet and blatantly copied Big Dawg. Why re-event the wheel, said I.