Fox News: "Gun control not high on [Senate] to-do list"

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1:51 p.m. ET: Senate: Gun control not high on to-do list: Some advocates of gun control are using the VA Tech shooting incident to push for more action in Congress on the issue, but there is little appetite for this in the Senate (probably similar in the House). A number of Democrats told FOX today that it's premature to be talking about gun control. Still others said it would not happen, given the support for gun ownership, especially among the incoming freshman class, with senators like Jim Webb, D-VA, who carries a permitted, concealed weapon, and Jon Tester, D-MT. In addition, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-NV, is a gun rights advocate, as is the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-VT. Leahy is an avid hunter.
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What ever happened to Webb and the aide that carried the gun illegally? THe one who had the "unregistered ammo" ( :rolleyes: ) ?
 
In addition, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-NV, is a gun rights advocate
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I looked this up, believe it or not, YES. I don't like the man on other issues, but he's ok when it comes to guns.
 
"When there is a senseless gun rampage, and the shooter dies or is shot, there is no living person to put on trial; in all such instances, the left wing community places guns and gun ownership on trial in the shooters place" ---- Dr. Rick Masterson


in the comming weeks, you WILL SEE how prophetic that statement REALLY is.
 
Any article trying to sell you on the idea that Sen. Leahy supports gun owners is trying to sell you some powerful fertilizer. Hell, if you believe the press, John Kerry is an avid hunter.
 
There is an underhand motive here...

This is underhanded call to those in favor of gun control.

Step into their shoes for a second, when you hear "Gun control not high on "to do" list" what would be your first reaction, it would probably be some kind of outrage and a call to get organised.

The same way we heed the call and get organised, when we see what the .GOV is trying to do to us, just look at our own SB, HR posts.

FOX news just sent out a "call to arms" to those who wish to disarm us.
 
It sounds like the antigun party has finally gotten the big picture. If they wait until they have cemented the progressive victory in the '08 election, the task will be that much easier.

Meanwhile they have a strategy going that is perfectly designed to both appease their emotive base and the rational non-committed:

SCUBA Ted and McCarthy lead the verbal charge--they're in safe districts.

Feinstein and others propose, but are reluctant--no more "If I had one more vote, Mr. & Mrs. America, I'd have them ALL turned in."

And the newcomers hold their tongue.

A more perfect strategy for gaining control couldn't be designed.


Meanwhile, how does that agenda read? Interestingly enough a search on "2nd Amendment" at the Democratic Party site turns up NOTHING....

Who has the platform statements handy?
 
I know Reid is considered to be pro RKBA though does support some gun control, but Leahy? I also thought Leahy was basicaly a Kennedy from Vermont, and a strict anti RKBA.

Now gun control might be a moot point on the Federal level, but they will take the fight to the state and local level.
 
From recent threads about Senator Webb in this forum I'm confident that gun owners will either scare him away from supporting us or already have done so.

Never underestimate the ability of gun owners to fight tooth and nail against their own interests. We are a determined people and we stand ready to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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I just read an interesting blurb on the CNN Political Ticker:
Tuesday, April 17, 2007
Posted 4/17/2007 05:43:00 PM | Permalink
Will Virginia Tech tragedy elevate issue of gun-control?


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Is the Virginia Tech tragedy likely to put gun control on the political agenda? Don't bet on it. In recent years, gun control has been an issue most politicians prefer to stay away from.

The last significant gun control measures to make it through Congress were the Brady bill in 1993 and the assault weapons ban in 1994. Immediately after that, Democrats lost control of Congress. Then-President Clinton said the gun lobby had a lot to do with his party's defeat.

Democrats have been gun shy ever since. Then-Vice President Al Gore rarely talked about gun control in the 2000 presidential campaign. Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts, ran as a defender of the Second Amendment when he was the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004. Nevertheless, the National Rifle Association ran an ad accusing Kerry of ``running away from your record, just like Al Gore did.'' This year, Rudy Giuliani, a longtime supporter of gun control, says the matter should be left up to the states.

Polls show the public supports gun control. Why don't the politicians get with the people?

Three reasons:

1. Public support for stricter gun laws has been declining since the 1990s, according to the Galllup Poll. The latest figure shows 49 percent support for stricter laws in January 2007, less than a majority for the first time since at least 1990. The decline seems to be attributable to decreasing violent crime rates since 1994.

2. Gun owners vote the issue. Supporters of gun control usually don't. Politicians know they will pay a price at the polls if they vote for new gun laws, even if most voters agree with them.

3. After a shocking incident like the one at Virginia Tech, public anger over gun violence rises, but it's usually not sustained very long. Whereas gun owners remember every gun control vote as a threat to their rights.

-- CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider
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The author makes a couple of interesting points: we have political clout because we vote the issue while most anti-2A people don't, and we remember 2A infringements a lot longer than the general public remembers abberational tragedies like VT.
 
I like the last reason by CNN Analysist Bill Schneider..

By CNN Anaylist Bill Scneider:
3. After a shocking incident like the one at Virginia Tech, public anger over gun violence rises, but it's usually not sustained very long. Whereas gun owners remember every gun control vote as a threat to their rights.
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Hopefully the politicians wont forget this. We dont have a problem recalling their voting records.
 
as is the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-VT. Leahy is an avid hunter.

That last sentence is key. He may be a gun rights guy as it relates to: dun dun daaaaaaa; "HUNTING".

I don't know about Senator Leahy's past support or lack thereof for gun rights. I don't know whether he's a second amendment purist or a man who takes the position that the second amendment protects our right to hunt and have firearms which are suitable for hunting and sport shooting. If he's the latter, he's dangerous. He could be a shot gunner only. After all, a person who hunts lots of pheasants is an avid hunter, but may only support the rights to have a good field grade over/under scattergun. That's not what the second amendment is about, but I don't have to tell that to most of the folks around here.
 
I foresee possibly non-citizens losing the ability to buy firearms.
Since he didnt use an AR15, we are slightly safer.
 
I just got an email from GOA and this paragraph bears repeating here:

Conyers' counterpart in the Senate is Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT), whose GOA rating of "F" is well-deserved. Senate
Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada has also earned an F.
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I just received a letter soliciting funds for "Stop the NRA." (I am on the mailing list for a variety of anti-gun groups to see what they are up to.) I replied with the following email:

You ghouls disgust me, using this tragedy to further your own misguided political gains. You should be ashamed of yourself. And you are totally off base. Had Virginia Tech allowed law-abiding citizens to carry guns with which to defend themselves, the killer would likely have claimed only one or two victims before a legally armed citizen would have put an end to his reign of death. You’re political dogma is the real problem here, and not the NRA. How do you people sleep at night?
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I don't believe GWB would sign any gun control bills at this point. His favroable ratings, if you believe polls, hover around 35%. Thats basically as low as it can go. However if he supported a major gun control bill it can forseeably drop another 5% or so as he loses is most loyal base. That isn't something he would do.

That being said, in 2008 we may very well have the Democrats in control of the Congress and in the White House. If that happens then I imagine we could see something similar to the 1994 AWB.
 
I don't know which way CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider leans, I assume to the left on most issues, but I've always found his analyes based on facts. He's one of the better talking heads around.

Make it a rule of thumb: Never trust a politician until you see which way they voted, then make sure you never turn your back on them.:)
 
Reid voted against and was against renewing the 1994 AWB.

That puts him at odds with Boxer/Schumer/Feinstein cabal.

If they want to bring up gun control bills I got a lot of poison bills to vote on as well:

interstate handgun sales

repealing 922(o)

Overturning the parts ban recently enacted

Repealing the Sporting Purpose Clause

Deregulating 'silencers'

Overturning the DC Gun Bans

ect.
 
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