Frangible ammo questions

[usp9]

I've been eyeballing this new frangible ammo at one of my local stores. It's a copper jacketed, compressed graphite round by RBCD. The store owner claims it is devastating, even in flesh wounding situations, and billed it as a one round man stopper. It appears to be very high velocity, but I'm worried it has no penetration ability. I thought the purpose of this type of ammo was mainly for training, not actual defensive use. Any experience with this ammo?

 

[daysleeprx]

No experience myself, but this quote:

The store owner claims it is devastating, even in flesh wounding situations, and billed it as a one round man stopper.

is making me think that he's filled to the brim with bovine digested foodstuff.

 

[Hanzo581]

I thought frangible ammo only deformes when it strikes a hard surface? I would imagine it would do fine on flesh.

 

[XDRocks]

a better idea in defensive rounds...

You might want to check out Federal's new idea in self defense ammo. This has penetration and expandability.

https://www.ammoman.com/40_EP_DESC.htm

This looks like a vast improvement over frangible or traditional hollow points.

 

[BIGDADDYLONGSTROKE]

Shot placement is key, hell a 9mm right between the eyes could be a one round man stopper. Whatever you use shot place ment is most important (center mass) if possible.

 

[usp9]

Does anyone use it in their personal weapon as a defensive round? I usually carry Gold Dot or Cor Bon DPX. If frangible has any advantage I'll switch, but I can't find real info as to it's being used for any reason other than training.

 

[K-Romulus]

RBCD is a myth

At least, from what I have read on the InterWeb.

A lot of threads at AR15.com got shut down over this topic. The consensus seemed to be that RBCD was all hype, and the discussions would degenerate fast.

Regular frangible ammo does as you thought: for training in close quarters w/reduced chance of ricochets, or for training in enclosed spaces where lead vapors would be a problem.

Rodney at FrangibleBullets.com told me that there is at least one law enforcement agency using frangible duty ammo due to their mission of guarding sensitive facilities where ricochets would be bad news

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

XDrocks,

That ammo looks pretty promising.

 

[pcosmar]

I saw somewhere (not sure where) that it was designed as an aircraft safe round for Air Marshals. I could be wrong, but it makes sense.

 

[shield20]

The original Glazer Safety Slugs were indeed designed for Air-marshall/airplane type rolls. I avoid them for normal SD due to the typical lack of penetration, and also the ridiculously high cost is detremental for practice, reliability testing, etc.