Nosler has updated their web site and data is free.
http://www.nosler.com/load-data/
http://www.nosler.com/load-data/
. It's about time Nosler got with the competition.
The 2 sources you quoted are using different bullets and I'm guessing different seating depth. Usually, but not always when the charge weights are different like that so are the seating depths so before you get angry at anyone check everything first. (especially when it's GIVEN to you for free) Even if the OAL is the same how much space in the case being used by those 2 bullets could be different requiring a different charge weight to stay under SAAMI pressure limits.I checked out their new data for 45 ACP-specificaly 185 HP'S and find their data for Power Pistol a lot lower than Alliant's which I have been using. Alliant lists a max of 9.5 grains for a Speer Gold Dot.Nosler lists a max of 8.5 for their 185 HP.I guess my load of 9.0 grains of PP with Nosler is over maximum.I worked up to a max of 9 in my M & P.I guess I will have to re-evaluate my loads and cut back in the future.Other than a spectactular fireball the load seems OK.I am not one normally to go over max.:banghead:After examining the data in depth, I am convinced that some but not all is old data. My reason for this is some of the powders that are the same exact thing still have different data. W296/H110 & W231/HP38 are just 2 that I noticed. How can we really trust any of the data? I am just amazed that they are so far behind times with some of the data.Am I being overly critical?