About three years ago, I had a neighbor whose brother had an AR15 with a 60 round magazine installed and he said he couldn't get the magazine out and asked me if I could remove it for him and he would pay me, so I told him how to remove it using the bullet button but he said that he would rather pay me to remove it. I took it from his garage to mine, next door, and pushed the Magazine Release button and the magazine fell out on the work bench. I immediately took it back next door and gave him the rifle and then the 60 round magazine and he said how much and I said Twenty bucks and he gave me the money. Then I asked to see the magazine and the rifle and inserted the magazine into the rifle and gave it back to him and showed him where the bullet button was and he pushed it and out came the magazine. I felt so bad that I gave him the money back and told him that if he didn't know anything about the rifle he should give it to me or sell it, don't know what he did but he probably sold it. How dumb can some people be? The same neighbor brought me a S&W .38 special with a bullet between the cylinder and the barrel and couldn't get the cylinder to turn. I removed the lead bullet and removed the bullets of the other 5 cases and found out there was about two to three grains of powder, if that much in each of the home loads, someone didn't know what they were doing when the loaded these 38's. good thing the cylinder didn't turn and a good thing the bullet got stuck between the cylinder and the barrel and not a squib. I told him that he should never shoot or even attempt to shoot ammo that he knew nothing about and explained to him what could have happened it they were good reloads and had a squib. The gave me 50 bucks and thanked me for my advice. This time I took the 50 bucks and hoped he learned something.
FUNNY BUT TRUE!!
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troy fairweather
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Bet he went to college. Unfortunately I know people like this, tho there to cheap to offer money.
Once loaned a single shot 12 ga. to a friend. When I got it back the rear sight was cranked all the way to the left (windage adj. is on a thumbscrew), turns out he thought it was some kind of safety :smh:
Not gun related but I had a high school buddy whos car died on the side of the road. He pops the hood and sees that the oil dipstick isn't fully inserted so he pushes it back down and says 'that should do it'. Groan.
Never underestimate the power of stupid.
Not gun related but I had a high school buddy whos car died on the side of the road. He pops the hood and sees that the oil dipstick isn't fully inserted so he pushes it back down and says 'that should do it'. Groan.
Never underestimate the power of stupid.
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This should be a good one!
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I don’t find anything amusing about the OPs story. I actually find it sad.
No one pops out of the womb filled with knowledge. We either learn it ourselves or have a mentor or teacher educate us.
Instead of shaming the guy into getting rid of his new AR I would have taken some time to show him the basics of his rifle, in a non condescending way, and offered to spend some time at the range with him.
That would have been the “neighborly” thing to do
No one pops out of the womb filled with knowledge. We either learn it ourselves or have a mentor or teacher educate us.
Instead of shaming the guy into getting rid of his new AR I would have taken some time to show him the basics of his rifle, in a non condescending way, and offered to spend some time at the range with him.
That would have been the “neighborly” thing to do
Yes, exactly.
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No, but he is supposed to pop out of the public schools able to read.
Once upon a time, products of all sorts came with printed instructions.
Not necessarily any more, I bought a new computer printer and all it had was a cartoon startup sheet, I had to look it up on the website to learn what the scribbles meant.
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You’re preaching to the choir Jim.
I still stand by my opinion though. If a neighbor thinks enough of us to ask for help, the least we can do is provide it with a degree of humility and respect.
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I’m trying to figure out what you think is funny about this? And you are calling him stupid because he didn’t know? He didn’t know about the stupid Commi-fornia bullet button. So what! That is very telling of character.
Honestly, I look down on YOU for taking $20 from him in the first place! You didn’t have to take the AR to your garage. You could have simply showed him immediately..
I can’t stand people that charge others money for simple crap.
Honestly, I look down on YOU for taking $20 from him in the first place! You didn’t have to take the AR to your garage. You could have simply showed him immediately..
I can’t stand people that charge others money for simple crap.
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I can appreciate a healthy dose of stern warning to someone playing with danger who doesn’t take the time to educate themselves; particularly when offered that knowledge free of charge as was the case.
To go beyond to an insistent invitation to sit down and learn it would be best, but some people out there in the world grate me to no end and would not rate that level plea from me either. Having not been there it’s difficult to gauge what the OP was up against so what we can say is that the post is a teachable moment for all of us.
However you responded, I appreciate both perspectives and hope we are all granted enough patience to exert the effort for safety’s sake.
To go beyond to an insistent invitation to sit down and learn it would be best, but some people out there in the world grate me to no end and would not rate that level plea from me either. Having not been there it’s difficult to gauge what the OP was up against so what we can say is that the post is a teachable moment for all of us.
However you responded, I appreciate both perspectives and hope we are all granted enough patience to exert the effort for safety’s sake.
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This probably doesn't belong on this thread but then again, this thread has kind of already spread out a bit. When we're talking about "funny" stuff, this one is pretty good and I don't want to start some other thread... I am a Range Officer at a state-run, very nice range. A "client" was having obvious difficulties adjusting his scope on a .22 rimfire (swearing, cussing, muttering). When I looked at his rifle, the scope had been mounted 90 degrees counter-clockwise, with the windage turret at the 12 0'clock position and the elevation turret at the 9 o'clock position. I had never seen this particular problem before. 
armabill
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I have seen that 90 degree problem before and also the scope mounted backwards too.
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Now see… THOSE two are funny! It’s not laughing at the person for their ignorance, but rather at the the situation itself.
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After seeing almost anything you can imagine, I rarely laugh at the individual - we have people show up at our range with brand new firearms - not cleaned, not even looked at. Still in the Box. People that simply don't know they can even adjust a scope or red dot sight. Rarely are they even bore sighted if it's someone with a new scope. The other day I saw someone look straight into the muzzle of his loaded single action revolver; I have no idea why. Almost every day there's someone that doesn't know how to lock back the bolt on his AR. A guy entered a range building with an uncased AR, proceeded to sweep everyone on the firing line then before approaching a bench, he racked the bolt back... out popped a live cartridge. A public range is a dangerous place. Some of it you can laugh about and some of it makes your adrenaline peak.
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Back when my club was holding pre-hunting season sight in days, we saw a lot of strange stuff. We were able to enforce safe handling but ignorance is with you always.
The 90 deg scope installation* was there, but the real oddball was the 45 deg mount, X marks the spot.
What amused me was when we were working opening day, just how many hunters came by in the late morning. I figured they had been in the woods at daylight, missed their shot, and came to the range to find out what was the matter.
*My Remington 788 .30-30 pretty much demands that the scope be rotated 90 deg, else the ejected empties bounce off the windage knob back into the ejection port, tying up the gun. I was hunting for a new ejector before I realized what was going on.
The 90 deg scope installation* was there, but the real oddball was the 45 deg mount, X marks the spot.
What amused me was when we were working opening day, just how many hunters came by in the late morning. I figured they had been in the woods at daylight, missed their shot, and came to the range to find out what was the matter.
*My Remington 788 .30-30 pretty much demands that the scope be rotated 90 deg, else the ejected empties bounce off the windage knob back into the ejection port, tying up the gun. I was hunting for a new ejector before I realized what was going on.
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I had a friend come down to my personal range to dial in his Winchester 94 top eject with a side mount scope. He had it mounted 90 degrees out. I could not convince him that he was wrong. He had to experience the frustration/failure for himself. And he was a former Ranger instructor for many years.
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A Ranger Instructor? LOL, yeah. From my experience, it was many times those “on the job” who at times responded the worst.
Years ago I was an Instructor & worked for a Gun store/Indoor range as the Range manager. A gentleman had just purchased a Sig 232 from us and it kept jamming. So he asked me to test it. I was very accustomed to this, as it happened quite frequently. Those shooting would use myself or one of my Range Officers working to “proof” or test their guns for problems of jamming, accuracy, etc. Oh, BTW, this guy had already had us send it BACK to Sig for the same reason, & he had just come that evening to pick it back up. So I proceeded to load 7 rounds & fire the whole mag without a hitch. He loaded up and fired again, immediately jamming. This time I watched, and could tell it was his grip causing stovepipe jams. I brought this to his attention as gently as I could, to which he quite abrasively barked back, “PSHH! I’m an FBI Agent DUDE! I know how to hold a gun!” He finished with more jams & handing me another mag, all the while insisting it was the guns fault. I loaded the mag & once again lit off all 7 without a failure. He just shook his head, like it my fault. Like I was MAKING him jam! When I left that evening, I noticed his gun it’s case, sitting behind our counter with an RO to send back to Sig a SECOND time! LOL!
Now this guy & the like, I did & DO laugh at, because it goes far beyond ignorance. This case was a person with extreme Narcissism! I can’t stand this in people, any..but especially those in authority! This FBI guy simply would not concede that the failures were because of HIM! Even with absolute proof staring him in the face! Guess I shouldn’t have been surprised being he was part of the worthless FBI! Nothing but an extension of the Democrat party! Although I have noticed a similar argumentative attitude in other LEO’s in firearms related situations.
Years ago I was an Instructor & worked for a Gun store/Indoor range as the Range manager. A gentleman had just purchased a Sig 232 from us and it kept jamming. So he asked me to test it. I was very accustomed to this, as it happened quite frequently. Those shooting would use myself or one of my Range Officers working to “proof” or test their guns for problems of jamming, accuracy, etc. Oh, BTW, this guy had already had us send it BACK to Sig for the same reason, & he had just come that evening to pick it back up. So I proceeded to load 7 rounds & fire the whole mag without a hitch. He loaded up and fired again, immediately jamming. This time I watched, and could tell it was his grip causing stovepipe jams. I brought this to his attention as gently as I could, to which he quite abrasively barked back, “PSHH! I’m an FBI Agent DUDE! I know how to hold a gun!” He finished with more jams & handing me another mag, all the while insisting it was the guns fault. I loaded the mag & once again lit off all 7 without a failure. He just shook his head, like it my fault. Like I was MAKING him jam! When I left that evening, I noticed his gun it’s case, sitting behind our counter with an RO to send back to Sig a SECOND time! LOL!
Now this guy & the like, I did & DO laugh at, because it goes far beyond ignorance. This case was a person with extreme Narcissism! I can’t stand this in people, any..but especially those in authority! This FBI guy simply would not concede that the failures were because of HIM! Even with absolute proof staring him in the face! Guess I shouldn’t have been surprised being he was part of the worthless FBI! Nothing but an extension of the Democrat party! Although I have noticed a similar argumentative attitude in other LEO’s in firearms related situations.
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One of my favorite stories about newbees jumping into shooting without a friend helping was the time, as a range officer of a public range. There was a gun show being held a few miles away and folks would driver over to test their new purchases. One customer arrived having bought a Colt 1911 45 ACP and 500 rounds of ammunition. I noticed he was having problems loading the magazine. I asked if he needed any help and he asked me to see what the problem was. The problem was he had bought 500 of Colt .45 ammo. I respectfully educated him on the difference by showing what 45 ACP looked like, since I carried a 1911 as my range firearm.
Of course, the gun show policy is that ammunition cannot be returned. I never knew what he finally did with it.
Of course, the gun show policy is that ammunition cannot be returned. I never knew what he finally did with it.
OK, I am retired military, know the M16 inside out, Qualified expert many times. Carried one in Vietnam and built two from an 80%'r and gave one each to my two sons. One of my sons is a CHP and he brought the AR back to me cause he couldn't separate the upper from the lower. He arrived and showed me that he still had the firing pin and a few extra parts leftover. We got the upper separated from the lower and I finally got the bolt out and showed him everything about the AR that I know. I also asked him as to doesn't he have to clean the rifle after qualification and he said that the range officers do that, How nice!! Cause we had to clean ours in the Military and have them inspected before we could leave. He had more oil on everything in the gun and I took some brake cleaner and sprayed down the bolt,trigger area and barrel and then I showed him how much oil he really needed on the firearm. He was shocked. He better know how to open it up and remove the bolt now. I even gave him a book on the AR, it has everything and a parts list and how to disassemble and put it back together. I put the AR's together and they were both California Legal.
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