Garibaldi Colt 2nd Gen. 3rd Model Dragoon

[RWMC]

I was looking at one of these as a shooter. It is one of the plain models; no gold scenes, looks just like a new Italian repro, but with a plain smooth cylinder and colt markings. Serial number Has the “GCA” prefix. Beautiful bluing and color case hardening. Just in a small local Gun shop. Is it worth the extra $$ over the cost of a new Uberti?
Thanks for your input.

 

[Zulch]

I was looking at one of these as a shooter. It is one of the plain models; no gold scenes, looks just like a new Italian repro, but with a plain smooth cylinder and colt markings. Serial number Has the “GCA” prefix. Beautiful bluing and color case hardening. Just in a small local Gun shop. Is it worth the extra $$ over the cost of a new Uberti?
Thanks for your input.

Do you have a picture? Like to see it if so. Thanks

 

[RWMC]

I was looking at one of these as a shooter. It is one of the plain models; no gold scenes, looks just like a new Italian repro, but with a plain smooth cylinder and colt markings. Serial number Has the “GCA” prefix. Beautiful bluing and color case hardening. Just in a small local Gun shop. Is it worth the extra $$ over the cost of a new Uberti?
Thanks for your input.

Do you have a picture? Like to see it if so. Thanks

Sorry but no pics.

 

[.38 Special]

Functionally, I don't believe they are any better, so as a shooter, I would not pay significantly more for one.

Having said that, this might be a special case. My understanding - which may be wrong, and bears further investigation if the OP is interested - is that all of the Garibaldi Colt repros were finished with gold and engraving, except for a relatively small number which were left plain and now are known as "freak" models. These latter may have enough collector interest that shooting one is a poor plan, at least financially.

 

[hawg]

I saw a closed auction for one in the white with a little surface rust in the chambers and it didn't function right but it had the presentation box and all the accessories. It sold in Feb of this year for 475.00.

 

[dickydalton]

Did my research.

 

[RWMC]

I will shoot it if my plans to buy it succeed. I already have a brand new Uberti 1858 Remington .44 with a 5 1/2 inch barrel and brand new Uberti 1858 Remington .36 with a 7 inch barrel that I cannot shoot. They have consecutive serial numbers, even though they are different calibers and different barrel lengths. I don’t need a third non-shooter.

 

[hawg]

I will shoot it if my plans to buy it succeed. I already have a brand new Uberti 1858 Remington .44 with a 5 1/2 inch barrel and brand new Uberti 1858 Remington .36 with a 7 inch barrel that I cannot shoot. They have consecutive serial numbers, even though they are different calibers and different barrel lengths. I don’t need a third non-shooter.

Why can't you shoot them?

 

[Fingers McGee]

Good question.

 

[Bfh_auto]

I will shoot it if my plans to buy it succeed. I already have a brand new Uberti 1858 Remington .44 with a 5 1/2 inch barrel and brand new Uberti 1858 Remington .36 with a 7 inch barrel that I cannot shoot. They have consecutive serial numbers, even though they are different calibers and different barrel lengths. I don’t need a third non-shooter.

I would shoot them anyway or sell them to someone who cares and buy two more.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

I would shoot them consecutively...that would be okay.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

I have two Miroku "Zouaves" with almost consecutive numbers, only about eight apart. I cut one down into a "canoe" gun. I call it the Short Snorter. I've probably lost ten thousand dollars in collector value. I don't sleep well at night. Ten years after I'm dead, someone will lose millions. It sucks to be me.

 

[RWMC]

I decided to go ahead and purchase the Colt/Garibaldi third model Dragoon today. Got it for 4 1/2 c notes, out the door.

The previous owner had very nicely installed a taller, ramp-style front sight. The revolver has been used and possibly fired, although whoever did shoot it in the past knew how to clean up black powder guns properly, because it has no pitting or corrosion marks from firing black powder. There are some dings on the cylinder in the bolt lock cuts. All of the parts are matching numbers and the bluing and the color case hardening is beautiful.

Even though it is an unusual gun, it will still be a shooter, since someone has already done so in the past.

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

Any chance of pictures of the cylinder? Like to see the bolt cutouts you mentioned, curious if it's peening the edges. If so it indicates a late bolt drop and should be fixed. Also check the arbor, it may be short as well.

 

[RWMC]

Any chance of pictures of the cylinder? Like to see the bolt cutouts you mentioned, curious if it's peening the edges. If so it indicates a late bolt drop and should be fixed. Also check the arbor, it may be short as well.

I will post some later on today.

 

[RWMC]

Any chance of pictures of the cylinder? Like to see the bolt cutouts you mentioned, curious if it's peening the edges. If so it indicates a late bolt drop and should be fixed. Also check the arbor, it may be short as well.

Any chance of pictures of the cylinder? Like to see the bolt cutouts you mentioned, curious if it's peening the edges. If so it indicates a late bolt drop and should be fixed. Also check the arbor, it may be short as well.

Any chance of pictures of the cylinder? Like to see the bolt cutouts you mentioned, curious if it's peening the edges. If so it indicates a late bolt drop and should be fixed. Also check the arbor, it may be short as well.

 

[RWMC]

Here is also a pic of the the back of the cylinder. Thanks for any helpful suggestions, maybe the name of an experienced single action / black powder revolver gunsmith.

 

[SC45-70]

It looks like the bolt has been welded. That may be part of the problem.

SC45-70

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

Was gonna say the same thing SC45-70! Or it's a poorly done casting. The bolt cuts look like they've been peening. Especially on the opposite side of the lead in cuts. The peening is most likely caused by a really stiff flat spring in addition to late timing. Back of the cylinder looks ok other than being a little rough. PM me for a cost to tune it and repair the other stuff. 45 dragoon is also a good source for repairs and tuning.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

I decided to go ahead and purchase the Colt/Garibaldi third model Dragoon today. Got it for 4 1/2 c notes, out the door.

The previous owner had very nicely installed a taller, ramp-style front sight. The revolver has been used and possibly fired, although whoever did shoot it in the past knew how to clean up black powder guns properly, because it has no pitting or corrosion marks from firing black powder. There are some dings on the cylinder in the bolt lock cuts. All of the parts are matching numbers and the bluing and the color case hardening is beautiful.

Even though it is an unusual gun, it will still be a shooter, View attachment 1063065 View attachment 1063066 View attachment 1063067View attachment 1063068 View attachment 1063069 View attachment 1063070 since someone has already done so in the past.

Sure is a beautiful pistola. Would do it justice and be well worth it to have the Rabbit or the Goon tune it to perfection. Then you will really really have something.

 

[RWMC]

Was gonna say the same thing SC45-70! Or it's a poorly done casting. The bolt cuts look like they've been peening. Especially on the opposite side of the lead in cuts. The peening is most likely caused by a really stiff flat spring in addition to late timing. Back of the cylinder looks ok other than being a little rough. PM me for a cost to tune it and repair the other stuff. 45 dragoon is also a good source for repairs and tuning.

How do I PM you?

 

[Ugly Sauce]

"Start a Conversation"

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

Go to start a conversation, type my screen name in the box, put in your message below, hit send. Takes a little getting used to.

 

[Miguel Loco]

How do I PM you?

You can't go wrong letting him do your gun. Very quick turn around time too.

 

[Coyote3855]

Did my research.

Good for you. What did your research reveal that is relevant to this thread? Inquiring minds want to know.