Georgia HB 89 Passes - Say goodbye to the Public Gathering Clause

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El Tejon,

The Governor probably believes that God will watch over him while he's in church and that it would be rude or sacrilegious to bring a weapon into a place of worship. While people who think with their brains know this to be irrational, that's what you get when you mix religion with politics.
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From what I've read, the governor is going to veto the bill - did it pass by veto-proof margins?
 
I would like to know the source of the veto threat as well.

I'm not as optimistic as others on this bill: Every pro-gun bill in Georgia for the last ten years or so has been killed by back-room deals (the last one in 2004 was killed at the direction of the current Governor) and have amounted to little more than political showmanship. I'm to to the point that I'll believe that this will become law only when the signature is dry.

However, I am certainly hopeful. I still haven't seen the final version of the bill, but it appears to be LONG overdue reform of the worst carry laws in the country. Hopefully this will make my GFL more than just an expensive piece of paper with no practical value.
 
If he is a Christian, why would he demand that they be defenseless?
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One thing to remember about Sonny Perdue when trying to figure out what he is thinking is that he is a complete dumb ass. So if he comes up with an idea or thought that seems to make no sense on the surface, its because it just plain makes no sense.

He only got elected in Georgia because he ran against the most hated governor of all time and simultaneously lied about the state flag issue.
 
This started out as a celebratory thread regarding a major win for RKBA in Georgia. Letting the thread degenerate into politics isn't going to do anyone any good.
 
Rest Areas

Earlier posts talked about rest areas. According to GeorgiaPacking.org the buildings are still off limits. Public buildings were taken out of the passed law. It was in the original draft. We'll get it eventually.
 
Analysis of final verson:

Yep. We're still stuck with the vague "public gathering...including, but not limited to..." clause, just restaurants with >50% revenue from food sales are no longer included.

- Allows for carry on public transportation.
- Allows for carry in parks/monuments including bathrooms.
- Allows for carry anywhere in the car, permit or not.
- Allows for keeping of firearm in car on employer's property, HOWEVER it is completely toothless, because it does not apply if the employer owns or leases the property (wouldn't this be all property?).
- Includes some improvements in issuance of permits (I'm still skeptical on how some of this will work, we'll see).

- Does not allow carry while traveling TO "a public gathering" (same as before).
- Does not allow carry in churches or at church functions.
- Does not allow carry in public buildings, other than park bathrooms.
- Permitted person may not consume alcohol at a restaurant while carrying.
- Does not forbid confiscation of firearms during state of emergency ("Katrina law")

Remaining questions:
- Will restaurants be required to post revenue percentages (ala Texas "51%" signs)? How is someone supposed to know what portion of revenue comes from alcohol sales? Is the burden of knowledge on the restaurant owner or patron? Say you get busted for carry in a restaurant that makes 55% on alcohol sales. How were you supposed to know that?
- What, exactly and specifically, defines a "public gathering?"
- Regarding issuance: The law now states that a permit must be issued within ten days of the probate judge receipt of the background check report. However, if there is no disqualifying data, a background check report is not returned to the court (per statute). Could a judge then simply take as long as he/she wanted or simply not issue to qualified applicants since a report was not returned?

Overall, this is a solid gain for the carry community. We didn't get all we wanted, but it's a big improvement over what we had before. I just hope the Governor signs it.
 
As far as the alcohol % goes, I did a little research on this a while back, and you will find that pretty much anything that is a true restaurant and not just a bar that serves pretzels and beer nuts is going to derive well over 50% of their revenue from food. Your Chili's, Applebees, etc. all get closer to 80%+.
 
Originally Posted by BB62
From what I've read, the governor is going to veto the bill - did it pass by veto-proof margins?
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Originally Posted by DJAteOhAte
Where did you read this?
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I don't recall, but in trying to find the source this evening, I can't find it.

So... as you understand it, the governor will sign it, or will just not veto it?
 
BB62 said:
I don't recall, but in trying to find the source this evening, I can't find it.

So... as you understand it, the governor will sign it, or will just not veto it?
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I have just not seen anything that suggested a veto would be a likely outcome. Also, Conference Committees rarely put out compromise legislation containing anything that might displease the Governor.
 
I don't believe Governor Purdue will veto. It passed by an overwhelming majority and many have been vocal on this bill. I guess we'll just have to wait until July 1st to be sure.
 
Gov. Perdue has until May 31st to sign. It will become law July 1st.
 
Yup, unfortunately, the RIA case was "close but no cigar". All it did was mean the can charge you with posession of the post '86 MG, but cant tack on the charge of not having it registered. Pretty moot, as the posseion charge will get you like 20 years in prison, so the fact they cant add another 10 or whatever doesnt really mean ALL that much. (course, 20 is better than 30, but 20 is more than enough to screw you and your life, social skills, and likely mental health up pretty sufficiantly and make whatever time you may have left as a free man either short, as you end up returning to prison because you are pretty messed up, or fairly miserable and meaningless,as you are pretty messed up).I'm sure theres lots of people who are exceptions, but I think for most normal, non-violent, essentially good and law abiding people, 20 years in prison will fry you badly.
 
So, we're still stuck in the valley of the shadow of "public gatherings"?

Sigh.

EDIT: Be sure to email Tim Bearden and other key supporters that they may share our gratitude with others in the legislature. I know these folks gave it their best shot.
 
Sounds like excellent progress was made. know that maryland gun owners stand in just a little envy of your accomplishments. :D
 
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Be sure to email Tim Bearden and other key supporters that they may share our gratitude with others in the legislature. I know these folks gave it their best shot.
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I will also say be sure to thank Rep Bearden as well as Sen Douglas. Both of these gentlemen led the fight in thier respective chambers. Both are also members of GeorgiaCarry.Org and worked very closely with GCO to get the calls, letters and emails to the right folks at the right times to make this happen. GCO is leading the fight for Firearms rights in Georgia. If you live in the peach state and care about your rights you should be a member of GCO. Still plenty of work to be done such as repealing the Public Gathering wording, getting church carry and of course getting a Katrina clause to prevent state sponsored confiscations in time of emergency.

Edited to add: Senator Chip Rogers should also be thanked as well as Senator Joseph Carter. Hopefully we can get them to become GCO Members in the near future!
 
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USMC - Retired said:
I will also say be sure to thank Rep Bearden as well as Sen Chip Rogers. Both of these gentlemen led the fight in thier respective chambers. Both are also members of GeorgiaCarry.Org
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I didn't know Rogers was a member!

Awesome, both my Rep (Byrd) and my Senator are GCO members!

I hope it was the info I passed out to them at a town hall meeting was what helped them make the decision to join.
 
My mistake. I meant to say Senator Douglas was a GCO member. Be sure to invite Senator Rogers to join next time you speak to him. I invited Senator Carter to join when I spoke with him today.
 
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