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If this is true, my question is:
Has Germany decided to help any nation in the world regardless of the possible results?

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/2/18/101854.shtml


Germans Arm North Korea With Deadly Chemicals
NewsMax.com Wires
Tuesday, Feb. 18, 2003
WASHINGTON – Several tons of a chemical that can be used as a precursor to nerve gas was delivered from Germany to North Korea recently aboard the same ship that was intercepted in December hauling Scud missiles to Yemen, the Washington Times said today.
Intelligence sources said the shipment of sodium cyanide arrived in the North Korean port of Nampo last week aboard the freighter Sosan, which had been stopped in the Indian Ocean by U.S. and Spanish warships as it sailed for Yemen with 15 missiles and warheads.

The Sosan was allowed to continue its voyage with its cargo intact after U.S. officials determined that the Yemeni government had legally purchased the Scuds.

After unloading in Yemen, the Sosan picked up the sodium cyanide in Germany and was tracked by U.S. intelligence services as it sailed back to North Korea, the Times said.

Sodium cyanide is a toxic chemical that has a number of industrial uses, but is also a precursor to sarin, the lethal gas used in 1995 by the Aum Shinrikyo doomsday cult to kill a dozen commuters in the Tokyo subway system.

While there is no evidence the sodium cyanide was destined for North Korea's military, western intelligence believes Pyongyang has a chemical weapons program capable of producing 4,500 tons of poisons a year, and already has thousands of pounds of nerve agents stockpiled.

The Sosan's voyage comes at a time when Pyongyang and Washington have been increasingly at odds over the North's ramping up of its nuclear program, which had been supposedly frozen under the Clinton administration's failed 1994 agreement in exchange for Western economic aid, which continues to this day.

The Pyongyang regime has repeatedly warned the United States that it was prepared to go to war if further sanctions were imposed. Military officials Tuesday threatened to scrap the 1953 agreement that halted the Korean War.

The New York Times reported Monday that the Bush administration, which has thus far refused direct negotiations with the North, was drafting a plan to contain North Korea, including using naval ships to stop North Korean ships suspected of exporting arms.

In addition, the United States and South Korea said this week they would proceed as scheduled next month with annual joint military maneuvers on the peninsula.

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Has Germany decided to help any nation in the world regardless of the possible results?
I'm sure it has, but I don't have time to delve into the question right now.... :rolleyes:
 
This offend some but I do not care.

This is a detestible action on the part of Germany representing their desire to put profit above all else. It was reported on Rush Limbaugh that they may also be supplying components to Iraq for chemical weapons.

I have friends and family that were subjected to the harshest treatment imaginable by Germans in the 1940's. Germany has started two World Wars and as a result been responsible for untold suffering.

If this is the start of another attempt by Germany to pursue world domination, we need to stop it by whatever means needed before it even gets started. Germany is not worthy of any latitude in this area based upon their previous exploits.

I am sickened by their behavior in the UN recently. They are not our ally at this juncture. We bent over backwards to accomodate them after the last World War when we could have dominated and humiliated them like the Russians did but we did not. This may be prove to have been a huge mistake as events unfold.

I have no patience for Germany and anyone who fails to recognize their propensity for war as a people is either obstinate or naive at best.
 
I have no patience for Germany and anyone who fails to recognize their propensity for war as a people is either obstinate or naive at best.

Oh, is that why they are so adamantly opposing the war with Iraq? Because Germans are warmongers?

"Propensity for war as a people"? Do you think that the German reluctance for military intervention of any kind might have something to do with its militaristic past, and the fact that its former militarism has brought Germany defeat and occupation in two World Wars? Could it be that they don't want to repeat history yet again?
 
The Ghost of IG Farben....
...is probably just as alive as the ghost of Henry Ford, Standard Oil, IBM,...


Strange, in America they accuse Germany of supplying Saddam and in Germany accuse the USA of supplying him, too.
Sounds like selective perception. :confused:
 
If this is the start of another attempt by Germany to pursue world domination...
It's not. Commercial concerns in many countries, including the US, trade actively with those entities that may harm their own countries.

I should know - I worked for a company that continued to do business with a firm that harmed the interests of my adopted country, the United States. For the record, when I found out about the deals, I pressed for termination of the relationship. My recommendation was ignored, so I resigned in protest. Because of that action, I missed the "Golden Parachute," and my family suffered a certain lifestyle adjustment, but I kept my dignity... and patriotism.
I have no patience for Germany and anyone who fails to recognize their propensity for war as a people is either obstinate or naive at best.
Let's not go drumming up hatred for a whole group of people for the actions of some. Let's not forget that, had the more conservative and pro-American Christliche Demokratische Union (CDU) won the last election (though unlikely that was), the German government would have been much more cooperative toward our efforts. And the CDU still commands a sizable, albeit minority, number of votes in Germany, so not all Germans are "out to get us."
 
I'd like to add that the CDU has won the last state-elections, while the governing SPD suffered landslide losses. Their categorical "No" regarding a possible war against Iraq and plans to defend Turkey didn't help them a bit.
 
What a joke. Yemen legally purchased the Scuds from N. Korea, so the ship can sail on. Yet, the U.S. now goes nuts when same ship picked up legally purchased dual-purpose chemicals from Germany bound for N. Korea. I would say the Scud shipment paid for the chemical shipment.

So Yemen gets missile technology because at this current point in time, Yemen is sort of a U.S. ally. Funny, in 1980's Iraq was sort of a U.S. ally.

Even the U.S. in the infamous Iran-Contral deal, sold US Military hardware spare parts to Iran. But that was ok to sell the enemy, Iran, the parts because it was in U.S. interests.

War makes for strange bedfellows indeed.
 
Yeah, the enemy of my enemy is my friend - until he becomes my enemy or the friend of one of my enemies. Then of course it's time to accuse my friends of supporting my now enemy while he was my friend and I supported him, too. Which I - naturally - can no longer admit. :rolleyes:
 
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