Getting my first AK

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K_Dubbya

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Greetings,

I recently came into a decent supply of 7.62x39. So, I've decided to take the plunge and go for an AK rifle (no pistols or SBRs). I know the market is what it is right now, but I know very little about AK's and their varients. That being said, I've done some research and it seems the general consensus is the Zastava and PSA AK's are where its at for quality and price.

Id like modular furniture so I can put all my gee whiz gear on it and be able to readily find spare parts that will fit.

Stamped vs milled? Sounds like milled are heavier and could be more difficult to find parts for.

Ak shooters, what are your recommendations for manufacturers and varients of the AK? Pics for reference.

Cheers!
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If you have the cash: Arsenal SLR or better yet SAM7SF

If you are handy: Saiga Sporter and 922r it

If you are cheap but want good bones and a few warts: WASR

If you are patient and want American made: PSA AK-E

EDIT: the list above are ones currently that can be found still.
 
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AK Operators Union is a good recommendation for reviews on rifles and general info on AKs. I’d also add Brandon Herrera / “The AK Guy” on YouTube. He has a lot of different videos up, but several of them dive into the things to look for when buying an AK, how various mechanisms work, etc.

For the short list - I’d recommend an Arsenal. Or a Rifle Dynamics if you want to put more money into it. With a lot of AKs running around $900+ right now, I don’t see a reason to not step up to an Arsenal (if you can find one that is).

I’d avoid the American AKs - most haven’t really gotten the kinks figured out. Several of them in the past have used cast trunions (you want forged trunions). I hear good things about the PSA AK and the Kalashnikov USA (not related to the Russian company) rifles, but it’s a little early to know the long term durability.

Other things to consider... I tend to prefer stamped AKs, but milled guns aren’t bad by any means. The AK-47 started as a stamped design, but the Russian/Soviet stamping process wasn’t really up to snuff at first so they decided to mill the receivers instead. Once they fixed the stamping process, they added a few more tweaks and called the gun the AKM. There are far more stamped guns out there.

If you want a specific type or style of stock, make sure you get it from the start. Fixed stock, under folders, and side folders all use different receivers, so if you have one you’re pretty much stuck with it. The exception would be that if you have a fixed stock, there are some kits that let you add a collapsible stock or a non traditional folding stock.

If you can find one, the triangle or AK-100 series side folder is a really good way to go. All the sturdiness and comfort of a fixed stock, but you can still make the gun compact for storage. Under folders look cool, but in my experience they aren’t very comfortable to shoot.

Be careful on furniture. There were lots of variations between different countries AK rifles (a great example is the Yugos) and not all furniture works with all rifles. If you just want a dot and a light, an Ultimak is great. If you want a full handguard setup, I like Midwest Industries, but Texas Weapon Systems has some really cool stuff. Also be careful on railed top covers. MOST don’t allow for good lockup which means you may have issues with a wandering zero every time you take the top cover off to clean the rifle.

Check for canted front sights and gas blocks.

I’m not sure what you’re planning on with the spare parts. The good thing is that very few things on a good AK will break regularly. The bad news is that replacing parts is not like working with an AR. If you swap the bolt you will need to check the headspace (because it might not be the same). Changing headspace means a 12 ton press and redrilling a barrel pin. Much more than that means messing with rivets and at that point you might as well rebuild the gun. Not that it’s really complicated, but it takes some specialized tools and you can’t just swap a bolt or barrel at the kitchen table.

If you’re interested in the AK and working on it (at a field level, not a building level) Jim Fuller (founder of Rifle Dynamics) has an AK Armorer video that has lots of good information.
 
Avoid us made aks. Their unreliable and spotty, PSA is getting better but still has a long way to go. Stick with foreign made and your good to go.
PSA has done really well with the AK-47 actually, it's the recent AK-74 that they are now having issues with. The latest generation AK-E, and GF3 are GTG!
 
Arsenal is no longer what it once was. The milled variety is stupidly overpriced, and the SLR107s are on par with WASRs for about $300 plus more in price. Zastava or the WBP Fox are the best import options. If you insist on spending a ridiculous amount of money, go with a Galil Ace. PSA and K-USA also have their AK103 clones out.

There are still some Veprs out there as well.
 
My preference still is a Saiga Sporter conversion if one can find an unmolested one. If one can pick one up for $600-700 one can 922r it into a really great AK for about $250-500 additional depending on what one does. Izhmash factory produced with what are typically great barrels. This would be the route I would go, it affords one some money to configure it how they want.
 
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Upper echelon:
Valmet
Yugo M70 AB2
Poly Tech Legend
Bulgarian Milled Arsenal SA M-7 A1R , SLR-95, SLR-101 S, Early stamped Bulgarian SLR-105 A1 R
Close Second tier:
Late Arsenal stamped Bulgarian SLR-107,
Arsenal saiga conversions:SGL series SGL-31 etc
Saiga rifles especially the Saiga 308 16".
Molot Vepr

Serviceable and good:
Romanian CUR, SAR, WASR, CUGIR ROMAK
Current Zastava

Bottom tier:
Any US made AK
my opinion of course..
 
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I'd add Hungarian FEG to the second tier list. They seem to be pretty consistent and well made without any major issues. I did some homework and chose one for a moderate side folder build; no complaints and even accuracy is much better than a gun like this would warrant. They're just a bit harder to come by these days.

The ultimate AK is of course Sako M92S but AFAIK none were ever imported to the US.
 
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A friend of mine has a WASR that I helped him change out and added a few things to. I also replaced the wood stock as there was a large crack in it. Century Arms wasn't exactly helpful in replacing it as they sent me an unfinished stock that had no metal parts on it. I had to sand and stain the new stock and take the parts off of the old stock before I sent it back to them. Be sure to carefully check out the one you going to get and look for any signs of damage or poorly fitted parts.
 
I liked the Norinco MAK-90 I shot. Hate the Century I own. The Century is leagues behind the Norinco in both accuracy and fit/finish.

The AK market as a whole is priced way too high these days - certainly beyond what I'd pay. I wasn't happy with my Romy from Century back when it cost $400.
 
Upper echelon:
Valmet
Yugo M70 AB2
Poly Tech Legend
Bulgarian Milled Arsenal SA M-7 A1R , SLR-95, SLR-101 S, Early stamped Bulgarian SLR-105 A1 R
Close Second tier:
Late Arsenal stamped Bulgarian SLR-107,
Arsenal saiga conversions:SGL series SGL-31 etc
Saiga rifles especially the Saiga 308 16".
Molot Vepr

Serviceable and good:
Romanian CUR, SAR, WASR, CUGIR ROMAK
Current Zastava

Bottom tier:
Any US made AK
my opinion of course..
I like your list, but 3 of those he will have a hard time stuffing 762x39 in to! Lol
 
+1 on Norinco Mak 90.
Love mine.
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Picked it up years ago for cheap. Unfortunately they are way more now. It came with a ATI Dragonov style stock. But I 922red it and replaced it with a Romanian stock set that I fitted and refinished. But keep in mind that some have slant cut receivers for the thumb hole stock they were imported with. View attachment 959119
Made some shims for mine to fill in the void. You can also get stocks made for a slant cut but its pricey.

FEG is also good. I had a AMD 65 years back. Only problem with it is Century Arms did a poor job widening out the mag well for Tapco mags. It work fine with Tapco mags but was a hit and miss with surplus mags. Sold it but regret doing so.
 
you can't beat what Zastava is doing right now for $800
if you absolutely have to have the best of the best, start saving for a Vepr
 
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