Priceless.thin man voted "no" on the M9
glock 17 v.s M9
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I never said that the M9 wasn't safe or well-tested.
If you think that the Glock 17 design hasn't seen as much military application as the M9, then it might help to remind you that it is heavily fielded in numerous international military and LE organizations where it sees the same abuses (and sometimes more) than the M9 is subjected to.
It really doesn't matter where a gun is fired, the ammo still acts the same way, still produces the same wear, residue and round count. "Range gun" or other, I doubt that you can find an example of an M9 that has gone anywhere near 200,000 rounds, let alone nearly 350,000, without giving up the ghost.
Glocks rountinely exceed the 100K mark with little notice and no parts replacement and there are numerous examples of G17 exceeding 200K with little maintenance or service. Chuck Taylor's present G17 has more than 270K through it and it sees regular abuse as described in his continuing documentation of his attempt to "shoot that pistol to death" that began twenty years ago in 1991.
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Two very different handguns. About the only thing they have in common is capacity and caliber. I own a 3glock 34 (same frame, slightly longer barrel) and a 92/96 combo (one frame/two barrels and slides to allow 9mm or. 40).
The Glock 17 has a smaller grip, which makes it better for those with smallish hands. The 92 is borderline too big for me (can shoot it and shoot it well, but trigger reach isn't optimal, my wife cannot get a good grip and reach the trigger). The Glock has more aftermarket goodies if that's your thing. The Glock also seems to have less recoil, at least to me. Not sure why. Maybe the polymer absorbs some of the recoil, maybe it has something to do with bore/grip axis, maybe I just get a better grip. The glock also has a consistent trigger pull, rather than double action first and single subsequent shots. The double action first shot seems safer to me, but requires training to get used to.
The Benetta feels like it's better quality. The action of the slide on the Benetta is amazingly smooth. The metal frame feels like quality, the Glock feels like...well...cheap plastic.
Both are great pistols with a reputation for reliability.
One thing that swung me over to Glock. I can get one in any size or caliber I want, without having to learn a new platform. From ultra-long slide to subcompact, 9mm to. 45, between glock and lone wolf, you can have it.
The Glock 17 has a smaller grip, which makes it better for those with smallish hands. The 92 is borderline too big for me (can shoot it and shoot it well, but trigger reach isn't optimal, my wife cannot get a good grip and reach the trigger). The Glock has more aftermarket goodies if that's your thing. The Glock also seems to have less recoil, at least to me. Not sure why. Maybe the polymer absorbs some of the recoil, maybe it has something to do with bore/grip axis, maybe I just get a better grip. The glock also has a consistent trigger pull, rather than double action first and single subsequent shots. The double action first shot seems safer to me, but requires training to get used to.
The Benetta feels like it's better quality. The action of the slide on the Benetta is amazingly smooth. The metal frame feels like quality, the Glock feels like...well...cheap plastic.
Both are great pistols with a reputation for reliability.
One thing that swung me over to Glock. I can get one in any size or caliber I want, without having to learn a new platform. From ultra-long slide to subcompact, 9mm to. 45, between glock and lone wolf, you can have it.
mljdeckard
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My issued M-9 failed the test. Miserably.
fatcat4620
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Glock hands down all the way. Now if this were caracal vs glock it could be a tie.
Voted G17 for purely utilitarian reasons being a newer, lighter, and simpler design. This isn't to say that I don't trust my 92FS. It's just I'd rather carry around the 17. Both come with me to the range anyways... grip angle being a simple adjustment.
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M9 for me. I like DA/SA for a defensive gun.
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I tried to find a replacement for my SIG P226 (no rail) night stand pistol, a pistol with a rail for a Surefire X400. Narrowed my choices to either a Beretta M9 A1, 92 A1, or the Glock G17 with night sights. Already had a Glock G34 for USPSA production and a Beretta 92FS. Beretta no rail or night sights and the G34 had fiber optic sights. It did not take long to decide, the Beretta's frame mounted safety/decocker, just does not work for me. Too high, moves the wrong direction for a 1911 shooter. For me, I found the right tool for the job, a G17 with the old trigger and striker spring from the G34, 4.5# and added Dawson Precision night sights.
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I just thought that I'd add to this a little. The Swiss Army has recently switched to the Glock platform for their Special Forces duty weapon.
http://swissgunblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/swiss-army-to-select-glock-as-new-service-pistol/
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I would have to vote Glock only because the M9 is too heavy for the modest recoil of a 9mm. It's like doubling up the ear protection to shoot a pellet gun. I shoot both equally well, but the Glock is far lighter on my hip than a M9. I prefer the aesthetics of the Beretta; one sexy gun, but that won't help your aim. Besides, If I have to shoot somebody, don't they really deserve to be shot with a .45?
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i just want to point something out glock owners who dont own an or have shot an M9 shut up cause you are what i like to call glock snobs you will take two points of any gun if it is not a glock and you will not admit any handgun is better then your beloved glock
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I've used 'em both, owned 'em both, and I still own a 17 and 17L, but I got rid of the Vertec and the 92FS (though I wish I still had the 92FS). The M9 is a great pistol, but the G17 is greater in my opinion. As a tool anyways.
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Chill out dude.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo
I owned a 92FS for several years. I liked it but didn't love it. I sold it to a good friend who loved it. I replaced the 92FS with a CZ75.
I'd pick a Glock 19 over a M9, but probably would pick a M9 over a Glock 17. Wouldn't cha know it, I thought the poll read Glock 19 and voted incorrectly.
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First off I have absolutely nothing against Glock. I think they are a fantastic pistol that has been extremely well designed.
With that being said, the ergonomics are not in my head. Why should I work to get used to my pistol, especially when there are plenty of other pistols that work better for me and have a more natural point of aim? Whenever someone asks for suggestions for a new handgun we tell them to get the one that fits them the best. So why should I get a pistol that doesn't fit me and spend additional time and ammo for me to get used to IT. That just sounds silly to me.
So as I like to say, I like Glocks but they do not like me. Therefore it is the M9 for me and I am lights out with mine.
The Belgians Federal Police have decided the S&W M&P 9mm is the way to go.
The BELGIANS!!!! Really put FN in a tizzy!
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/11/29/sw-belgium-federal-police-pistol-contract/
The BELGIANS!!!! Really put FN in a tizzy!
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/11/29/sw-belgium-federal-police-pistol-contract/
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Shot both. Both are great. Glock is better but that's just an opinion. Beretta is way sexier but too heavy for the same output. Neither has the most comfy grip but I have no complaints about G17. Beretta felt too wide. I was slightly less accurate with Beretta but I haven't shot it much. I think either of these two or a CZ75B would be a good choice.
good choice the CZ-75 is a great pistol
it's does not mean you are a snob if you think glock is a better pistol it means you have faced the facts the glock is lighter,stronger,more reliable,has larger magazine capacity whats not to like
why would you rather have a G19 than G17
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