Glock 17 vs Ruger SR9
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The biggest problem I would see with the SR9 is the magazine disconnect. If you pull the trigger without a magazine in it can damage the pistol. I have not competed but isn't it necessary to remove the magazine & pull the trigger to show clear.
ProCarryNAustin
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I have never fired a Ruger that was as accurate as my Glocks. Ruger does make rugged pistols, they always seem to go bang, but they are on the outside edge of the accuracy I like to see in my pistols. I use a Glock 17 with Dawson sights for IPSC. Good combo.
highorder
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The Ghost trigger kits for the Ruger SR9 would seem to make them a legitimate competition platform.
zombienerd
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I've never used my SR-9 for competitions. I've only fired a few Glocks.
That being said, I really do like the SR-9. I can't say if mine is accurate enough to win any contests, but she keeps all 17 rounds in a 2-4" circle at 25 yards if I do my part.
You need to pay close attention to the chamber end of the barrel within the first 500 or so rounds you put through it. X out of 10 guns (not sure of the statistic) seem to have peening problems (mine included) The slide smacking the chamber is causing a slight deformation.
It's mostly cosmetic, and I'm not going to send mine back until it becomes an issue, but it can and does happen on some of them. Most of the people who have had it happen agree that the gun may just be built too tight, but I have no idea if that's valid.
Ruger does have good customer service though, and have repaired anyone's that has been returned with peening.
That being said, I really do like the SR-9. I can't say if mine is accurate enough to win any contests, but she keeps all 17 rounds in a 2-4" circle at 25 yards if I do my part.
You need to pay close attention to the chamber end of the barrel within the first 500 or so rounds you put through it. X out of 10 guns (not sure of the statistic) seem to have peening problems (mine included) The slide smacking the chamber is causing a slight deformation.
It's mostly cosmetic, and I'm not going to send mine back until it becomes an issue, but it can and does happen on some of them. Most of the people who have had it happen agree that the gun may just be built too tight, but I have no idea if that's valid.
Ruger does have good customer service though, and have repaired anyone's that has been returned with peening.
bigfatdave
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Isn't the biggest concern the fit to your hand?
First borrow one and/or hit a rental range, then decide is it is what you want and what tweaks might be required to get it competition-ready.
First borrow one and/or hit a rental range, then decide is it is what you want and what tweaks might be required to get it competition-ready.
JR47
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I have the exact opposite feelings. Glocks, to me, feel like someone took a section of 2X4, and stuck a handle on it. They don't point naturally in my hands. I own both the SR9 and the KP345. I like the P345 best of the two for feel.
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highorder
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FWIW, SR9 mags are nearly identical to M&P9 mags side by side. The mag catch cutout is different, but they will feed dummy rounds if held in place. I believe both are made in Italy by Mec-Gar.
Roc_Kor
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This 3 part review series on the SR9 compares it to the Glock 17:
The reviewer seems to like it enough. Hope it helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpTaV3A2jIE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfW0YR0yD2k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzNxlmA2iT4
The reviewer seems to like it enough. Hope it helps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpTaV3A2jIE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfW0YR0yD2k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzNxlmA2iT4
Quoheleth
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I love my "new model" [my name, not Ruger's] SR9c. It has the newly redesigned trigger in it (mfg early 2010). They put it in the compact models first and it's supposed to be included in the fullsize models. Before you knock the Ruger, try one of the new triggers. Call Ruger and ask if the same trigger is now installed in the full-size; get SN range, etc. I don't know about the Ghost, but this new one is great. Sadly, it can't be retrofitted back into a previous trigger system.
My SR9c is an extremely accurate gun, thin enough for CCW, light enough for every day use - even pocket carry if necessary with the right holster/pants/shorts combo, and an all-around great gun so far.
Q
My SR9c is an extremely accurate gun, thin enough for CCW, light enough for every day use - even pocket carry if necessary with the right holster/pants/shorts combo, and an all-around great gun so far.
Q
3leggeddog
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G17 or SR9
I had a SR9 for 9 months and I got rid of it. The trigger never had a consistent pull. Also the "Striker" has been know to break after dry firing!
Ruger quality control is not what it use to be, its a hit and miss if you get one with out issues!
FOR ME the LONGER BARREL on the G17 is alot easier to shoot accurate,the sight are easier for a old man to see!
I just got a M+P 9 ,the build quality and trigger is so much better than the SR9. I'am not a Glock fan boy,but I'd take the G17 over the SR9 in a heart beat!
I had a SR9 for 9 months and I got rid of it. The trigger never had a consistent pull. Also the "Striker" has been know to break after dry firing!
Ruger quality control is not what it use to be, its a hit and miss if you get one with out issues!
FOR ME the LONGER BARREL on the G17 is alot easier to shoot accurate,the sight are easier for a old man to see!
I just got a M+P 9 ,the build quality and trigger is so much better than the SR9. I'am not a Glock fan boy,but I'd take the G17 over the SR9 in a heart beat!
JR47
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Sorry, but the only Glocks that I have shot were issue pieces, with the NY trigger. The Ruger is a work in progress, while the Glock has been around for almost 30 years. The beginner Glocks had their share of problems with triggers, magazines, sights, barrels, firing pins, and the .40 cals had a small problem with blowing up.
I'd suggest trying the new trigger models before I acted upon anyone's opinions.
As for the M&P, they have also had their teething problems. Ask the police.
I'd suggest trying the new trigger models before I acted upon anyone's opinions.
As for the M&P, they have also had their teething problems. Ask the police.
atblis
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Is that really the picture for the Ruger part in the ghostinc.com link? If so, that is rather similar to a Glock connector.
highorder
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The Ruger is VERY similar to brand G.
atblis
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Yeah, I was just looking at the instructions for that part. That thing is a copy of a Glock with a few changes. Never realized that before.
KBintheSLC
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The biggest issues I have with the SR9 is the lawyer-proofing... mag disconnect and redundant manual safety. The Glock does not have these problems. In my opinion, having a manual safety on a double-action-only pistol is like wearing 2 condoms at the same time... unnecessary, uncomfortable, and leads to poor performance when it counts.
Jed Carter
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For IPSC matches I would use either your G17 or the better choice of the Glock G34. Drop in parts are easy to come by if you want to do modifications to the Glocks. Magazines are cheap, plentiful, just about indestructible and you will want a bunch to shoot in matches. I only own 1 Glock, the G34 it is my USPSA/IDPA pistol for now, have an STI 1911 ordered, it will be here in September. I really like everything about the G34, except the long trigger pull and reset, also the stock Glock sights need to be replaced IMO, again parts for the Glock are easy to find, and don't take a pistol smith to install. I personally would never consider the Ruger, XD, M&P, or any other Glock clone, possibly an H&K P30L or USP Expert. If you really want to compete maybe step up to an STI Spartan in 9mm for around $650.
Platypus357
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I was in a similar situation a few months ago. I tried firing both, as well as an M&P, to see what felt best. I went with the SR9 simply because it felt the most comfortable in my hand, and I had better groupings.
Just my personal preference, but you wouldn't go wrong with either. Try firing both and see what feels best
Just my personal preference, but you wouldn't go wrong with either. Try firing both and see what feels best
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<<The biggest issues I have with the SR9 is the lawyer-proofing... mag disconnect and redundant manual safety. The Glock does not have these problems. In my opinion, having a manual safety on a double-action-only pistol is like wearing 2 condoms at the same time... unnecessary, uncomfortable, and leads to poor performance when it counts.>>
While I agree that the magazine disconnect is an idiocy designed to appease lawyers and allow Ruger to sell SR-9's in California, as far as I'm concerned the manual safety - which is not redundant as there is only one - is a positive feature of the pistol. Some people want a manual safety, some don't, which is why manufacturers make pistols with and without them.
One of the several reasons that make me have no interest at all in a Block is the lack of a manual safety.
I really doubt that there will be as many cases of 'SR-9 Leg' as there are cases of Glock Leg.
YMMV
While I agree that the magazine disconnect is an idiocy designed to appease lawyers and allow Ruger to sell SR-9's in California, as far as I'm concerned the manual safety - which is not redundant as there is only one - is a positive feature of the pistol. Some people want a manual safety, some don't, which is why manufacturers make pistols with and without them.
One of the several reasons that make me have no interest at all in a Block is the lack of a manual safety.
I really doubt that there will be as many cases of 'SR-9 Leg' as there are cases of Glock Leg.
YMMV
KBintheSLC
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There is a manual safety actually... its called a long double action trigger, and when used properly provides all the safety I need. Of course, this is always a matter of personal opinion.
alienbogey
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Sorry, not trying to be a smart ***, but I disagree completely.
A trigger is not a manual safety.
A manual safety prevents a trigger from being pulled.
That's not to say that a long, double action trigger can't be safe, of course.
A trigger is not a manual safety.
A manual safety prevents a trigger from being pulled.
That's not to say that a long, double action trigger can't be safe, of course.
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