Glock 22lr conversion

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I'm looking for a Glock 22lr conversion and what I'm finding is one by Ceiner and one by Advantage Arms. Does anyone have any experience with either one or know if one is better than the other? The Ceiner is a bit cheaper.

Also, I can't find anywhere that says whether either one will work with the new Generation 4 Glocks?
 
The AA kit is a must have!!!
Very high quality and just a riot to shoot, just make suer to use the recommended ammo and keep it lubed.
the AA kit will not work with gen 4 frames.


I have "heard" Cener is garbage (both the product for Glocks and the guy) I have no personal experience to back that up though.
 
The Ciener PRODUCT is pretty decent. I had for for a G19/23 that was incredibly accurate. They do require a break in, but after that with proper cleaning and surgically precise lube, it does very well. The reason I went with AA for my next one was the Ciener staff. They've probably sold more AA kits than all the advertising and word of mouth that AA could muster. Give 'em a call, I think you'll buy an AA too.
 
The AA kit is good, although picky. I couldn't get it to reliably(and I mean at least a full mag) shoot any bulk ammo besides rem golden bullet, and I hate that ammo. I sold the kit and got a 22/45 that will eat anything. I have heard bad things about he Ciener kit, I'm not sure if they are true. Using the conversion kit also made the frame to my G17 filthy as hell, and left grit in the trigger bar that took forever to get out.

You might want to check out the ISSC M22, it's a .22 glock clone.
 
"...I have "heard" Cener is garbage (both the product for Glocks and the guy) I have no personal experience to back that up though..."

I don't get it? Why would someone with NO experience be announcing something as garbage??? Your post is a waste and useless to anyone...
 
Don't ever try to deal with Ciener. They CHARGE for customer service. Go ahead and buy a kit from Brownell's or Midway, but if you have a problem, work with them, not Ciener directly.

I had the AA kit for my Glock, and after a few hundred rounds it works a lot better. I sold the setup to a friend, he says it rund great. But all conversion kits like hotter ammo.
 
How precise is the AA kit? Could I shoot Bullseye (and shot 2" groups at 50 yards) with one?
 
I never would have tried anything like that. I never really sandbagged it to see how accurate it was, but I felt like it was just to light for real precision work. A Glock is light to begin with, and then you put that aluminum slide on it, it feels even MORE like a toy. Some are certainly better than others, but generally speaking, conversions don't come with that kind of accuracy. (Neither do Glock triggers.)
 
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I never would have tried anything like that. I never really sandbagged it to see how accurate it was, but I felt like it was just to light for real precision work. A Glock is light to begin with, and then you put that aluminum slide on it, it feels even MORE like a toy. Some are certainly better than others, but generally speaking, conversions don't come with that kind of accuracy. (Neither do Glock triggers.)
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On Bullseye-L, they had a discussion a few months ago about whether it was possible to get a Glock to shoot Bullseye-accurate groups (i.e. 2" at 50 yards), but I don't think they touched on the conversion kits. The idea was since Glocks are so popular, if they could find a way to get a Glock to shoot Bullseye-accurate groups, they could get a whole new generation of shooters to try out the sport and keep it alive. I was hoping that maybe there's a Glock conversion kit that has the sights fixed to the barrel, with a separately recoiling part (like AA's 1911-target kit), but I haven't found one anywhere so I was wondering about the 'LE' kits they have.

Thanks for your reply.
 
"...I have "heard" Ciener is garbage (both the product for Glocks and the guy) I have no personal experience to back that up though..."
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I don't get it? Why would someone with NO experience be announcing something as garbage??? Your post is a waste and useless to anyone...
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you ever read on that thar internets, lots of stuff out there :rolleyes:

Its called researching before you buy a product, try this:

simple internet search

How precise is the AA kit? Could I shoot Bullseye (and shot 2" groups at 50 yards) with one?
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from AA FAQ:
Q What type of accuracy can I expect from my conversion kit?
A Most of our customers report 2 inch groups at 25 yards.
 
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You might consider waiting for the Tactical Solutions conversion kit which will supposedly start shipping this fall. It's an all steel unit and if it's anything like their 1911 conversion unit it will be a winner.
I purchased the Ciener unit and it would not go in to battery completely. I sent it back to Ciener. It was returned a few months later with a note stating that it functioned on their test gun - unfortunately it did not function on either my or 3 other G-17's. I finally took it to a local smith who modified the extractor and now it works. As an aside my 1911 Ciener conversion unit came with a smoothbore barrel - and they tell you that every unit is tested before it leaves the factory. Ciener's cutomer service is nonexistent!
 
Dittos Tony, and they DO charge for customer service, including asking questions about availability. No kidding--send us a check or money order for $5 and we'll schedule a call at our convenience. If you don't believe it, call 'em. It's on their recording.

Now, the Ciener was by far more accurate than the AA, but it was more finnicky. I was able to shoot a 5/8" group at 50 yards from a rest with it. I mean it's a little tack driver. But it's not worth the "dealing with Ciener" part. Buy an AA.
 
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The AA kit is good, although picky. I couldn't get it to reliably(and I mean at least a full mag) shoot any bulk ammo besides rem golden bullet, and I hate that ammo.
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Probably why they recommend Golden Bullet (or CCI Mini-Mag).

What's your issue with it? Mini-Mags work fine too.
 
No kidding--send us a check or money order for $5 and we'll schedule a call at our convenience. If you don't believe it, call 'em. It's on their recording.
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:what: If that is true, it is an abomination and they don't deserve a penny from anyone.
 
Probably why they recommend Golden Bullet (or CCI Mini-Mag).

What's your issue with it? Mini-Mags work fine too.
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Mini-mags cost more than I want to spend for .22 target fodder. I've had loads of bad experience with golden bullets, and I hate how they rub off on your hands, so I don't like that ammo either. Using golden bullets, with numerous guns, I've had many squib loads, several cracked cases, more duds than I could keep track of, and they don't feed all that well compared to the federal champion ammo I like to use. Since the golden bullets are all that conversion kit wanted to use, I got rid of it and do not regret it at all.
 
I have the AA conversion for my Glock 26. It works just fine, depending on what ammo you feed it. Stick to CCi MiniMags and you won't have a problem.
 
I would await the Tactical Solution unit for the G-17 series. I have their unit for the 1911 pistol and it functions reliably with some SV ammo as well as the Federal HV bulk pack, Remington Golden and CCI Mini Mags.
 
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