Glock 29SF 10mm with Lasermax Internal

[lucentlackey]

I am looking to acquire a Glock 29SF 10mm for everyday carry in a urban environment. I also am considering getting a Lasermax internal laser, though I am aware that they are not available for 4th Gen models. With cost of ammo not being an issue, I am curious about anyone's experience with this and or their thoughts. Constructive thoughts are a plus, but whateves!

 

[Apocalypse-Now]

don't waste your money on lasers.

you'll have about a half second to skin leather and fire a shot to save your life.


practicing point shooting is the best thing you can do.

 

[PO2Hammer]

I love my gen 2.5 G-29. I added Pearce finger grip mag bases (+0), a .40 conversion barrel (for practice with free brass) and night sights (Heinie).
Mine won't be getting a laser.

 

[ChCx2744]

The G29 SF is a good choice; the laser is not. The only aftermarket changes I'd suggest making to a Glock would be Trijicon or TruGlo night sights, an extended slide stop lever and a match grade slide lock from T. R. Graham. Also, you want to buy a good quality belt made for carry, a good quality holster, a couple extra mags and lots of ammo to practice with. In terms of ammo, you should shoot a mag full of the same ammo you will be carrying at least once a year. That 10mm is very powerful and the percieved recoil will be more pronounced in the smaller model 29. It is important to practice regularly with a small 10mm like that to get used to the grip and recoil.

 

[smitty704]

Sounds like an awesome pistol IMO! Go for it and tell us how it shoots! One day I will move up to a 10mm, 45 ACP for now.....

 

[wally]

practicing point shooting is the best thing you can do.

I agree, but I find a laser very helpful when practicing point shooting or dry fire. Main problem is they are pretty useless on a bright sunny day.

I'm not sure about the internal guide rod lasers as I don't think they are adjustable so POA/POI may be a crap shoot.

I like the Laserlyte rear sight laser. It replaces the rear sight, is small enough to not interfere with most holsters, and the on switch is right there where you can hit right after opening the thumb-break (if that is your holster style).

 

[lucentlackey]

I actually have been carrying for 15+ years with two incidents where I had to pull it (both justified, not brandishing) and both times there was more than adequate time to engage a laser. I don’t practice quick draw, but this is a personal preference. I generally use a belly-band in summer and a shoulder rig in cold weather. The point is well taken on the power of the 10mm in a subcompact frame, but I have heard nothing but good things about the 29s dual-action springs effect on the management of the recoil. I had the same thought about the 40 cal barrel to allow more range time with the gun. I had planned on upgrading the sites to Trijicon NS, but I may look at the Heinie as I am unfamiliar with them.
Can you expand on the advantages of the m/slide stop and e/lever? Honestly I haven’t considered them, but I haven’t carried a subcompact Glock.

 

[4v50 Gary]

I have a Lasermax in my Sig P220. In all the times I've drawn, I would have had time to deploy the laser (had it been available at the time). The laser would have been useful for intimidation purposes which may have prevented resorting to deadly force I'm happy to say I always got verbal compliance after the gun was drawn.

Don't let any laser be a substitute for learning to use your iron sights. You must master that and the trigger regardless of what type it is (DAO, DA/SA, SA, striker).

 

[JERRY]

the G29 loaded with true 10mm ammo is about the most formidable AND diverse gun Glock makes.

i love mine!

 

[lucentlackey]

Good points on the laser Gary (iron sights too!) I'm right there with you on the ammo Jerry, I already have a .40 cal, I'm looking for an upgrade, not just a lateral. I think Double-tap is the standard for full power loads, but I haven't done due diligence on the research yet.

I appreciate all the viewpoints (hopefully more to come). As it stands right now my shopping list is:
G29SF
Aftermarket Night Sights
.40 cal conversion barrel (I wonder if they make a .357 Sig conversion?)

Now I just have to find one, they can't be found at my local shops or Buds online.

And maybe I can drop a hint to my bride for a Lasermax for Christmas.

 

[JERRY]

DT is mid powered 10mm in real life chronographing. i know they tout real 10mm velocities on their boxes but they dont do so in real life....youtube is your friend for verification on this.....

Buffalo Bore and Swamp Fox are full power top of the line rounds, but more than $1.00 per bullet leaves me having to go with DT because its fastest round i can afford.

 

[lucentlackey]

WOW! I wonder if they would sell me 12! LOL

 

[mokin]

I really like my G29. The only modification I've made was to add Pearce magazine bases. Be sure to get a good holster/ carry method. For a compact it seems like a pretty big gun. Jerry is right about the velocities. When I've chronographed different factory loads there is up to 200 fps descrepency in the published velocities and what I got. If you reload I believe you will be able to get more out that gun.

 

[Dan-O]

Like other have said, I wouldn't waste my money on the laser, but to each their own. My G-29 is truly one of my favorite Glocks:

 

[Zundfolge]

Lasers are great training aids.

Its my understanding that the Lasermax guide rod lasers aren't all that durable and/or don't hold zero well (I seem to remember people posting poor reviews here... maybe do a search) so maybe if you want the laser you should look at the Crimson Trace ... I hear nothing but rave reviews of the CT lasers.

 

[lucentlackey]

Nice Pic, nice gun.

My Dillon .40 cal die set will do the 10mm, but I haven't looked a the data yet. I'll have to acquire a bit of brass as I test the factory loads to see what I like. For $10 the Pearce grips look like a nice accessory.

 

[memphisjim]

great choice and i like lasers that being said i wouldnt use a laser that could potentially effect the performance of the gun use a crimson trace or something

 

[lucentlackey]

I think you may be on to something Jim. I took a short vacation this week and had a chance to visit a few gun shops. A gunsmith at one told me that he had to disassemble several guns to remove shards of Lasermax internal lasers that had exploded. Not sure if he was blowing smoke or not, but definitely food for thought.

 

[PO2Hammer]

.357 sig barrel ? you betcha.
9x25 Dillon too if you get adventurous.

 

[swinokur]

The is no CT made for the G29 or G30 SF models

If you are going to shoot hot loads, consider a stiffer spring. I have a SS Wolf non captured spring and guide rod. I use 21 lb spring

 

[lucentlackey]

Yeah I see there are quite a few after-market springs to choose from. It would be nice if Glock provided these, they are after all marketing it as a 10mm not a .40 cal. But the truth be told, the bulk of my shooting will be low power loads and or .40 cal with a conversion barrel. My everyday carry will be 10mm full power loads. Now before everyone dog-piles on me, yes I will put a decent amount of full power 10s thru it! But I tend to shoot my everyday carry gun quite a bit and considering cost + wear/tear, most of the practice won't be at full power.

 

[intercooler]

Kind of some bad info being given here by probably some that has never owned a laser (given the responses).

Lasermax or any other don't make a green guide rod laser. The red wavelength is indeed hard to see in full daylight. Now as for the green laser you can see it great in full daylight at pistol distances of 10-15 yards. If you plan on practicing lower light or for you nightstand gun the red is just fine. I have a Lasermax micro on my Fiance's 9mm and it is great for things that go bump in the night.
I also have a green rail mounted laser and it will light up the room almost when activated at night. Their is a reason they say the green wavelength is just that much better!
We also have a Crimson Trace on the revolver. Now that is just the bomb except for being red. When you squeeze the grip it is on... no brainer. It is hands down better than any worthless night sight when Mister intruder wakes you up from a dead sleep in your pitch black room.

 

[lucentlackey]

I use lasers. I have Sig Sauer STL-900L Tactical Light/Laser combos on my nightstand Springfield Armory XD45 and my Keltec Sub2000 .40 cal. The laser is red, but effective in-house and in low light. The 130 Lumen light on strobe is practically a weapon in itself. I wish that I had bought a dozen when I was getting them for $80 a pop. I haven't tried the green but I think it is universally accepted that they are superior. Though the price difference is a bit ridiculous.
I think it is good advice though to not change the internal components of something you are relying on to save your life. So for now it will be night sights for me.