Glock or XD

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take a glock apart and an xd apart next to each other. the function is essentially the same, a springfield is capable of weathering any torture test <and has> that a glock can. the Durability factor has been matched. glock's "funny" angle, to say the least has plagued even those who support glocks. the Xd's more 1911 angle generally improves accuracy in most shooters. if you dont think a safety is necessary, carry a single action revolver cocked and loaded.. see how long that lasts.
 
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BTW for those who say that a grip safety is superfluous...

Have you ever considered that things break?

The reason a 1911 has two major safeties is twofold:

1. The thumb safety can be flicked to "Fire" easily.
2. Either safety could break.

Things break.

The grip safety provides for the possibility that the trigger will be pulled by a shirt or other object, or a spring might break. The sear can break. Lots of parts can be blocked by dirt, or jam, or break. Engineering can significantly increase the margin of safety, should any of these things occur.

That "safety between your ears" is vitally important. You can take a well-designed gun with multiple safety features, and still simply pull the trigger and fire it. Obviously, you have to think.

However, mechanical failure is also possible, and guarding against it with multiple systems is also vitally important.
 
I just like the angles of the XDs better than the Glocks. And I know, the safety is between the ears, but I have been in a defensive pistol class using one of my XDs and did find as I holstered my weapon that a shirt tail got caught in the holster. Not saying that there could or would have been an ND, but the grip safety....I don't consider it superfulous.
 
I've got one of each - XD9 and a Glock 20. I like the XD ergonomics better (grip angle) as it fits my hand better.

As far as the Glock 20 vs 21 - I like 10mm better than .45 so I went with the 20. In terms of recoil they are very similar. My buddy has a 21 and I didn't notice much difference. The 20 and 21 use the same frame.

Now if Springfield would make an XD in 10mm, life would be grand.
 
I have an XD .40. How did I decide? Every article I could find four years ago gave the XD favorable reviews.

Go to the store, hold and dry fire both. Pick the one you like.

The XD pointed well right away. I liked the grip, and the other features. Best of all it was significantly cheaper.

I have been extremely pleased with it. This past weekend I qualified for my CWP in SC, 50 shots on target in the rain -- no jams, malfunctions, or accidental discharges.
 
They both shoot and function great. I like the glock better. the trigger safty is enough, the chance that something would get in your holster and properly press against the trigger and trigger saftey is quite unlikely. Having a bunch of safties is nice for peace of mind but I think that's all. I read that Glock guarantees that their guns will not fire if dropped or hit. The XD's have a 50% chance of AD in testing. Don't drop your damn gun anyway I say. get what feels for you to operate.
 
These guys that CLAIM a grip safety is useless crack me up. They're also scary in that they're likely dangerous around guns since they apparently don't know the operation of pistols well. Especially the poster talking about grip safetys not needed on 1911s. I'd be willing to bet HE don't carry his 1911 in condition 1, which I doubt he even owns in the 1st place. I'd also like to learn HOW someone had a accidental discharge with an Springfield XD with it being fault of the gun & not the shooter.

the guy that CLAIMED XDs go off when dropped 50% of the time is either don't have a clue about them, or is downright LYING-and probably BOTH.
 
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The XD's have a 50% chance of AD in testing. Don't drop your damn gun anyway I say. get what feels for you to operate.
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Could you post a link to the data showing this. It concerns me since I have the XDm40, and since it explicitly states the XDm has a drop safety, this should be a recall class fault. Plus Dropping the XD would result in the Grip Safety being engaged too, so I can't see how this results in a 50% AD on a drop.

Thanks
 
I own both & trust both. The quality of each is comparable, with the XD maybe getting the quality nod w/ more steel bits. (sights, guide rod, trigger, mag release) so this really comes down to what you shoot well and what you enjoy shooting. Since both are reliable, accurate pistols, it is OK to have other factors like appearence swing the decision. To me, the SD (particularly the XDm) just looks better.
 
They both shoot and function great. I like the glock better. the trigger safty is enough, the chance that something would get in your holster and properly press against the trigger and trigger saftey is quite unlikely. Having a bunch of safties is nice for peace of mind but I think that's all. I read that Glock guarantees that their guns will not fire if dropped or hit. The XD's have a 50% chance of AD in testing. Don't drop your damn gun anyway I say. get what feels for you to operate.
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I used to agree with the grip safety being superfluous, but I changed my mind when I stupidly dropped my keys in the same front pocket as my g27. After wrestling around trying to free up my keys, I had one of those Wiley Coyote moments when he was standing under a truckload of rock poking it with a stick. War grip safeties. As for the AD's in the Xd's, this is the first I've heard of it--I too would love to see evidence for that.
 
They both shoot and function great. I like the glock better. the trigger safty is enough, the chance that something would get in your holster and properly press against the trigger and trigger saftey is quite unlikely. Having a bunch of safties is nice for peace of mind but I think that's all. I read that Glock guarantees that their guns will not fire if dropped or hit. The XD's have a 50% chance of AD in testing. Don't drop your damn gun anyway I say. get what feels for you to operate.
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I used to agree with the grip safety being superfluous, but I changed my mind when I stupidly dropped my keys in the same front pocket as my g27. After wrestling around trying to free up my keys, I had one of those Wile E. Coyote moments when he was standing under a truckload of rock poking it with a stick. War grip safeties.
 
I have more than 10,000 intentionally fired rounds spread across several Glock pistols and would pick it hands down, every time over the XD. IMO, the best safety is the one between your ears ;)
 
I'll say this: no matter what safety features a firearm has, rarely are AD/ND caused by mechanical failure. That means human error.
I don't think either has superior safety features to the other.
+1 for the safety being between your ears.
+1 for CZ.
 
SHusky57: I've got 2 Glocks and was not impressed by an XD9 that I shot at a rental range that apparently was never cleaned and kept having double feeds and failure to ejects. That shouldn't be a problem if you're a good gun owner and clean/lube your guns.

If you're that worried about an AD, I say go for the peace of mind and get the XDM that has the thumb safety along with the grip safety. Just make sure that you practice with it enough that you flip the thumb safety to fire and engage the grip safety properly.

As far as the sights on a Glock, I wouldn't keep those on for long. They're plastic and not really the best. Most people change the sights on a Glock but the rest you can keep the same.

If Glock feels better to you, then that's an important consideration. Also the striker status indicator will be staring you in the face which can be distracting. I think the XD did feel pretty good in the hand and the XDM has interchangeable grip backstraps which could make it feel better.

If you go with a Glock, make sure you get good holsters that cover the trigger guard and be careful with holstering it - just like you should be with any gun.

ATAShooter: Nice license plate!
 
Conclusion:
I did the smart thing. I went to the gun range and shot four .45s. A Sig 220, a S&W 1911, a Glock 21 and a Glock 30.

The Beretta was out. It's a great shooter, but the safety can be really troublesome, especially when drawing from a thumbreak holster. 1/50 or so draws I end up failing to disengage it.

Sig and Beretta are also great, but I was shooting fliers on the DA shot. Normally with consistent practice it's not a problem, but I don't have the funds or time to go the range frequently (but I do have inclination).

Next, I tried a Glock 21, a Glock 30, and a 1911.

I loved both. The reason? consistent, light trigger pull. I like the blocky Glock sights better for a defensive pistol, they are very easy to acquire on the fast. It was a very difficult choice but I chose the G30SF for now, simply because a) I shot it really well, b) it's smaller and lighter than a 1911, so I can CCW, c) When I get a G21, the mags will be compatible d) much less maintenance intensive than a 1911.

I would have bought a G22 with night sights and 3 mags for $475 (LEO/Military discount) but I just have never really got a hankering for a .40 cal. I guess I am a 9mm or .45 guy, although I am gradually opening up.

When I first got into shooting, I swore I would never get Glock combat tupperware. They were faddish, conformist, non-individualistic, and lacked personality. But the sunsa-beesknees just plain work.

I am still scared to carry with one in the chamber, but I am going to do what I did to work up to it in the Beretta. Carry with snap caps chambered around the house, move up to carry with ammo in the house, and finally to full CCW.

But this I have to say above all. Yeah it sucks I spent $100 trying out a bunch of different pistols. But it is so worth it. Worth more than every gun mag ever written.

And my hands/eyes must be really weird. I think the XD has a weird grip angle and the Glock is very normal
 
everybody's hands/eyes are different. glad you found something you liked, and since you spent the money to try everything out, you know you won't be disappointed.


Pics?

Oh, why did you like the sights on the baby glock better? just wondering.
 
If you're that worried about an AD, I say go for the peace of mind and get the XDM that has the thumb safety along with the grip safety.
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Nope--The XDm does not have a thumb safety; it is an option on the XD Service. As for the safety being "between the ears", I agree completely. I also know that that safety is imperfect on occassion, and having an extra margin of safety is not a bad thing when the brain goes on hiatus.
 
When I was trying to chose a gun for concealed carry I went to the range pretty sure I wanted to get a Glock (based on their reputation and whatnot). I tried a G26. It was ok. I then tried a S&W M&Pc. It was better. I then tried an XDsc. It won hands down.
 
Interesting I chose the XDm 40 versus Glock 22 and Sig 229, for a couple of reasons.

I really, really wanted to like the Glock, but in comparison between a Sig, XDm, and Glock in 40S&W the XDm won out, it shoots more naturally for me Sig came next then the Glock, I was always low with the Glock. My test is point and shoot the target 10 yards away, not deliberately sighting, fire 5 rounds and check your hits and spread.

I preferred the action and Trigger on the XDm more than the Glock too, reset I found shorter on the XDm and the trigger pull felt slightly lighter than the standard Glock, Sig obviously was lighter (but not much) in SA, but much heavier in DA. The only complaint I had with the Sig was the decocking Lever, that I kept hitting rather than the Slide release :uhoh: and the Higher Cap of the XDm, but when the race is that closely run, then the ergo's help decide.
 
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