Glock sights. Why the hate?

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rskent said:
Seems like a fair comparison to me.
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Not liking or hating a particular gun or platform makes someone a Democrat? Many Glock guys hate or are equally if not more highly critical of everything that's not Glock, so what's that make them?:neener:
 
Theohazard said:
They’re not good. The problem isn’t the night sight part, the tritium vials are fine. The problem is the daytime part: they’re three white dot sights. That’s not a good daytime sight picture. What you want is a much brighter front sight that draws your eye quickly; fluorescent orange or green works well. Then you want a flat black rear sight that doesn’t draw your eye but helps you line up the front sight quickly: I like a U-notch rear sight.
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They are good. Yes, they are good. I like U-notch rear sights too. Trijicon HD’s are my favorite. But basic Glock night sights are very good basic sights. Very good.
 
rskent said:
Seems like a fair comparison to me.
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Lol, I was being flippant. That said, where I live you have to be careful who you call a Democrat. Call the man a sob or something, but not that.

And then I guess a Glock Hater could say Glock fans like there Glocks like Democrats like Obama and Hillary.
 
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My Walther P99 AS might have plastic sights. It's my only polymer-frame gun > .22LR (with Sig P6, CZ PCR, S&W 5906 3rd. Gen.)

I'm Very Glad that a vast number of gun people don't have the same tastes or preferences (even in just sights or whether DA/SA).....>>> because my guns would cost more <<<<.

Being worried about having a popular gunsight, or belonging to a general gun clique might also mean that a person has not had one or two Very close brushes with the Grim Reaper (100% blocked Widowmaker artery, and months later, sudden head-on driver on night time rural road).
 
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I had a plastic sight on one of my Kahr CM9'S. Never thought much about it, the plastics or polymer's today seem fairly tough. Then I had one break. Actually separate in half. Now just do not trust any plastic sight. Once bitten, twice shy.
 
Old Dog said:
Yes. And they don't hold up well to use in kydex holsters either, at least for those who have to train regularly with lots of drawing and physical activity. I don't have an issue with the sight picture (it's as good as any) as far as stock plastic Glock sights, it's the cheapness and durability. There's a reason that most agencies and especially tactical teams that use Glocks have aftermarket sights put on 'em.

"Why the hate?" It's not hate. Some folks employ firearms as hard-use tools. Those parts are … garbage.
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My thoughts exactly. I just bought a G19 MOS. Immediately changed them for some Tijicon night sights. As i will likely be using it as a “tool,” i.e. HD/SD firearm, I would like it to operate at any hour of the day...or night.

They work perfectly fine for day time shooting, light use. No hate, there’s just better products out there.

Honestly, what kept me from a Glock for so long was how they fit in my hand. I like the Gen 5 though.
 
swagbrdr said:
My thoughts exactly. I just bought a G19 MOS. Immediately changed them for some Tijicon night sights. As i will likely be using it as a “tool,” i.e. HD/SD firearm, I would like it to operate at any hour of the day...or night.

They work perfectly fine for day time shooting, light use. No hate, there’s just better products out there.

Honestly, what kept me from a Glock for so long was how they fit in my hand. I like the Gen 5 though.
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Does the Gen 5 fit better in your hand? I have no experience with them..
 
Glock does offer their guns with metal sights. They run about $30 more.
The polymer sighs are pretty tough. This Glock 22 was thrown from a vehicle traveling over 50 MPH . The gun struck a tree.
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ATLDave said:
No doubt, and if you ever go downrange at an indoor range, you will find bullet holes/marks in places that challenge your grasp of Newtonian physics.
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You don't have to go downrange. Most places, just look up at the ceiling.

I tried counting the holes in the ceiling at a local range that was less than a year old. Only 5 lanes, video, plus mandatory training course (free, and actually not bad) the first time you shoot there. Nice place, mostly middle-aged shooters, lots of couples, no gangbangers or chairforce rangers.

I guesstimated five holes per square foot, remarkably evenly distributed - I would have figured they'd be in visible lines following the lanes, with higher density about mid-range, but they weren't that way at all.

Somewhere around 12,000 holes.

And I've seen *much* worse on the ceilings of other indoor ranges.
 
TRX said:
You don't have to go downrange. Most places, just look up at the ceiling.

I tried counting the holes in the ceiling at a local range that was less than a year old. Only 5 lanes, video, plus mandatory training course (free, and actually not bad) the first time you shoot there. Nice place, mostly middle-aged shooters, lots of couples, no gangbangers or chairforce rangers.

I guesstimated five holes per square foot, remarkably evenly distributed - I would have figured they'd be in visible lines following the lanes, with higher density about mid-range, but they weren't that way at all.

Somewhere around 12,000 holes.

And I've seen *much* worse on the ceilings of other indoor ranges.
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How does that happen? Surely people aren't aiming at the ceiling.
 
I've had several different brands of pistols. Glock's are actually pretty good pistols. I've never liked the stock plastic sights they come with. Over time the rear sight will will often get soft and/or worn and will slip off the dovetail. I've had this happen with a Glock mod 20. Whenever I buy a new Glock pistol the one and only mod I do on them is replace the cheap plastic sights with a good set of meprolight or trijicon steel night sights. Other than that I've never had any reliability issues with them.
 
I can't say that I hate or dislike the sights on my Glock. My only experience is with the factory adjustable rear on the G44. The U and dot are different than what I am use to and I'm still getting use to them. All my other pistols have either all black sights or the standard 3 dot. I also have a Kel-Tec PMR 30 with front and rear fibre optic sights and my 1911 22lr conversion slide has a front fibre optic and solid black rear sight. The other sight that took me time to get used to using were the Heinie Straight Eight two dot sights.
 
Capstick1 said:
Over time the rear sight will will often get soft and/or worn and will slip off the dovetail. I've had this happen with a Glock mod 20.
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That can't be... Several members in the thread swear that the plastic Glock sights never break... Even Taurus is shipping their new G3s with steel Glock pattern sites, and are moving away from plastic... For the money Glock charges, IMHO they should ship with their steel sights. That's one of the major complaints against Glock, so you'd think they'd change that by now.
 
Styx said:
That can't be... Several members in the thread swear that the plastic Glock sights never break... Even Taurus is shipping their new G3s with steel Glock pattern sites, and are moving away from plastic... For the money Glock charges, IMHO they should ship with their steel sights. That's one of the major complaints against Glock, so you'd think they'd change that by now.
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Just back up and look at post #136. I posted a pic of a broken Glock rear sight .
And if you go to post #16 on page one, you will see pics of metal Glock sights.
If you want metal sights on you next Glock, have your dealer order one with metal night sights for you.
 
For a while there, Glock stopped shipping them with night sights, at least to the civilian market, and never could figure out why.

It was just a lot easier to get them already installed, and usually cheaper than buying your own, not to mention the extra work.

Its nice to see they have rethought that.

I suppose in a way, if you like Glock, but hate the sights, its a smart move on their part, to go with the plastic sights, as you can get exactly what you want aftermarket, and it keeps the gun cheaper.
 
GunnyUSMC said:
Just back up and look at post #136. I posted a pic of a broken Glock rear sight .
And if you go to post #16 on page one, you will see pics of metal Glock sights.
If you want metal sights on you next Glock, have your dealer order one with metal night sights for you.
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And if you look throughout the thread, you'll see other members whom I was referring to said that they'll hold up just fine. They should ship standard from the factory with steel sites for the price they charge. No one should have to pay even more to buy the non standard less commonly found version with steel sites. At being one of the most expensive polymer handguns on the market, with the competition and even budget priced guns being able to have steel sights as a standard, and with Glock being able to sell thousands of Blue Label pistols each year for much less than civilian prices, it's clear that they aren't exactly passing cost savings to civilian. That's just my opinion YMMV.

The grip angle and the sights are both the major complaints people have hence the origin of this thread. I hear that the grip on the Gen 5 are better, but I haven't had a chance to try one out yet. If that's true, that leaves one major gripe...
 
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Zerodefect said:
I don't want to pay more for steel night sights that suck
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This. I said it way earlier in this thread, but it bears repeating: The vast majority of factory handgun sights — even metal ones with tritium vials — have a poor sight picture and should be replaced. When I buy a Glock I know I didn’t pay extra for sights I’m going to throw away anyway.
 
Styx said:
And if you look throughout the thread, you'll see other members whom I was referring to said that they'll hold up just fine. They should ship standard from the factory with steel sites for the price they charge. No one should have to pay even more to buy the non standard less commonly found version with steel sites. At being one of the most expensive polymer handguns on the market, with the competition and even budget priced guns being able to have steel sights as a standard, and with Glock being able to sell thousands of Blue Label pistols each year for much less than civilian prices, it's clear that they aren't exactly passing cost savings to civilian. That's just my opinion YMMV.

The grip angle and the sights are both the major complaints people have hence the origin of this thread. I hear that the grip on the Gen 5 are better, but I haven't had a chance to try one out yet. If that's true, that leaves one major gripe...
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Have you looked at the price of polymer frame guns lately? The Sig M18 And M17 are selling for over $600, when Glocks are under $600. I just looked at a brand new Glock 43X today. It was priced $479.99. Sig P365s are running from $580 to $670.
Now there are some very good guns like the S&W M&Ps that you can get for under $500, but the last M&P I bought was a M2.0 FDE 5”. My buddy that owns a gun shop ordered and sold it to me for $499.99, but he had only marked the gun up $50 over what he paid for it.
Look at the Beretta APX. They have been on sale for under $400. This is due to lack of sales.
Say what you want about Glock, but as far as I know, they are in business to make money, just like these other companies. It’s all about the bottom dollar. If a company can’t make enough profit on a model of a gun they will stop Improving on it and stop making it. There have been many guns that hit the market since Glock did. Glock is still making improvement and selling basically the same guns when a lot of these others companies have discontinued models. Two of those companies is Ruger and Sig. Ruger is still trying to come up with a Model that they can run with and Sig is doing great with the P320 and P365s.
But if all it would take was for a company to put on a set of cheap steel sights to get you to buy a gun from them, there are plenty out there to choose from. For myself, sights play a factor, but not a deal, as long as good aftermarket sights are available.
For me, I find that the standard plastic sight on the Glock works for me. I have a few Glocks that still have the factor plastic sights. I also have some with factory steel night sights. But I much prefer the Ameriglo sights like these.
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I also plan on replacing the steel sights on two of my M&P pistols because I really don’t like the sights that came on them.
 
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