Glove Box Gun

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While I don't subscribe to the general "Glove box gun" premise, when traveling crosscountry, it makes sense to choose a gun/load that'll work against what you're likely to come up against....like badguys in a car (as a previous post highlighted) It seems to me like that's a poor time to choose any .380 or .38 snub......or maybe even a 4" barreled .38 special.

Penetration would be needed. An ideal choice (caliber-wise) is a 9x23 Winchester or a 10mm or a .357 with a full magnum load.
 
I don't like the idea of spent, hot cartridges ejecting from a bottom feeder inside my car. Thus, it has to be a stout revolver for me . . . either a .357 Magnum or equivalent.

I've got several .357s, but my "car gun" when I'm traveling is a chopped barrel (to 3 1/4") S&W Model 25-2 revolver in .45ACP. Using loaded "moon clips," these revolvers are really fast to load and reload.

I keep this cheap little "ammo carrier" (actually a Federal centerfire rifle ammo holder) in the glove box, loaded with various .45 ammo that could be chosen for various needs if necessary and timely (penetration, expansion, whatever). Naturally, the revolver rides in a secure holster and it goes in and out of the car with me.

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+1 on the Hi Point c-9. Dependable, accurate and at $140 you have a weapon that is backed by a no questions asked waranty.
 
you guys bring up a good point about being able to shoot through auto glass. i didnt think about that, & now have to consider that possibility.
 
You want something with a "safety" -- because glove boxes are full of stuff which will pull your trigger. Double action revolver might be a good choice, but you need to ensure that you're not going to get "stuff" jammed into the hammer channel.

But the BIG consideration on a "glove box gun" is that you need to purchase a visor holder for you vehicle registration, etc. You get stopped for anything and reach in the glove box for your registration, and the LEO is going to get really upset seeing a gun -- regardless if it's legal.

Any gun I've ever kept in a motor vehicle has been seriously prone to rust. If you're going to "toss it in the glove box" why not just find a snubby and a paddle holster?
 
jeepguy said:
you guys bring up a good point about being able to shoot through auto glass. i didnt think about that, & now have to consider that possibility.
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Sorry, but I don't see the possibility of shooting through auto glass as being feasible. Is it possible? Yes, but so is a meteorite striking through the roof of the car like in the beginning of Dante's Peak. VERY UNLIKELY. I'm not going to consider the type of gun and ammo of shooting through auto glass. If I do that, then I'll be playing the WHAT IF game for every known scenario possibility. In which case, you'd never buy a gun. I try to deal with what's practical or likely. Not the 0.000002% possibility. If people want to try and plan for every possible scenario, I think they are wasting their time. But it's their time, so have at it.
 
My 'truck gun' is an M1 carbine. Sometimes I'll throw a pistol on the dash too.

If I had to choose something different, I'd lean toward an UZI carbine with a folding stock, the AK pistol, or a MAC-10. Treat it just like a 'horse pistol' from the cavalry days. The rig carries the weight, not you

If that doesn't work for you.... how about a series 80 1911? I feel pretty safe with mine hammer down on a loaded chamber, or at the dreaded half cock position, with that firing block it's all good.

In a perfect world I'd be carrying an M1928 Thompson or an MP-38/40 as my vehicle gun. An ex friend of mine carries a PS90 as his truck gun.

Gotta have a revolver? Ruger LCR. Trigger is as good as my 1897 made smith. *very* tactile.

Or, you could buck the system and get a C96 with a shoulder stock. Reasonably safe, (I don't like the New Safety models) fires a zippy round that will eat cars or body armor, and BATguano.... excuse me, BATFE doesn't require any NFA hoops to be jumped through for the stock, if it is original or a reproduction of the original type. Also, it's very intimidating. I warded off two tweakers that wanted my wallet with one. That spindly barrel jams up a nose (literally) easy, and leaves a heck of a mark when you yank it back out. (back side of the sight's kinda sharp). And again, .30 mauser goes frickin' BANG.

finally, what about a CZ-52? Cheap, and fires almost the same round as the Mauser... Cep'n it's hotter and cheaper.
 
Sorry, but I don't see the possibility of shooting through auto glass as being feasible. Is it possible? Yes, but so is a meteorite striking through the roof of the car like in the beginning of Dante's Peak. VERY UNLIKELY.
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Let's see, you have a car full of loonies terrorizing you on the road. They are behind cover; the car door. If they are shooting at you, they probably have the window down. If you shoot back, you might have to punch thru the car door.....where the window is because it's down. The window should break with the first shot, (presuming your bullet/caliber choice made it that far) so follow-up shots would have an easier time making it thru. (again, presuming an adequate bullet/caliber choice) So, yeah, being able to defeat auto glass might be something to consider for a travel/car gun.

BTW, it wasn't a meteorite that came thru the roof, it was fallout from the volcanic eruption. Unlikely? Maybe, but more likely when there's a volcano nearby having a violent eruption. Same principle applies here.
 
sagely advice...

not a good practice to keep a loaded gun in your vehicle when you are not in it or near it; my CCW lightweight snubby revolver is what is strategically placed inside my vehicle while I am driving, but comes with me whenever I exit the vehicle
 
David E said:
Let's see, you have a car full of loonies terrorizing you on the road. They are behind cover; the car door. If they are shooting at you, they probably have the window down. If you shoot back, you might have to punch thru the car door.....where the window is because it's down. The window should break with the first shot, (presuming your bullet/caliber choice made it that far) so follow-up shots would have an easier time making it thru. (again, presuming an adequate bullet/caliber choice) So, yeah, being able to defeat auto glass might be something to consider for a travel/car gun.

BTW, it wasn't a meteorite that came thru the roof, it was fallout from the volcanic eruption. Unlikely? Maybe, but more likely when there's a volcano nearby having a violent eruption. Same principle applies here.
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Oh my GOD!!! I'm speechless. I hope you are just messing with me, and aren't actually using that as a legitimate scenario?

And yes, I stand corrected on the volcano. But when I hear people spouting such Die-Hard and Red-Dawn scenarios, it makes my mind daze out a bit.
 
christcorp said:
Oh my GOD!!! I'm speechless. I hope you are just messing with me, and aren't actually using that as a legitimate scenario?

And yes, I stand corrected on the volcano. But when I hear people spouting such Die-Hard and Red-Dawn scenarios, it makes my mind daze out a bit.
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There was a news story around here not to long ago where some guy went driving down the road shooting at whatever cars he came across with an AR. In that situation, obviously the best thing to do is RUN. However if you ended up getting stuck or he disabled your vehicle, what choice do you have but to shoot back? That would be a real bad time to find out your gun can't effectively penetrate a car door or windshield.

If I remember the story right the guy only managed to hit one guy in the foot, but it could have been very bad if he got some unarmed person boxed in or flipped over and helpless.
 
There was a news story around here not to long ago where some guy went driving down the road shooting at whatever cars he came across with an AR.
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I'm speechless !! You mean to tell me that strange things happen.......and christcorp doesn't KNOW about it?????
Say it ain't so !!! :rolleyes:
 
If you really need to prepare for shooting back in drive by shootings, then what ammo you put in a pistol is the least of your worries. The CMP just sold a lot of armor piercing M2 ball ammo this past weekend. You should have bought some. But if you're going to start shooting back at someone who is shooting from their car, then you really should reconsider the weapon you are using. The pistol just isn't going to cut it. By the way, I'd love if you could post the link to that news article of the person driving around shooting everything in sight with his AR. It would be an interesting read.
 
I would think you would be better off with FMJ loads.
But a rifle or shotgun with sabot rounds.:eek::uhoh:
 
CoRoMo said:
The SP101 is a perfect choice. I opt for a stainless .38spl revolver myself. No mag to unseat, no chamber to worry about loading, harder to corrode, just ready to play.
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How about the SP-101 in the grey finish?
 
M2 Carbine said:
I've used a couple Rossi revolvers for glove box guns for years.

I have a number of S&W J Frames but I'd rather use the Rossi for jobs that might get the gun scratched.
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Do they even make Rossi anymore? They used to be very reasonable priced guns.
 
The Lone Haranguer said:
I would not simply toss a Glock loose in the glove box. I suggest a DA or DAO pistol or revolver, preferably stainless. The SP101 you mentioned is nearly perfect. I also would not recommend carrying your vehicle registration/insurance papers in the same compartment as a gun, as this would create an awkward moment in a LEO encounter. Move these to the sun visor or another compartment.
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With the Glock do you keep it cocked position or in the position you have to rack a round into it?
 
David E said:
Not necessarily. It depends where the gun-on-body is carried and what it is. For instance, a NAA mini-revolver in a pocket holster sucks when seated anywhere, including in a car. A Glock in a shoulder rig would be quicker than reaching over to the glovebox, opening it, etc.

One big problem with a "glove box" gun is that when I'm not in the car, the gun does me no good. And, if the car is stolen, I just gave them a gun to go along with it.



I already said that if the choice is a gun in the car or no gun, then the gun in the car is better. I also said that the gun in the car is a poor substitute for a gun carried on the body. If that principal had one on his body, he could've ended it sooner.



Um, if I'm not there, I won't need it to defend myself! Houses are not as easily stolen as motor vehicles. The gun safe would be harder to defeat than a glovebox. If I'm attacked in my driveway or in the parking lot, then it doesn't matter if I have an arsenal in the car or house.

Going back to the OP, it seems that many people are applying THEIR habits to that of the OP. Some of those habits are far more thought out than those of the OP. (IE; the "car gun" as a secondary placed somewhere more "tactical" than the glovebox.)

But the OP basically said he want's a glovebox gun because he's too lazy to put a gun on, especially if he has to change clothes.

He further clarified:

He can only use that gun if something happens while he is in his car. He wouldn't be able to carry it if he went into the 7-11 wearing gym shorts. Should he walk into a robbery, the gun in his car won't do him a bit of good. If he sees the robbery is taking place before exiting his car, he should drive away and call 911

Stowing the gun in one of at least 3 places isn't a smart way to do it, either. Under serious stress, he probably won't remember which of the 3 places he put it. Consistency matters.
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The NAA Mini revolver is the smallest and most concealable you can get.
 
christcorp said:
... I'd love if you could post the link to that news article of the person driving around shooting everything in sight with his AR. It would be an interesting read.
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http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/aug/09/092324/man-shoots-teen-pasco-then-self/news-breaking/

A little different than I remember it actually. He didn't so much go shooting everything he saw, as much as start lighting up the first car he saw. The guy had "an assault rifle and a handgun". He was also wearing a bullet proof vest, so I think you may be on to something with that AP ammo suggestion...

Also found this one during the search for the first one...very sad...

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/sfl-bn-0211-turnpike-lslaying,0,3133503.story

Couldn't find the original article, but that paints enough of a picture I believe.
 
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...nearly worthless...

I'd hate to stake my life, or even a less-than decent escape from danger, on a NAA mini.
And yet, it's on my list of guns that I'd like to have one day.:eek:
 
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