Good CCW news from Orange County, California: Bill Hunt promises shall-issue

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Hey Mike,

As I posted in your other thread, Bill Hunt has stated that personal protection and self defense will be considered prima facie good cause. State mandated requirements means training.

Take a search around at CalGuns.net and CaliforniaCCW.org. There should contain emails stating that he would issue for personal protection and self defense.

Sheriff Mike Carona takes the entire application fee up front, rather than only ask for 20 percent of it per AB2022 (1998), good cause is hit and miss, depending on who you get for a reviewing person at the sheriffs office, some pro-gunners, some Brady-ites, which in turn if denied gets you an appeal with Mike Carona or one of his undersheriffs.

He also requires inspection of handguns and shooting at the Orange County range.

Bill Hunt would actually follow the law, not require more than 20% before approval for good cause (though he may just take the fee up front due to approving all applications, which is ok), not require such inane and stupid requirements, and jus t issue for self defense, which eliminates a majority of the bureaucracy in the CCW unit (which basically has a lot of folk interpreting good cause for him whereas if it's just self defense you only need 4, 5 people at the most, rather than, say, 20).
 
Yes, please look at this thread:

http://californiaccw.org/posts/list/46.page

I am so tired of gun owners who want to shoot themselves in the foot as it were. Bill Hunt's CCW position is right up there with that of Mendocino County Sheriff Craver's position, which is currently the BEST IN THE STATE and which you can read here:

http://californiaccw.org/posts/list/40.page

Wake up people. I saw people in Wisconsin bashing their Personal Protection Act because it wasn't Vermont carry. I am sick of seeing such things. Let's fight to WIN this one.
 
CARONA DWARFS OPPONENTS IN CAMPAIGN CASH

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

For more information contact:
Mike Schroeder - (714) 647-6488

March 24, 2006

Orange, CA – Orange County Sheriff Mike Carona has a commanding advantage in campaign funds over his three rivals.

According to financial disclosure reports received by the Registrar of Voters, Carona has 3 ½ times more funds available than his three opponents combined.

Cash on hand is the most important indication of whether or not a candidate will have the ability to communicate his campaign message to voters.

The reports on file showed the Sheriff with $618,000 cash on hand. His closest competitor is Ralph Martin with $80,000. Robert Alcaraz followed with $76,000 and Bill Hunt badly trailed the field with just $6,000.

The $618,000 available campaign cash for Carona is in addition to the $300,000 already spent on his re-election effort.

Go to Hunt's website and contribute. http://www.billhuntforsheriff.com/index.asp
 
Sheriff Carona WILL issue you a CCW if you are an "Avid Shooter".

I don't really see how this is going to be any different if Bill Hunt is the new Sheriff in town, because anyone who wants a CCW permit can pretty much get one now if they want to anyways.

I do find it comforting to know that there are still people like Bill Hunt who realize and appreciate the fact that law abiding citizens should be offered the ability to have a CCW permit.
 
Just went through the process....

Sheriff Mike Carona takes the entire application fee up front, rather than only ask for 20 percent of it per AB2022 (1998), good cause is hit and miss, depending on who you get for a reviewing person at the sheriffs office, some pro-gunners, some Brady-ites, which in turn if denied gets you an appeal with Mike Carona or one of his undersheriffs.

He also requires inspection of handguns and shooting at the Orange County range.


Lonnie, don't know who you've been talking to but some of your info is incorrect.
No money changes hands until the good cause statement is accepted. Once accepted the rest is just a formality.
The guns must be inspected at the OCSD armory but you don't shoot at the departments range. You shoot during your CCW class and the instructor certifies you.
 
OC CAL,

I'm in process in OC right now. I received initial approval and had my fingerprints "livescanned" just last Tuesday (5/9). Training class is scheduled over Memorial weekend. How long was it after you were printed until the next contact from OCSD? Thanks.
 
Still Waiting........

Did my live scans on 3/13, called a couple of times and they told me it could take 12 weeks. When I lived in Utah I had my permit in a week!
If you've got to the live scan part it's a done deal, just need to be patient.
 
OC Cal, Call them everyweek and ask for status. I waited three months before I called. Then they said "oh yeah they were approved about a month ago.... sorry" I started the process early April and had my permit in my hand August 8th.
 
I don't really see how this is going to be any different if Bill Hunt is the new Sheriff in town, because anyone who wants a CCW permit can pretty much get one now if they want to anyways.

I totally agree. It wasn't hard for me to get my permit, well, except for the cost of the application and the waiting time. The OC is pretty much shall issue already. It's a total abuse of statistics to say that Carona has been prohibitive in CCW issuances.

There are few people with permits because the general public doesn't know that this is an option. Turner's has a little brochure, but I don't remember anyone telling me about it until I saw the forums.
 
So have any of you acquired your CCW without fitting the criteria of 1) frequently transporting money, valuables, or pharmaceuticals, 2) real estate agent, 3) recent death threats or victim of violent crime, 4) firearms instructor, etc? How often do I have to shoot to be an avid shooter? I'm trying to build my good cause statement but I don't know how I'm going to make my case yet.
 
Just get a letter from your range saying that you go about twice a week, at night, transporting lots of guns, blah blah. I guess as long as they know who you are, you should be fine. Keeping receipts isn't a bad idea either.

I got my letter from Gary at The Firing Line in HB.
 
choochboost- Keep in mind you will need to explain your "good cause" while the person conducting the interview will take notes. Once you have your good cause practice explaining it verbally. Have canned resposes to questions they might ask. The process is like a job interview. Show up well dressed, do not use slang, and act very professional. PM if you have any questions or help with your good cause. Mike
 
Mike_in_OC, thanks for your offer to help. I want to get approved the first time, so its likely I'll take you up on the offer. That's what i appreciate the most about these forums - the members who are here to truly assist other members, whether its general firearms knowledge or successful CCW applications. To you Mike, and everyone else who has this helpful attitude...thanks!

Your advice about the interview is helpful. I've pretty much accepted that my only "good cause", as far as OCSD is concerned, will be "avid shooter". Having settled that, I've begun to ponder how that will affect my interview. I guess the next task is to try to figure out what questions to anticipate. How many different ways can a person say they shoot a lot, transport firearms, and could be potentially targeted by armed criminals, etc?
 
choochboost, I'll second what Mike in OC says. Be ready with canned answers (practice-practice). I about brain-farted during my interview. Maybe less is more, ! don't know. :rolleyes: Anyway, the interviewer (BTW, it was a very pleasnt young woman, not a big burly guy in uniform) asked me questions about where I shoot, how often do I shoot, how many weapons do I take when I shoot--pretty straight forward stuff, UNTIL she asked me to state in my own words why I needed a CCW. That's when I brainfarted, I gave the standard reasons that were stated in the letter from the range where I shoot, and she was still waiting for more. :banghead: I stumbled through a scenario in which I was in a traffic accident on the way home from the range at night, which resulted in loose ammo and weapons in my car, and having an arriving officer checking things out and saying, "Hey, wait a MINUTE, you have GUNS!" and arresting me on the spot. It was a pretty lame scenario, and I decided to shut up at that point, and the interview was pretty much over. I figured I blew it, but (34) days later, I received approval to proceed, so...:D
 
From what I understand you don't have to live in that particular county to get a CCW. Speaking with a member from the CA DOJ last year we touched on that subject and he said .."they hand them out up North like they were candy"
You might want to check on that and it seems reasonable that if it's a State permit then you should be allowed to apply anywhere in the state especially if your county is not that CCW friendly.
 
Does any one know, if wanting to have your gun at work, and at home is a good reason. Such as, i will have only one pistol, but i want it on me when i am at work, and home so i will have to drive alot with a pistol in and out of the truck, and reloading it, it would just be easyer to get a ccw.


Plus i do transport $60,000 to our bank, about every 2 weeks in cash and checks, but its only a mile away so i dont know if it counts.


Thanks
 
I'm not suprised Carona won the NRA endorsement, based on what I've read. A superior financial warchest and an incumbency are very difficult things to combat, so it would seem Carona would most likely get elected rather than Hunt. I believe what the NRA is doing is supporting the candidate that best represents their views AND has the best chance of winning.
 
Quick question guys...

Where are the voting booths located at for today's elections?

Although Carona went up a few points for approving my CCW (just received my approval letter yesterday), my vote will still go to Bill Hunt. While the process wasn't difficult, it was still too time consuming.

Not bad though, I got my approval the day before elections, and before any chance a anti-ccw Sheriff is elected :evil:
 
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