Good, Cheap Straight Pull Bolt Action?

[CmdrSlander]

It seems like all straight pull guns that aren't mil-surp are pricey, niche firearms, but given their myriad advantages, why hasn't somebody devised a way to make one cheaply so that it can compete with lower end Remingtons and Savages?

My guess is that because semi-autos are legal in the U.S. those that want very fast follow up shots simply buy a semi-auto, but semi-autos will always be more expensive and more complex than a bolt gun.

 

[Texan Scott]

Take the gas piston out of an SKS.

 

[CmdrSlander]

Take the gas piston out of an SKS.

I would rather not molest a perfectly good semi-auto.

 

[bluekouki86]

Sounds like you need a swiss k31

 

[Steel Horse Rider]

The action for a straight pull is not as simple as a turning bolt so I don't believe one could be manufactured today for under a thousand dollars. I think a K-31 manufactured today would be at least a $2500 rifle/

 

[YZ]

It seems like all straight pull guns that aren't mil-surp are pricey, niche firearms, but given their myriad advantages, why hasn't somebody devised a way to make one cheaply so that it can compete with lower end Remingtons and Savages?

My guess is that because semi-autos are legal in the U.S. those that want very fast follow up shots simply buy a semi-auto, but semi-autos will always be more expensive and more complex than a bolt gun.

For faster repeat shots, you may wanna look at pump action rifles. Not many around, mostly the Remington Police Carbines model 7600/7615. The IMI Timberwolf, imported in the 80's from Israel by Springfield, is a 357 mag or 44 mag caliber slide action rifle, but it sells today for $1500 and up.

 

[CmdrSlander]

The action for a straight pull is not as simple as a turning bolt so I don't believe one could be manufactured today for under a thousand dollars. I think a K-31 manufactured today would be at least a $2500 rifle/

No way. Consider that, with their gas systems out, any semi-auto becomes a straight pull then the mechanism to make a straight pull must be fairly inexpensive, if it wasn't, you wouldn't see sub $1000 semi-auto rifles and yet you do all the time (pre-panic anyway).

 

[Edarnold]

The question is, who would buy it? The Blaser is perfected, has all kinds of nice features like readily interchangeable calibers, and doesn't cost all that much when compared with the US specialty companies. But I'll bet their US sales are pretty much in the dozens per year, compared with European sales to a much smaller market. American hunters don't want different, as shown by how long it took for bolt-action rifles to become dominant in the early 20th century. If they want a faster 2nd shot, they can buy a 'modern sporting rifle' in any number of calibers. Sales of old-school sporter semi-autos were anemic by comparison, the Winchester 100 got dropped just because it didn't sell, and I doubt if the Remington 7600 is doing much more than hanging on.

Shooting a straight-pull fast from the shoulder requires learning a whole different way of manipulating the bolt, and most shooters just won't want to be bothered. No buyers, no incentive to tool up to manufacture. I have owned and shot the Mannlicher M95, the Ross 1910, and the Schmidt Rubin 1889 as well as the K31. They are fun to shoot, attract a lot of interest at the range ("What the heck IS that thing?), but I have never had anybody ask me where they could buy one like it.

IMHO

 

[meanmrmustard]

Post #4 and 5 realistically describe what you need, and why that's about it.

 

[Geneseo1911]

You've answered your own question. The difference between a straight pull AR-15 and a semi AR-15 is gas tube, gas key, and a couple holes. Would you buy the manual version for $15 less than the semi version?

By the time you do the machining to make a straight pull, you're just a few dollars from a semi.

 

[jmr40]

For faster repeat shots, you may wanna look at pump action rifles.

Or just spend a little time actually practicing with a traditional bolt rifle. For "AIMED" repeat shots there is simply no practical difference between a pump, bolt or lever action. And with full power semi autos "AIMED" repeat shots are not that much faster. If you are just throwing lead down range without aiming, or when you talk about very light recoiling 22's, AR's, and pistol caliber guns there is a bit of difference. But for anyone who has practiced it is possible to work the action on any of the repeaters faster than you can get the sights back on target from recoil. And the more recoil, the less difference it makes.

 

[Mamertine]

^^
I think Geneseo got it.

 

[303tom]

It seems like all straight pull guns that aren't mil-surp are pricey, niche firearms, but given their myriad advantages, why hasn't somebody devised a way to make one cheaply so that it can compete with lower end Remingtons and Savages?

My guess is that because semi-autos are legal in the U.S. those that want very fast follow up shots simply buy a semi-auto, but semi-autos will always be more expensive and more complex than a bolt gun.

300 bucks would be a damn good price..............
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=334494149#PIC

 

[R.W.Dale]

Just buy a pump action Remington and be done with it.

They operate almost exactly like a k31 inside save you're using your left hand instead of the right to manipulate the bolt that with proper techniques is even faster because you can use the muzzle rise as part of the action cycling motion.

And having owned several examples of both they shoot just as good if not better.




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[YZ]

The action for a straight pull is not as simple as a turning bolt so I don't believe one could be manufactured today for under a thousand dollars. I think a K-31 manufactured today would be at least a $2500 rifle/

To be fair, Browning T bolts are current production straight pulls, $1000 more or less depending on the caliber.