Good price for Sig P6?

[AK103K]

I got mine when they were available as surplus guns for $275. Not my favorite shooter due to the heavy DA trigger but its has certainly always been a good reliable gun.

This really is an easy, and inexpensive fix. A P225 mainspring will bring the DA trigger pull more into line with most other commercial P series SIG's. Changing that, and adding night sights was the first thing I did with both of mine.

Something else I think is an important thing to pick up, is one of the armorer CD's. They walk you through a total teardown of the gun and make doing pretty much anything a lot easier.

YouTube is another good resource, but you have to be careful.

 

[Paul7]

The vintage P6/225 used the old stamped and welded sheetmetal slide production method. Those were only made that way at the now-shuttered German plant. Also there have been internal changes over the years, mainly to the mainspring strut and mount which are not compatible with the classic grip pattern.
In short they would need all new tooling to produce new "old" SIGs. Lol.

I would think the new slides, which are really better, cost more to make, correct?

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

I would think the new slides, which are really better, cost more to make, correct?

O no, much cheaper. The new ones are CNC milled from a single billet, whereas the old ones needed a stamper, welder, and miller just for the slide body and then you had to fit the separate breech block to it- a more expensive and time-consuming process.

As to which is better, ehhh.......both are good IMO.

 

[AK103K]

As to which is better, ehhh.......both are good IMO.

I owned a number of both, and always thought the older stamped guns had cleaner lines, a better feel, and balance. Not that the newer US versions were bad. Its probably more of a personal thing than anything else.

A downside to the stamped guns was, they tended to rust if you didnt keep an eye on them. Especially if the finish was worn.

 

[WoodchuckAssassin]

Yep...I bought it. Stamped 3/79 and is as pretty as anything that came off the line yesterday! It even came with a few mags. Thanks for pushing me in the right direction guys/gals. Haha!

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Yep...I bought it. Stamped 3/79 and is as pretty as anything that came off the line yesterday! It even came with a few mags. Thanks for pushing me in the right direction guys/gals. Haha!

Pics!?

 

[Rubber_Duck]

The older 2-piece slides balance better and are lighter in weight but require replacement of the breech block pins at 5k rounds and corrosion resistance is poor. Newer 1-piece slides machined from stainless are much more durable and maintenance-free and corrosion resistant but they give a different, heavier feel to the gun.

 

[Ignition Override]

A responder to a P6 video has a different theory or belief. I have only seen this 'angle' one time, so it might be doubtful. Never read this at Sig Talk or other gun websites.

The hammer spur ("Deformationssporn") could have been added to indicate whether the pistol had been pulled from the holster, and possibly used.
A tiny, short lanyard attached to it might have warped (and opened?) the small spur, If that is true.

 

[golden]

Woody,

I would pay 500 for a P225, but not a P6. They look identical, but they are not. The P6 was set up for a ball or fmj round. A Dutch cop who carried one said he was issued the German GECO BAT ammo. This was a capped hollow point that looked like a round nose fmj, but would expand. He said it worked well.
I have owned a P6 ex police gun and it will not feed any expanding ammo except the COR BON Powerball ammo. It even jams on REMINGTON 115 grain jhp which is the most reliable feeder in my experience. With ammo it will feed, it is a nice range gun, but finding reliable feeding ammo that expands is a challenge.
My 225 is a civilian gun and completely different. It feeds everything. Pay the extra money for the P225 and you will have one of the nicest 9m.m. pistols of any make. It fits my hand like a glove and shots quite well.

Jim

 

[JR24]

Woody,

I would pay 500 for a P225, but not a P6. They look identical, but they are not. The P6 was set up for a ball or fmj round. A Dutch cop who carried one said he was issued the German GECO BAT ammo. This was a capped hollow point that looked like a round nose fmj, but would expand. He said it worked well.
I have owned a P6 ex police gun and it will not feed any expanding ammo except the COR BON Powerball ammo. It even jams on REMINGTON 115 grain jhp which is the most reliable feeder in my experience. With ammo it will feed, it is a nice range gun, but finding reliable feeding ammo that expands is a challenge.
My 225 is a civilian gun and completely different. It feeds everything. Pay the extra money for the P225 and you will have one of the nicest 9m.m. pistols of any make. It fits my hand like a glove and shots quite well.

Jim

My old P6 fed Remington golden saber and PDX fine. For what worth.

 

[AK103K]

Some P6's feed HP's fine, some dont. SIG obviously knew it was an issue and addressed it with the changes to the barrel ramps.

If your gun works with the, great, youre all set. If not, if it really bothers you, at least you have an idea as to where the trouble may lie, and if you want to drop some more money into it, pick up a later barrel, if you can find one, or have someone reprofile the ramp.

I had some of that Geco "BAT" ammo back in the 80's and used it in my P7. Its basically a high velocity, expanding bullet, with a profile thats basically FMJ, that has a plastic insert into the cavity, that completes the round. The insert leaves the bullet on firing.

Heres what it looks like....





You can see where the hole in the base allows gas to drive the plug out on firing.

 

[JDR]

My own Sig P6 is the best $319 I’ve ever spent, mine came with 3 factory 8 round mags and I’ve been able to get 4 more for reasonble prices, but the OEM mags are getting scarce and pricey like the guns are. ProMag still makes 10 rounders for the P6 and the original P225 and these are easy to find and they seem to cycle rounds fine but the ones I tried do not drop free.

 

[WoodchuckAssassin]

Some P6's feed HP's fine, some dont. SIG obviously knew it was an issue and addressed it with the changes to the barrel ramps.

If your gun works with the, great, youre all set. If not, if it really bothers you, at least you have an idea as to where the trouble may lie, and if you want to drop some more money into it, pick up a later barrel, if you can find one, or have someone reprofile the ramp.

I had some of that Geco "BAT" ammo back in the 80's and used it in my P7. Its basically a high velocity, expanding bullet, with a profile thats basically FMJ, that has a plastic insert into the cavity, that completes the round. The insert leaves the bullet on firing.

Heres what it looks like....

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You can see where the hole in the base allows gas to drive the plug out on firing.

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That is just flat out cool looking!
I'll try to get some pics up, but my cell phone is best used as a skipping stone...so no promises.

 

[WoodchuckAssassin]

My old P6 fed Remington golden saber and PDX fine. For what worth.

I heard the exact same thing from the Sig-guy at the shop. I'm gunna run a few boxes of different ammo through her when I have a chance. I don't think I'll be broken hearted if it doesn't feed hollow points. If I can find ammo that makes it go bang every time, I'm happy.

 

[mgmorden]

Woody,

I would pay 500 for a P225, but not a P6. They look identical, but they are not. The P6 was set up for a ball or fmj round.

Depends on the production timeframe. Any P6 made after July 1989 will be setup the same as the P225 and will feed hollow points just fine. The only difference at that point is the heavier mainspring and the "drop indicator" on the hammer spur.

A lot of older ones can also have the new/P225 style ramp too (I'm not sure if this was intentional retrofitting, unintentional swapping of parts, or just them occasionally needing a new barrel where they get the new style). Mine is a March 1983 production but I've verified that it has the new style feed ramp and has fed all the brands of JHP's I've tried just fine.

I've attached a picture for reference - you'll notice that in the "old style" ramp the supports/struts going from the ramp to the bottom of the barrel are straight forming a triangle. On the newer style they go out a short distance at an angle and then change angles and go straight up instead.

 

[WoodchuckAssassin]

PM me if you do and we can work something out

If you're still interested, I might like to take that P6 mag off your hands. I finally made it to the range and one of my aftermarket mags was acting kinda funny.