Good reading on ST&T and other literature on gun fights...?

[DustyGmt]

Just looking for some interesting reading. Any articles or other published works you guys might recommend. I used to enjoy reading some of the Guns Magazine articles from Gun Fu masters but I'm drawing a blank on their names and not really sure who I'm looking for. I know I read some interesting stories about Jim Cirillo and liked alot of Ayoob's stuff but I can't recall very much of it, I never bought any of their actual books. What are some works I should look at for combat handgunning and long gun tactics.

Doesn't necessarily need to be a "how to" or training material per se, I'm also interested in hearing stories too. Throw out some names and titles if any come to mind.....

I really enjoy watching a certain channel on YT that has WWII and Vietnam vets who open up and discuss their time over seas and the things that happened in those wars, some of the strategies and tactics those guys used were pretty clever and sophisticated even by today's standards.

 

[Barry the Bear]

No Second Place Winner by Bill Jordan (perspective from a cop and borderpatrolman), Paul Kirchner's Tales of the Stakeout squad with Jim Cirillo, In the Gravest Extreme by Massad Ayoob, Principles of Personal Defense by Jeff Cooper, Six Guns by Elmer Keith ( this one is more about history but there is a plethora of anecdotal stories of gun fights)

 

[lemaymiami]

I'll say it again... my bible -all those years ago was Street Survival - mostly about training and tactics- but with enough real life stories and on scene photos to get your attention... It also went into some detail about gun or confrontation mis-conceptions that could put you behind the eight ball in a shootout...

 

[Jeff White]

I'll say it again... my bible -all those years ago was Street Survival - mostly about training and tactics- but with enough real life stories and on scene photos to get your attention... It also went into some detail about gun or confrontation mis-conceptions that could put you behind the eight ball in a shootout...

Remember the cover photo on one of the early issues, the well endowed woman wearing a low cut top in a convertible pointing a gun at the officer? It wasn’t the handgun that most guys noticed first.

 

[DustyGmt]

Remember the cover photo on one of the early issues, the well endowed woman wearing a low cut top in a convertible pointing a gun at the officer? It wasn’t the handgun that most guys noticed first.

Well I did a quick Google search, couldn't find it . It is "Street Survival: Tactics for Armed Encounters" correct? In that same vein, people certainly know the science of how to market things to men especially, lol. Thinking Lenny Magill and EAA, they always made sure to put something eye catching in their ads.....

 

[Jeff White]

I think it was Street Survival Tactics for Criminal Patrol. Might date back to 1993 or earlier.

 

[Matthew Temkin]

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m98...udopMvUfq0g5dTUnFhx-uDh0UewbteB4aAgC-EALw_wcB

 

[lemaymiami]

I bought my copy which was probably a very early edition (maybe the first) in the very early eighties- after I’d already been in my one and only shooting incident in 22 years as a cop…and spent a bad six months in and out of court before it was ruled to be justified…

I was totally un-prepared that day in spite of five years with a badge and a hitch in the service before that… I was determined to learn what I really needed to know if it ever came my way again. That book got me a good start. It’s probably a bit dated now but the basic principles don’t change. It taught me that your tactics in an armed encounter are probably more important than your weapon… Something to think about.

 

[lemaymiami]

Just did a quick check on Amazon and found quite a few used copies of the book I remember (65, actually ranging from a few bucks up to over $20...). https://www.amazon.com/Street-Survi...books&sprefix=Street+Su,stripbooks,123&sr=1-3

My memory must be off since they're showing it with a 1987 publishing date... oh well - another senior moment. Like I said it's obviously very dated - but the tactics are still sound and worth a look... (no, this is not the edition with the pretty girl on the cover...).

 

[shafter]

There isn't a lot of current information out there. The guys who have the first hand knowledge are teaching courses and not writing books. One can find some good stuff on youtube if you know how to sift through the junk.

 

[Private Citizen]

As part of Mas Ayoob's MAG40 class (which I cannot recommend highly enough), he advises students to update their course notes with a list of all self-defense-related classes they have taken and books/essays they have read. Below, FWIW, are the titles from my list:

Deadly Force: Understanding Your Right to Self-Defense by Massad Ayoob

In the Gravest Extreme: The Role of the Firearm in Personal Protection by Massad Ayoob

The Ayoob Files: The Book by Massad Ayoob

Straight Talk on Armed Defense: What the Experts Want You to Know edited by Massad Ayoob

Thank God I Had a Gun: True Accounts of Self Defense (2nd Edition) by Chris Bird

Alvarez by Roy Black

The Law of Self Defense (Third Edition) by Andrew F. Branca

The Man Who Shot Osama Bin Laden is Screwed by Phil Bronstein

Guns, Bullets, and Gunfights by Jim Cirillo

Principles of Personal Defense by Col. Jeff Cooper

Concealed Carry Class: The ABCs of Self-Defense Tools and Tactics by Tom Givens

Gray’s Anatomy by Henry Gray

The Tueller Drill Revisited by Gila Hayes

Marine Sniper (The Life of Carlos Hathcock) by Charles Henderson

There is No Second Place Winner by William Henry “Bill” Jordan

Jim Cirillo’s Tales of the Stakeout Squad by Paul Kirchner

On Death and Dying by Elisabeth Kubler-Ross

The Dangers of Intervention by Evan Marshall

FBI Miami Firefight: Five Minutes that Changed the Bureau by Edmundo & Elizabeth Mireles

Will it Hurt Me in Court? by Dr. Glenn Meyer

gunFIGHT! – An Integrated Approach to Shooting and Fighting in Close Quarters by Richard Nance

How Close is Too Close? by Dennis Tueller

Lessons from Armed America by Mark Walters and Kathy Jackson

Lessons from Unarmed America by Mark Walters and Rob Pincus

The Deadly Mix: Officers, Offenders, and the Circumstances That Bring Them Together by Anthony J. Pinizzotto, Ph.D., Edward F. Davis, M.S., and Charles E. Miller III

Verbal Judo: The Gentle Art of Persuasion by George J. Thompson, Ph.D. and Jerry B. Jenkins

In addition, here is a partial list of authors on self-defense who Ayoob recommends: Jeff Cooper, Charles Askins, Chuck Taylor, John Farnam, Dave Kenik, Mike Izumi, Gabe Suarez, Chuck Karwan, Tom Givens, Rich Nance, Rich Grassi, Walt Rauch, Dave Grossman, Dave Spaulding, Andrew Branca, Chic Gaylord, Rex Applegate, Gila Hayes, Kathy Jackson, Paxton Quigley, Mike Conti, Greg Morrison.

 

[DustyGmt]

As part of Mas Ayoob's MAG40 class (which I cannot recommend highly enough), he advises students to update their course notes with a list of all self-defense-related classes they have taken and books/essays they have read. Below, FWIW, are the titles from my list:

Deadly Force: Understanding Your Right to Self-Defense by Massad Ayoob

In the Gravest Extreme: The Role of the Firearm in Personal Protection by Massad Ayoob

The Ayoob Files: The Book by Massad Ayoob

Straight Talk on Armed Defense: What the Experts Want You to Know edited by Massad Ayoob

Thank God I Had a Gun: True Accounts of Self Defense (2nd Edition) by Chris Bird

Alvarez by Roy Black

The Law of Self Defense (Third Edition) by Andrew F. Branca

The Man Who Shot Osama Bin Laden is Screwed by Phil Bronstein

Guns, Bullets, and Gunfights by Jim Cirillo

Principles of Personal Defense by Col. Jeff Cooper

Concealed Carry Class: The ABCs of Self-Defense Tools and Tactics by Tom Givens

Gray’s Anatomy by Henry Gray

The Tueller Drill Revisited by Gila Hayes

Marine Sniper (The Life of Carlos Hathcock) by Charles Henderson

There is No Second Place Winner by William Henry “Bill” Jordan

Jim Cirillo’s Tales of the Stakeout Squad by Paul Kirchner

On Death and Dying by Elisabeth Kubler-Ross

The Dangers of Intervention by Evan Marshall

FBI Miami Firefight: Five Minutes that Changed the Bureau by Edmundo & Elizabeth Mireles

Will it Hurt Me in Court? by Dr. Glenn Meyer

gunFIGHT! – An Integrated Approach to Shooting and Fighting in Close Quarters by Richard Nance

How Close is Too Close? by Dennis Tueller

Lessons from Armed America by Mark Walters and Kathy Jackson

Lessons from Unarmed America by Mark Walters and Rob Pincus

The Deadly Mix: Officers, Offenders, and the Circumstances That Bring Them Together by Anthony J. Pinizzotto, Ph.D., Edward F. Davis, M.S., and Charles E. Miller III

Verbal Judo: The Gentle Art of Persuasion by George J. Thompson, Ph.D. and Jerry B. Jenkins

In addition, here is a partial list of authors on self-defense who Ayoob recommends: Jeff Cooper, Charles Askins, Chuck Taylor, John Farnam, Dave Kenik, Mike Izumi, Gabe Suarez, Chuck Karwan, Tom Givens, Rich Nance, Rich Grassi, Walt Rauch, Dave Grossman, Dave Spaulding, Andrew Branca, Chic Gaylord, Rex Applegate, Gila Hayes, Kathy Jackson, Paxton Quigley, Mike Conti, Greg Morrison.

I have read some of Mas' literature and watched some of his videos, watched a few Pincus DVD's and read a few of Jim Cirillos stories, but that looks like a pretty good catalog of literature on gunfights and self defense. I will definitely give them a more in depth look and maybe actually read cover to cover instead of just perusing

 

[gyp_c2]

I just stumbled across this.
Not a book tho.

https://www.breachbangclear.com/cooper-color-code/

 

[DeepSouth]

I really enjoy watching a certain channel on YT that has WWII and Vietnam vets who open up and discuss their time over seas and the things that happened in those wars

not necessarily an answer to the question. but you might be interested in
https://m.youtube.com/user/MedalOfHonorBook