Got a problem with the law.

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At times when various laws restricting firearms have been passed, I have thought that they were not that big a deal and really didn't affect me. A few years ago I built a house across town. Everyday, several times a day I travel the road that the local high school is located on. I also have a daughter who is a freshman this year and I drop her off at school every morning. The law that restricts having a gun on a school campus now affects me and the more I think about it the madder I get. If I want to shoot after work, I guess I am in violation of the law if I put a gun(s) in my truck in the morning since I have to go onto the campus to drop my daughter off at school. What if I regularly keep a gun under the seat of my truck, which is the norm for me. Legally, I have to take it out, take my daughter to school, go back home and get it. Seems this law affects me more than the bad guy. If the bad guy is planning to shoot someone at school, I doubt he's worried about breaking the law of having a firearm on school property.:cuss:
 
"Gun free zones" are pointless, I agree. Anyone out to do harm with a weapon is going to ignore it, and a legal gun owner minding their own business is nothing to worry about.

All I can say its its lawmakers doing what they do best... making piles and piles of laws with no effects.
 
Have you actually reviewed the text of the law? You might be able to have firearms in (a) locked case(s) in the car, so long as you're not taking them inside the building. I know that's how it is in VA.

~GnSx
 
All I can say its its lawmakers doing what they do best... making piles and piles of laws with no effects.
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Agree 100%, I am all for our school officials and children being safe, but it seems this law doesn't protect them from someone who would do them harm, and therefore is completely useless. When I was in high school at the very same school, I (along with my friends) almost always had a rifle or shotgun in the window rack of my truck. Several of us hunted nearly every afternoon when school got out. Guess those days are gone.
 
GunnySox,

Actually I haven't. I tried to find the laws restricting firearms on school property online and didn't have any luck. I do intend to find the info so I will know what my rights are within the law. I was thinking here in AL you can't have a firearm within 1000 feet of a school building, period.
 
My understanding..

is that most if not all gun control laws only affect the law abiding and not the criminal. Not just my opinion...some governmental agency apparently did a study and came to the same conclusion. As I point out when covering the Hawaii laws section of the mandatory firearms safety courses I teach: It is against the law to possess a pistol magazine with more than 10 round capacity. One of the "reasons" I've been given for this law is so that a responding police officer will have an advantage with his/her 17 round magazine. My thinking is that if a person is going to use their pistol to shoot at police officers they are not likely to worry that their magazine capacity is illegal.

migoi
 
The law here in Texas states CHL holders can carry or have their weapons in parking lots, but not on school premises. Check your local laws, it'll spell out exactly what "premises" is.

As far as the federal gun-free school zones, yeah, it's dumb, but as long as your weapon is concealed, I wouldn't worry.
(meaning local law enforcement wouldn't have legal reasons to search you to check for compliance)
 
Thumbody:

Here's what I found in Section 13a
Section 13A-11-52

Carrying pistol on premises not his own; who may carry pistol.

Except as otherwise provided in this article, no person shall carry a pistol about his person on premises not his own or under his control; but this section shall not apply to any sheriff or his deputy or police officer of an incorporated town or city in the lawful discharge of the duties of his office, or to United States marshal or his deputies, rural free delivery mail carriers in the discharge of their duties as such, bonded constables in the discharge of their duties as such, conductors, railway mail clerks and express messengers in the discharge of their duties.

(Acts 1919, No. 204, p. 196; Code 1923, §3487; Code 1940, T. 14, §163; Code 1975, §13-6-122.)
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I searched the entire statute and couldn't find any mention of firearms on school property. The section I quoted is a general prohibition against carrying on any property other than your own, and does not appear to make any exception for carrying with the property owners permission. Thus, it is clearly illegal to carry on school "premises" (but I didn't look up the definition of "premises"), but equally illegal to carry (or transport) in the parking lot of the local 7-11.
 
Last time I checked, most of the "no guns on school property" had some form of exemption for someone having a gun in their car while picking up or dropping of a child...

Also: the 1000 yard rule was struck, since that would prohibit someone living next to a school from owning a gun...
 
IANAL, but it seems like you are exempt if you have a pistol permit:

Code of Alabama Section 13A-11-72
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(c) Subject to the exceptions provided by Section 13A-11-74, no person shall knowingly with intent to do bodily harm carry or possess a deadly weapon on the premises of a public school.

(d) Possession of a deadly weapon with the intent to do bodily harm on the premises of a public school in violation of subsection (c) of this section is a Class C felony.

(e) Law enforcement officers are exempt from this section, and persons with pistol permits issued pursuant to Section 13A-11-75, are exempt from the provisions of subsection (c) of this section.
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Hmmm. Sounds like pointless hysteria, to me. Read the law first, then get upset if it adversely affects you.
 
Sounds like "intent" is the key and dropping someone off at school or picking up does not sound much like there is any intent to do bodily harm. You get into trouble and pull the thing out, then there is intent.
 
Also, if you have a CCW you can simply drop your daughter off on the "public street" in front of the school. Streets are public property and within the scope of CCW licensing.
 
Hawkmoon here is a bit more from the code
Section 13A-11-72
Certain persons forbidden to possess pistol.

(a) No person who has been convicted in this state or elsewhere of committing or attempting to commit a crime of violence shall own a pistol or have one in his or her possession or under his or her control.

(b) No person who is a drug addict or an habitual drunkard shall own a pistol or have one in his or her possession or under his or her control.

(c) Subject to the exceptions provided by Section 13A-11-74, no person shall knowingly with intent to do bodily harm carry or possess a deadly weapon on the premises of a public school.

(d) Possession of a deadly weapon with the intent to do bodily harm on the premises of a public school in violation of subsection (c) of this section is a Class C felony.

(e) Law enforcement officers are exempt from this section, and persons with pistol permits issued pursuant to Section 13A-11-75, are exempt from the provisions of subsection (c) of this section.

(f) The term "public school" as used in this section applies only to a school composed of grades K-12 and shall include a school bus used for grades K-12.

(g) The term "deadly weapon" as used in this section means a firearm or anything manifestly designed, made, or adapted for the purposes of inflicting death or serious physical injury, and such term includes, but is not limited to, a bazooka, hand grenade, missile, or explosive or incendiary device; a pistol, rifle, or shotgun; or a switch-blade knife, gravity knife, stiletto, sword, or dagger; or any club, baton, billy, black-jack, bludgeon, or metal knuckles.
(Acts 1936, Ex. Sess., No. 82, p. 51; Code 1940, T. 14, §174; Acts 1951, No. 784, p. 1378; Code 1975, §13-6-152; Acts 1994, 1st Ex. Sess., No. 94-817, §1.)


I see they use the words "with intent to do bodily harm"which could exempt possessing with no illegal intent (or maybe not).
 
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