Got my first blackpowder gun today

[Reddbecca]

Got it today at a pawnshop. It's an Italian replica 1858 New Army, 8" octagonal barrel, blued steel, brass frame, tight cylinder lockup, very good timing, sharp rifling, strong lands and grooves, only slight rust on the outer frame.

I'd like to find whoever owned it before me and sold it, because that son of a bitch didn't do too good of a job cleaning it. Powder fouling in the chambers and such, took me 36 patches to clean out propertly, but no sign of rust.

Overall it seems to be very good condition, no barbs or rough spots from the manufacturing process that I can find. Other than the corrosion spots on the outside everythign seems good. The best part of all it only cost me $50.

 

[Jamie C.]

Sounds like you got a good deal, Red.

Brasso ought to clean up the corrosion on brass bits, and it sounds like you already have the steel under control.

Have fun with it, and report back on how it shoots.



J.C.

 

[Reddbecca]

My only complaint so far is that the trigger guard keeps rubbing the second knuckle on my middle finger, making holding it somewhat uncomfortable.

I know that brass frames aren't really meant for heavy use so light loads would be necessary. Then again if I decide not to sell it, I can probably get it cleaned up some more, polish it up somewhat and sell it to the other pawn shop and get my investment back.

Only time will tell what happens.

 

[Sistema1927]

$50?

And you wanted it to be clean?

Sounds like you did good, now that you have it all cleaned up I will give you $55 for it (you pay the shipping).

 

[DixieTexian]

Sounds like a good deal. That's a good gun to start out with. You don't have much invested in it, and Remingtons have a bigger surface that the cylinder recoils against, so I would go ahead and shoot heavy loads in it if it were mine. You should be able to save enough money to buy a walker before it wears out...

 

[Reddbecca]

$50?

And you wanted it to be clean?

It would've been nice.

You don't have much invested in it, and Remingtons have a bigger surface that the cylinder recoils against, so I would go ahead and shoot heavy loads in it if it were mine.

Technically it's not a Remington, since it was made in Italy. Either way I'm not going to be abusing the brass frame.

 

[mykeal]

Technically it's not a Remington, since it was made in Italy.

Technically, it is a Remington, an 1858 Remington New Army to be more precise. Remington is the model. Uberti, Pietta, Armi San Marco, depending on the hallmark, is the manufacturer. So you would say it's a Uberti Remington, for instance.

If you were to tell someone that you had a black powder Remington there would be no presumption that it was made by Remington. Unless, of course, you had an actual antique, genuine Remington, in which case you would be welcome to brag a bit.

 

[Reddbecca]

Well here are the pictures of my recent addition. The brass looks a lot better in the pictures than it does IRL; more shine.

 

[Old Dragoon]

I believe you will find that it is an Euroarms or Armi San Paolo, If it has DGG under the grips or under the bbl. It is a Remington Beals based Frame, not the NMA frame because the threads are covered at the breech. That might be one reason it is whacking your knuckles as it is a smaller frame than the Pietta or Uberti. Looks as though the hammer was bobbed some too. Good Buy though.

Is it 44 Or 36 Cal. A load of 28 Grns in the 44 and 23-25 in the 36 will be fine in it.

 

[Reddbecca]

I believe you will find that it is an Euroarms or Armi San Paolo, If it has DGG under the grips or under the bbl.

No such markings to be found. A few of the markings I'm finding are XXX on the right side of the brass frame, and what looks like a P and R overstamped each other on the butt of the handle.

Is it 44 Or 36 Cal. A load of 28 Grns in the 44 and 23-25 in the 36 will be fine in it.

.44 caliber, I checked with a ruler and came out with the chambers being over 11mm.

 

[Snaggletooth]

Looks like you have a 1974 (XXX) and I'm thinking that DDG in a circle is Armi San Paolo9 Euroarms) If its dp in a circle its Pedersoli. I shoot a Brass like you have and use 25 grains. Its still tight. Enjoy your pistol. If it loosens up too much buy another. Ill bet it will be years before it loosens up.

 

[rifle]

The brass not being shiny looks good to me. The ring around the cylinder means a new bolt may be needed before it damages the cylinder notches too badly.

 

[O.S.O.K.]

Thats a great first c&b

and for $50 - you did great.

I would keep the loads at middle of the road levels which should give good accuracy and very enjoyable shooting.

I say great "first" c&b revolver because you will get another, and another....