KelVarnson
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Great stuff there, Restorer. Too bad there's not a "Best of THR", I would nominate your post. However, I think you forgot "No pearl grips after Labor Day".
GQ Style Guy is a definite Anti
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a) Restorer, that was hilarious!
b) There is absolutely nothing (inherently) racist about being "made nervous" by an actual hip-hop personality who may have rapped about violence. Nor, I would argue, anything inherently racist about being made nervous by a young black man who is emulating the rapper's dress with his line of clothing and constantly mouthing his lyrics. I'd be nervous whether I saw Eminem or Snoop Dogg in my restaurant. (One's white and one's black, and no I don't like rap.)
c) I think the question wasn't even real. Who the hell says "chambered in nine millimeters?"
b) There is absolutely nothing (inherently) racist about being "made nervous" by an actual hip-hop personality who may have rapped about violence. Nor, I would argue, anything inherently racist about being made nervous by a young black man who is emulating the rapper's dress with his line of clothing and constantly mouthing his lyrics. I'd be nervous whether I saw Eminem or Snoop Dogg in my restaurant. (One's white and one's black, and no I don't like rap.)
c) I think the question wasn't even real. Who the hell says "chambered in nine millimeters?"
Smith
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The argument the fashion guy presented has to be the weakest one around. First off, the Founding Fathers were not stupid. They knew technological advances would come in the field of firearms. Their reason for including the right to keep and bear arms was a defense against a tyrannical government, so it would only make sense that they would want the people armed with the most up-to-date weaponry available. It's also kinda funny that you can't even legally carry revolutionary war era weaponry today in many areas anyway. Second, how about we apply the same thinking to the other amendments? Should we, the citizens, only be permitted to use a printing press while the government has free reign over the tv, radio, and internet? It amazes me every time I hear someone bring up this argument. And that was some nice writing there, Restorer. lol
The other possibility is that he asked something else, since it said "packing advice," and they could have changed the last sentence of his letter. Like from "what kind of pants should I wear with slightly baggy dress shirts." I suspect the fashion guy would have been equally mortified though...
misANTHrope
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BReilley said:
Um, how was the submitted question not answered? The question was how GQ felt about concealed weapons. The answer explained how the writer felt about concealed weapons. Seems like the only way he could have better answered the question would have been to poll the entire staff.
yesit'sloaded
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I thought everyone knew that the only thing to wear with a tux was a stainless 1911 or Walther PPK.
I read the article. Aside from an occasional photospread of a scantily-clad really beautiful supermodel, the magazine is a monthly example of everything that is gone wrong with our nation.
Having said that, the author is entitled to his opinion, and the readers are entitled to spend their money elsewhere.
Having said that, the author is entitled to his opinion, and the readers are entitled to spend their money elsewhere.
Brian Dale
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Okay, first: Italian shoes with a Beretta; boots with a 1911; a Colt 1903 with formal wear.
Restorer hit it.
I don't ask my plumber for medical advice, nor my doctor for advice on my kitchen renovation. On rap, the field in which hip-hop grew: the original Man from Mars was one of the greatest recordings ever made.
Glenn O'Brien wrote, "I would generally prefer an unarmed population, including John Law and you. I prefer words as lethal weapons."
Well, yes, that would be nice. I would generally prefer a population where everyone was honest and decent, in which I could read all day with occasional breaks for socializing with witty, attactive members of *insert your preference here*, but we haven't created that world yet. I imagine that John Law would prefer the same thing.
Hey, we all have a brain fart now and then.
Restorer hit it.
I don't ask my plumber for medical advice, nor my doctor for advice on my kitchen renovation. On rap, the field in which hip-hop grew: the original Man from Mars was one of the greatest recordings ever made.
Glenn O'Brien wrote, "I would generally prefer an unarmed population, including John Law and you. I prefer words as lethal weapons."
Well, yes, that would be nice. I would generally prefer a population where everyone was honest and decent, in which I could read all day with occasional breaks for socializing with witty, attactive members of *insert your preference here*, but we haven't created that world yet. I imagine that John Law would prefer the same thing.
Hey, we all have a brain fart now and then.
hankdatank1362
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Clever. You know, we do have some brothers and sisters on this site that may not practice the same sexual orientation that you do right?
jaholder1971
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True, but GQ caters to metrosexuals. They're pretty much hated by everyone.
Restorer
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Oh, I don't think I actually hate them. I've got more important things to hate; I have to ration. Deep within most metros lies a man. A good prolonged dose of testosterone might cause him to grow a pair.
Aha! That could force a mutation. The dawn of MachoMetro-Man.
A man like that we mere men might ask with all confidence questions like ..."If I had to cap that thug sitting in front of the red flocked wallpaper, should I go for a head shot to create an interesting abstract art pattern or should I be considerate of his dining partners and put two in the torso? BTW, I'll be shooting 9mm 147gr JHP's, so take that into consideration when thinking of abstract art splatters."
Aha! That could force a mutation. The dawn of MachoMetro-Man.
A man like that we mere men might ask with all confidence questions like ..."If I had to cap that thug sitting in front of the red flocked wallpaper, should I go for a head shot to create an interesting abstract art pattern or should I be considerate of his dining partners and put two in the torso? BTW, I'll be shooting 9mm 147gr JHP's, so take that into consideration when thinking of abstract art splatters."
Look folks, I'm 37 and my wife and mom still pick out my clothes for me. Seeing as we went through this most recently over the July 4th weekend I'm not that out of style, but my wife was still horrified at the color (light blue) of the most recent pair of jeans I bought.
Having said that, let's back off on attacks on people who chose to look good. Or who choose to mold the perception of people who meet them by choosing methods of dress and grooming that convey they image they're trying to project.
I'm not one to shave my body hair, but I probably will if I ever get a sexy body again (if only because my wife isn't a fan of hair -- personally I don't care if I don't itch). I'm happy to wear fashionable clothes, provided I don't have to research it first. I'm happy to look and smell pleasing to others.
These are all good things. The fact that someone values these attributes more than you are I do isn't any reason to poke fun. Not unless we're also going to poke fun at people who think a big-block and a quarter-mile track is all that's important in "racing" (hint: most roads have curves in them, and most of them even turn right sometimes!), or at people who think select-fire silenced weapons are a reasonable investment, or people who weren't fortunate enough to be born right-handed...
Having said that, let's back off on attacks on people who chose to look good. Or who choose to mold the perception of people who meet them by choosing methods of dress and grooming that convey they image they're trying to project.
I'm not one to shave my body hair, but I probably will if I ever get a sexy body again (if only because my wife isn't a fan of hair -- personally I don't care if I don't itch). I'm happy to wear fashionable clothes, provided I don't have to research it first. I'm happy to look and smell pleasing to others.
These are all good things. The fact that someone values these attributes more than you are I do isn't any reason to poke fun. Not unless we're also going to poke fun at people who think a big-block and a quarter-mile track is all that's important in "racing" (hint: most roads have curves in them, and most of them even turn right sometimes!), or at people who think select-fire silenced weapons are a reasonable investment, or people who weren't fortunate enough to be born right-handed...
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GQ ha
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Why would you ask a style writer about his view about concealed weapons? That makes no sense to me. Is he an expert or a lawyer or a sociologist?
If you wanted to ask him anything, ask him to recommend a tailor that knows how to make extra room under the suit coat for the concealed handgun.
If you wanted to ask him anything, ask him to recommend a tailor that knows how to make extra room under the suit coat for the concealed handgun.
whosyrdaddy
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From that, he gets this:
Ladies and Gentleman, I present to you:
Prince Yamato
the next Democratic nominee for The Supreme Court Of The United States.
the next Democratic nominee for The Supreme Court Of The United States.
Prince Yamato
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Look, there actually ARE rules as to how to dress, so as not to look like a walking wreck. There is also specific attire for hunting (hint: our European counterparts don't wear mossy oak). This is why I also cited the British edition of the magazine, which applies the same clothier snobbery to shooting fashion. I know some of you shun the world of fashion, but would you really like to stick out like a sore thumb? Our purpose is to normalize open and concealed carry. The fact that such a question was even printed in a leading men's fashion magazine clearly means that gun carry is pretty common.
Also, how does reading GQ make me gay and/or a Democrat?
Restorer
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**Also, how does reading GQ make me gay and/or a Democrat?
It obviously doesn't. It's called guilt by association. We (the pro-gun community) are as guilty of stereotyping as are the loons on the other side of the blanket. Whatever is not "us" is "them". I see no contradiction in being a strong gun and CC proponent as well as being fashion conscious. It's just a matter of keeping perspective. I can take reasonably good care of my body and dress well without buying into the narcissistic "GQ lifestyle."
Maybe someday they'll have a column on something like "How to deal with GSR on your French cuffs." The point being that they wouldn't be prejudiced against gun carry, but rather would try to deal with practical issues from a style standpoint. F'instance, if I were going to be forced to go somewhere in an Armani suit (unlikely), I would definitely appreciate a GQ review of the new Ruger micro .380 and advice on concealing it in an expensive suit.
Like this place, it's a question of posing a question in the proper forum. At this point in time, GQ ain't the proper forum for firearms advise. And no, I won't trust Guns and Ammo magazine to recommend a nice Polo shirt, either.
It obviously doesn't. It's called guilt by association. We (the pro-gun community) are as guilty of stereotyping as are the loons on the other side of the blanket. Whatever is not "us" is "them". I see no contradiction in being a strong gun and CC proponent as well as being fashion conscious. It's just a matter of keeping perspective. I can take reasonably good care of my body and dress well without buying into the narcissistic "GQ lifestyle."
Maybe someday they'll have a column on something like "How to deal with GSR on your French cuffs." The point being that they wouldn't be prejudiced against gun carry, but rather would try to deal with practical issues from a style standpoint. F'instance, if I were going to be forced to go somewhere in an Armani suit (unlikely), I would definitely appreciate a GQ review of the new Ruger micro .380 and advice on concealing it in an expensive suit.
Like this place, it's a question of posing a question in the proper forum. At this point in time, GQ ain't the proper forum for firearms advise. And no, I won't trust Guns and Ammo magazine to recommend a nice Polo shirt, either.
Dravur
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wow...
a GQ "style" guy who is uneasy about guns.....
Stop the presses...
my surprise knows no bounds. What's next, the Editor of the New York times is an anti? Writers for New Yorker Magazine turn out to be antis?
I think this is about as surprising as finding out Rosie O'Donnell is fat. A giant DUH comes to mind.
a GQ "style" guy who is uneasy about guns.....
Stop the presses...
my surprise knows no bounds. What's next, the Editor of the New York times is an anti? Writers for New Yorker Magazine turn out to be antis?
I think this is about as surprising as finding out Rosie O'Donnell is fat. A giant DUH comes to mind.
XDKingslayer
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Any "man" who calls anything other than a woman sexy should have his man card revoked.
Husker1911
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Style Guy:
Mr. Style Guy, shouldn't you be writing your column with a quill pen?
Brian Dale
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JohnL2, "John Law" is just a nickname for law enforcement officers.
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