Grounded police fight

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6JRDBBfvTIw

I want to point out a few things about the video.

Most of us probably aren't LEO and this isn't an LEO forum but the interesting takeaways are that the suspect, who probably has no formal training in BJJ, nonetheless gives the cop a run for his money. He hip escapes early in the vid, sweeps the cop, and repeatedly assumes the defensive closed guard position.

It is pretty clear (and after discussing this with some more experienced BJJ/MA guys they agree) that while neither of these people (perp on ground, cop on top) are very experienced with "ground fighting," probably neither regularly trains formally, we see fundamental BJJ positions: mount, guard, knee on belly.

The cop prevails but was in a few sticky spots: he got swept early on and makes some bad technical mistakes later on. His inability to resolve the situation quickly leads to being exposed to multiple unfriendly unknowns who luckily do not take advantage of his task fixation.


The cop in the video probably had some grounded DT training and luckily prevails or holds out long enough for help, but if he hadn't had some degree of training I suspect he would have been in big trouble. Likewise if his (smaller, less trained) opponent hadn't utilized some effective basic fundamentals (even if sloppily), he probably would have prevailed much sooner.

The MMA/BJJ stuff is very effective, even if learned by a thug or BG in "backyard UFC" or just by watching TV. This is probably what happened to George Zimmerman. I think that as the basic knowledge of these techniques spreads further and further (and "downward" if you like, into unsavory circles) it will become more and more mandatory to know how to handle yourself through some regular formal BJJ training. Kind of like an arms race...

A lot of people might find themselves in big trouble if they were physically assaulted by the guy who here is on the bottom. His rudimentary technique would be pretty effective against a totally untrained person, and moreso if he were the aggressor and the defender was on the bottom instead.

Thoughts?
 
MMA/BJJ whatever.
I think if that was Zimmerman's problem dealing with Trayvon it would be because that a lot of people from this present day generation just plain dont know how to fight because of the way in which they are raised and the fact that fighting in school will get you in a legal jam unlike the days of the 1960's or 70's.
There is a real mindset out there that no longer wants to see young men involved in anything resembling physical fighting.
 
A defending citizen has no business trying to stay on top of anyone; we do not discuss Zimmerman; and fighting will get you into a "legal jam" anywhere.
 
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