The Glockodile
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Yeah!
Attract them to the sport via 4H avenues first!
Rather than breeding a new generation of hideous warrier monstrotacticulosities...
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Yeah!
Attract them to the sport via 4H avenues first!
Rather than breeding a new generation of hideous warrier monstrotacticulosities...
Roknstevo
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So have the lowly 30-‘06 and .303 Enfield......This cartridge is just another in a long line of........cartridges. Just the facts. I’m not trying to denigrate, just refine a bit.
Roknstevo
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Unless you’re named “New Jersey”.......
CraigC
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That one grates on my nerves. I don't think the definition has evolved, people just use it wrong.
entropy
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Ahhhmm....prone is one of the positions required for 4-H Rifle to achieve. So I taught it. Yes, even the BB guns. (Requirement is waived if the kid can't get into the position.) There is a lot more to "sniper tactics" than just prone shooting. Was he teaching fieldcraft? Wind doping? using mils for ranging? camouflaging techniques? Just teaching prone is not teaching "sniper tactics".
Our 4-H kids found out that prone is the most stable position of the three (well, four) used: Offhand (Sporting or Competition-two different styles) Kneeling supported, and Prone. We relate the positions as to uses in hunting. Even the most "soccer mom" of the moms didn't object to the prone position.
And here I was told (By Col. Bella) that the Boy Scouts was "an elite paramilitary organization."
Riomouse911
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I’ve run into the cool gun-guy ‘tude at work, in training classes, in gun stores from the staff, from customers buying guns and from hangers-on who are there lounging about the counter; on the Internet and reading reviews both in print and online. I try to ignore those folks.
Ive also run into the most helpful, knowledgeable and intelligent people in the same places. I try to learn from these folks.
Stay safe.
Ive also run into the most helpful, knowledgeable and intelligent people in the same places. I try to learn from these folks.
Stay safe.
earlthegoat2
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If a conversation about guns springs up around me, I do my best to be the dumbest guy in the room on the subject.
It is quite amusing what gets thrown around.
Dunning and Kruger need to do a study on as the level of knowledge of a subject one has increases, how likely is said person going to be willing to share it.
In face to face to face interactions I do not like revealing any of my knowledge. Guns, cars, etc. It might be from being a mechanic. Once someone finds out you are a mechanic, for some reason your life becomes more complicated.
It is quite amusing what gets thrown around.
Dunning and Kruger need to do a study on as the level of knowledge of a subject one has increases, how likely is said person going to be willing to share it.
In face to face to face interactions I do not like revealing any of my knowledge. Guns, cars, etc. It might be from being a mechanic. Once someone finds out you are a mechanic, for some reason your life becomes more complicated.
Zaydok Allen
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In a room full of calm collected individuals having reasonable discussions, a person who starts yelling will drown all of them out.
I rarely talk to anyone about anything I have opinions about anymore. I just don't care at this point. I've done my research, I look at ballistics tests, I make my own choices.
If I see inaccurate information being spread around I try to correct it by sharing good info. The internet is a gross place, and there are gross gun owners out there. There's lots of good people though too.
Shanvanvocht
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Ah, but Yamato had 46cm (18.1") and Montana would have had 18" if the class had not been cancelled.
entropy
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Not really. People ask me all the time if I will work on their guns. I answer with, "I only work on my own and family's, and a few very close friends." If they had to ask the question they are not in that group.
Since I hate working on vehicles, it's a flat out NO. Except possibly SWMBO, and even sometimes then I tell her there are things I can't do that I can. And as I age, that list gets bigger.
And all 18 of those 46cm guns have been submerged in salt water for the last 75-76 years. Guns were probably never completed for the Shinano, after it's conversion to a carrier. The specification for BB67-1 and class was 12 16 in/50 Mk7's, giving it more main battery than the Yamato class, but not as large of guns.
There is one 18"/48 Mk A development gun on display at Dahlgren, but the spec for the Montana class was still 16"/50 Mk7. 1
Had carrier power not been successful as it was, and the war gone longer, it might have had 18"/48 guns.
1. http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_18-48_mk1.php
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Jim Watson
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This thread's High Road has spared a poster on another thread correction on a couple of technicalities he probably doesn't care about. I mean, it is not something important like deprecating "clip."
CryptKeeper5
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Oh if you could only see the trail of "trash" we left in our wake between Pearl and the Straits of Juan De Fuca when my ship was heading in to be decommissioned!lol!
Shanvanvocht
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You mean like when hey ask you to come to their house and do the job for less than you just quoted them at the shop?
Poper
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My AFSC was "General Purpose Vehicle Mechanic". You can only imagine how many guys would ask me to fix their cars in my off time. I did ONE TIME. That was in 1978 and the guy still owes me the $35 labor charge for the valve job I did on his 1971 Ford Maverick. Thank goodness I was smart enough not to put any of my money into any parts or machine shop work!
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
Same here. When I had a "regular job", I hated it when I got fingered as the "gun guy" and then had to listen to hours of chest thumping about somebody's 7mmMag. I keep to myself in gun shops and I hate it when another customer asks or makes a comment about something I'm getting in to transfer. I may sound like a pretentious jerk for saying this and I would never be rude to a curious stranger but I don't like engaging people who know very little about guns and gun shops are full of them.
Poper
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Ain't that the truth!! Most of them customers and sometimes they stand behind the counter looking down their noses at the occasional customer that DOES have a working knowledge about our hobby.
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
I was referring more to customers in the present context. I worked in a gun shop in the mid `90's and we had some real turds. I've encountered a lot more over the years. The guys that work at my favorite shops now are very good.
Poper
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I understand.
I was thinking more about one of the local shops in Tempe, AZ where new customers are often considered a nuisance. Went to pick up a Gunbroker purchase in person and I felt like a turd in a punch bowl. I became Public Enemy #1 when I refused to pay for and accept the firearm because of undisclosed stock damage and shoddy repair. I have lived in the greater Phoenix Metro area for 35+ years and that was the first and only time I set foot in the place.
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RetiredUSNChief
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As it turned out, the Yamato class had a pretty severe allergy to bombs and torpedos that her 18" guns couldn't cure!
BlueHeelerFl
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IMO a large percentage of the people on any FB group are trolls that have no real interest in the group's topic and are just there to cause fights
Barry the Bear
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I can appreciate old muscle cars but I prefer the utility and ruggedness of a truck or jeep
I can appreciate the advances in technology of a digital clock vs having to take a few seconds on reading a Roman numeral watch setup to tell time.
in this same way I can appreciate and even own striker fired pistols and ARs, but my heart belongs to revolvers and lever actions. It is my view that like with everything, gun guys are into different subsets and shouldn't be labeled as one end all be all. Hunting with my brother and his friend last week, they were lamenting the fact neither of them brought pistols and only shotguns. Mike, his friend said I didn't bring one cause YOU did. Then we debated the merits of pistol deer hunting and me stating that a good .44 spl will do the trick, they stated that it would be ineffective, I qoutef Elmer Keith and they had no idea who that was, my brother chimed in with "No one cares who that is" I said you should since neither of you brought handguns and his cartridge development is what is protecting you besides shotguns and birdshot
I can appreciate the advances in technology of a digital clock vs having to take a few seconds on reading a Roman numeral watch setup to tell time.
in this same way I can appreciate and even own striker fired pistols and ARs, but my heart belongs to revolvers and lever actions. It is my view that like with everything, gun guys are into different subsets and shouldn't be labeled as one end all be all. Hunting with my brother and his friend last week, they were lamenting the fact neither of them brought pistols and only shotguns. Mike, his friend said I didn't bring one cause YOU did. Then we debated the merits of pistol deer hunting and me stating that a good .44 spl will do the trick, they stated that it would be ineffective, I qoutef Elmer Keith and they had no idea who that was, my brother chimed in with "No one cares who that is" I said you should since neither of you brought handguns and his cartridge development is what is protecting you besides shotguns and birdshot
45/30-06OKIE
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Wait till you show the 6.5 ManBun guys the 6.5x55 Swede and say that it's literally the same thing only better because it's from 1890 and has put food on the table of Scandinavian families for generations. And the Swedish Mausers just look cool too!
45/30-06OKIE
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Go Red Legs!! Dad was an artilleryman and I got to fire a 155mm blank once and they are about 1/3 charge of a full load and it was still loud when you were right behind it pulling the cord.
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