Gun-Mounted Laser as Deterrent
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The Annoyed Man
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A friend of mine who lives in a second floor apartment has a laser light mounted on an AR. One night, a guy parks his truck right below my friend's apartment and starts playing his truck stereo real loud. This is somewhere around 1:30 or 2:00 a.m. My friend wakes up, goes down stairs twice to ask the guy to either shut off the stereo or leave. The guy refuses both times. After the second time, my friend goes out on his balcony with his AR and points the laser beam through the truck's window and illuminates the stereo console with it. The guy in the truck sees the red dot, looks up and sees my friend standing up there with the AR pointed at his stereo. He reaches over real quick and shuts it off. Peace reigneth in the neighborhood. My friend goes back to bed.
What he did was probably illegal as hell, but it worked, and the other guy never complained to anybody about it. I imagine that, had he complained, the local cops would have simply told him he was lucky he didn't get shot.
What he did was probably illegal as hell, but it worked, and the other guy never complained to anybody about it. I imagine that, had he complained, the local cops would have simply told him he was lucky he didn't get shot.
The Annoyed Man
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BTW, there is a hilarious trailer for the TV detective show, "Monk," in which he is up in front of a bunch of school kids, and they are all shining laser dots on him, and he's going nuts trying to brush all the dots off.
SoCalShooter
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Well if you have the gun isnt that sort of the de-escalation tool?
I actually had this discussion with my gun smith he suggested more practice and using the sights. The problem with the laser is that it could cause the user to be lazy and rely more on the laser than practice. I guess you could be deterred by it but atleast now you know where your adversary is standing with the gun.
I actually had this discussion with my gun smith he suggested more practice and using the sights. The problem with the laser is that it could cause the user to be lazy and rely more on the laser than practice. I guess you could be deterred by it but atleast now you know where your adversary is standing with the gun.
M2 Carbine
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[QUOTEThey also give away your position.][/QUOTE]
In some situations that may be true but probably all the BG will be learning is that in a split second he will be hit with a bullet.
In most cases, unlike the movies where most people get their laser knowledge from, the laser isn't shown around like a flashlight.
Mostly the laser is a pinpoint targeting device that's lit for the split second needed to adjust aim just before, or as, the trigger is squeezed.
Even if the laser is lit, as most people do before the gun is brought on target, the time the laser is lit should be less than 2-3 seconds.
Probably (hopefully) that is not enough time for the BG to aim at you before you shoot him.
Of course this all doesn't mean a thing unless the shooter learns how to correctly use the laser and practices using it.
Got to go. Got some laser practice to do.
In some situations that may be true but probably all the BG will be learning is that in a split second he will be hit with a bullet.
In most cases, unlike the movies where most people get their laser knowledge from, the laser isn't shown around like a flashlight.
Mostly the laser is a pinpoint targeting device that's lit for the split second needed to adjust aim just before, or as, the trigger is squeezed.
Even if the laser is lit, as most people do before the gun is brought on target, the time the laser is lit should be less than 2-3 seconds.
Probably (hopefully) that is not enough time for the BG to aim at you before you shoot him.
Of course this all doesn't mean a thing unless the shooter learns how to correctly use the laser and practices using it.
Got to go. Got some laser practice to do.
Double Naught Spy
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Was probably illegal as hell? You don't know the difference? Just in what manner might have that been legal?
The Annoyed Man
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Of course I know the difference. I was being facetious.Double Naught Spy said:
Robert Hairless
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Laser pointers are available for about $10. No need to have a gun on which to mount a more expensive laser. If attacked, simply whip out the laser pointer, put the red dot on the villain, and say "Begone, thou varlet!" or your own favorite imprecation.
Thy wife needeth good training in a legal and practical orientation towards self defense.
Thy wife needeth good training in a legal and practical orientation towards self defense.
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thexrayboy
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Oh so true. Just as many laws originate as warm fuzzy wishful thinking by social do gooders. Unfortunately laws inspired by literature, wishful thinking or other non rational means only serve to litter the landscape with unintended consequences and unforeseen victims of the legal system.
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Laser dots are of questionable value.
First off, when your adreniline is up, how likely are you to be looking at your tummy, or checking a mirror for a dot on your forehead? The bad guy is most likely to be equally oblivious to his "targeting". Hopefully, he will have bought a buddy who will inform him "Dude, there's a red-dot on your forehead". Also, like using a flashlight, your nemisis can see where the red dot is origionating - IE, you've just given away your position.
That said, a laser dot can be handy to train a new shooter with, so you know where he/she is pointing, and they can index the idea of the muzzle's position being where the bullet will go. And with some shooters, it may give them added confidence in the HD use of their weapon. It also could concievably give you and edge in a dark shooting environment.
I'd say the jury is still out on laser dots, but my cat loves to chase it around.
First off, when your adreniline is up, how likely are you to be looking at your tummy, or checking a mirror for a dot on your forehead? The bad guy is most likely to be equally oblivious to his "targeting". Hopefully, he will have bought a buddy who will inform him "Dude, there's a red-dot on your forehead". Also, like using a flashlight, your nemisis can see where the red dot is origionating - IE, you've just given away your position.
That said, a laser dot can be handy to train a new shooter with, so you know where he/she is pointing, and they can index the idea of the muzzle's position being where the bullet will go. And with some shooters, it may give them added confidence in the HD use of their weapon. It also could concievably give you and edge in a dark shooting environment.
I'd say the jury is still out on laser dots, but my cat loves to chase it around.
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Never
I would never have a laser on a defensive handgun.
NEVER.
I would never have a laser on a defensive handgun.
NEVER.
Neo-Luddite
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I'd say the jury is still out on laser dots, but my cat loves to chase it around.
It's a guilty pleasure--you can *really* wear the poor things out---especially if you have a more than one chasing and they are egging each other on as well.
It's a guilty pleasure--you can *really* wear the poor things out---especially if you have a more than one chasing and they are egging each other on as well.
Oohrah
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Hey Armed Bear, I have a Germain Shorthair that goes nuts
chasing a laser pointer. Thanks to my grandson that taught
her how much fun to chase the red dots, flashlight beams, and
shinney reflections. Great sport for her!
chasing a laser pointer. Thanks to my grandson that taught
her how much fun to chase the red dots, flashlight beams, and
shinney reflections. Great sport for her!
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