"Gun Owners are compensating for something"?

[Mp7]

@Bikerdoc ..... if i ever wisit my folks in Letcher Co KY ... i´ll make sure to hop over
get your infirm, slow and hurting behind an icecold beer

(...and take a peek at all those knives n stuff)

 

[Readyrod]

Gun owners are compensating for an unsafe environment. At least the ones who aren't doing it for sport or hobby.

 

[HOOfan_1]

Natural selection has been picking out individuals who are best able to compensate for about 4 billion years now. Compensation = survival.

 

[WardenWolf]

The only thing I'm compensating for is recoil.

 

[gym]

My friend Kasim Dubar, fought Butch Bell, Bill Wallace, and Chuck Norris, in the garden at an exibition. He won all 3 fights, Guess how he died, 2 rounds from a double barreled shotgun. You can google him, it has some of his fights , with Benny the Jet. Back in early 70's late 60's. Martial arts work great if the other guy fights fair.
Taken from an article on gogle:
On May 10th, 1975, in New York, Aaron Banks organizes 4 championships of the world, crowned by the WPKO. The winners are Joe Hess/NY in the heavyweights, Fred Miller/NY in the light heavyweights, Kasim Dubar/NY in the middleweights and Benny Urquidez/Los Angeles in the lightweights. This show was sold to ABC Wide World of Sport, creating a conflict with the PKA. The latter has also sold its first product at this channel. Urquidez beats Tayari Casel. The latter practice Kung-Fu. It was his first fight in full-contact. Casel spend part of the fight on the ground, from which he tries to strike Urquidez. In this blog, a special article is about this tournament.

It was a punk kid who Kasim threw out of a nightclub, "where he did security", "for some dear friends of mine". The kid didn't like being tossed out on his ass, so he came back with a shotgun.

 

[1911Tuner]

Natural selection has been picking out individuals who are best able to compensate for about 4 billion years now.

Oh, I am so gonna steal that...

My friend Kasim Dubar, fought Butch Bell, Bill Wallace, and Chuck Norris, in the garden at an exibition. He won all 3 fights, Guess how he died, 2 rounds from a double barreled shotgun.

Martial arts is essentially a contact weapon. Ya gotta get close enough to use it. The shotgun had the advantage of distance, and the shooter likely had the advantage of surprise.

It's a little like the knife vs gun/karate kid/what-have you. When facing the experienced and determined blade man, you'll never see the knife.

 

[T Bran]

Guns are tools although they are more complicated than a hammer it is as simple as that.

Anyone who doesnt think that they are nessicary should try driving a nail with their forehead or cutting up a tomato without a knife. So like it or not we all compensate every day in some way.

 

[basicblur]

Martial arts is essentially a contact weapon. Ya gotta get close enough to use it. The shotgun had the advantage of distance...

Well obviously the kid doesn't watch TV or he would know the proper way to use a gun - all the folks I see on TV holding someone at gunpoint always close the distance 'til the gun is 'bout an inch from their target.

Don't you watch any TV?

 

[Sig Bill]

That punk shooter is a coward.

I used to watch martial art matches on tv and it was fun to watch. I remember when Joe "cougar" Lewis came out of retirement at age 40 for a match. His opponent towered over him and I don't remember who won the match (I think Joe) but I remember later the opponent remarked, "Damn, his punches hurts."

I like Jet Li. He's got some cool movies. I got a few in my DVD collection. If you haven't seen Kiss Of The Dragon you owe it yourself to watch it. Romeo Must Die is great too.

Anyway, I rather avoid situations where I can get hurt (nowadays killed duh.) I've been disabled most of my life and now that I'm in my 60s I'm counting my blessings. I keep a gun in the house so I can protect my sis who's older than me. I also carry in my car which is legal but I'm hoping that I can get a cc permit.

 

[GEM]

It's just crappy Intro Psych Freudian analysis.

Progun folks say that antigunner are hoplophobes and demonstrating reaction formation.

Antigunners say wanting guns is a form of compensation and displacement for wanting a bigger male organ.

Both the pro and anti applications of Freud are stupid.

Freud has been dropped as having much explanatory power years ago by much of the psychiatric or psychological professions. Still have some cult like true believers.

George W. Bush and Mitt Romney were or are trying to possess their mommy by showing up their fathers' failures. Same Freudian deal - buy into that?

 

[Skribs]

I majored in psych, and I can tell you - the craziest people are people who are prominent figures in psychology. With that said, I wasn't referring to the male organ form of compensation, but rather the idea that people own a gun because they are compensating for a lack of fighting skills.

Well...hey, I am! I'm not very coordinated with gross motor skills, but fine motor skills like typing or pulling a trigger I am good at. So I play to my strengths.

 

[bikerdoc]

but rather the idea that people own a gun because they are compensating for a lack of fighting skills.

And has been pointed out it may not be a lack of, but a loss of skills, through age, infirmity, or disabilty. There are at least a dozen member heres who back in the day you would not want to mess with.
Today you still dont want to mess with them.

They give new meaning to the word compensation, or better stated "not being a victim" whether it be by aviodance, evasion, escape, cane, knife or gun. They have the mindset and skill set to survive. Just a different tool box.

 

[2DREZQ]

Some vermin have two legs, some have four.
I own the correct equipment to "compensate" both types.

 

[Sig Bill]

And has been pointed out it may not be a lack of, but a loss of skills, through age, infirmity, or disabilty. There are at least a dozen member heres who back in the day you would not want to mess with.
Today you still dont want to mess with them.

They give new meaning to the word compensation, or better stated "not being a victim" whether it be by aviodance, evasion, escape, cane, knife or gun. They have the mindset and skill set to survive. Just a different tool box.

Good point. Very well said.

 

[Fotno]

I've been following this thread along the way, and after some thought I offer this:

I carry a firearm because I don't start fights, I don't commit crimes, and I don't go to places where I'm likely to run into those that do. If I ever (God forbid) have to draw my weapon to defend myself from attack, it will be because the circumstances have forced me to do so. It is my belief that when an innocent person believes their lives are on the line, they don't have any obligation to 'fight fair'.

 

[greenr18]

I'm compensating for the fact I have an aversion to gouging peoples eyes out with my thumbs.

 

[PTMCCAIN]

I carry a firearm, where and when legally I can, because I am compensating for the lack of ethics, morality and common sense on the part of people who would do me harm.

 

[MrDig]

Every time I hear that I am compensating I think "Why yes, there is an empty space in my Gun Cabinet or my Collection.
On a serious note I am in my early 50's and have disabilities, I am no longer a Street/Bar fighter and am incapable if faced with deadly force of defending myself or my loved ones. Yes I am compensating for my physical disabilities if all other options are not available.

 

[btg3]

I've heard it suggested in the past that gun owners are compensating for something...

Sure, no debate on physical compensation via a firearm. But if we examine using guns to psychologically compensate for "something", the discussion would take a decidedly different tone.

 

[mr.trooper]

People that think that way are not living in reality. They do not understand how serious such situations are, because most of them have never even been in a simple scuffle.

In the vast majority of defense situations, whether they be a mugging or a drunk fist fight:
* You have no way to know what your opponents intent is.
* You have no way of knowing for certain how any individual will react to that specific situation.
* You have no idea how or when your opponent will "change the rules" on you in order to "win" the confrontation
* You have no way of knowing who will suffer what injuries.

How many fist fights have turned into stabbings and shooting after someone got their pride hurt?

How many people have been killed outright from simple unarmed blows?

How many times have people "gone too far" in the heat of the moment?

THESE are the things Joe Blow doesn't think about, because the only fighting he has ever seen have been his buddies drumming their chests in the back yard, or Jet Lee fighting in movies.

 

[KTXdm9]

Ah yes, the age old tactic of personal attacks when your argument has no merit. Sadly, the anti-2A folks aren't the only ones who practice it. I'm sure it has something to do with their disbelief that someone would actually take self defense into their own hands, rather than rely on the government to do it for them.

 

[Rubikees]

I am coming in a bit late and it might have been brought up. I know of several Martial Arts Masters that conceal carry.

 

[justice06rr]

Heh heh. That's pretty funny in a way.

Defensively speaking, I AM trying to compensate for something -- the fact that a violent criminal might be stronger, faster, sneakier than me and there might be more of them than me.

Competition-wise, I am compensating for the fact that I can't THROW bullets fast enough to make "power factor" so I won't be allowed to compete if I don't have a gun.

From the point of view of a collector, having a nice gun may compensate for my poor ability to enjoy that blank spot on my wall nearly as much as I can appreciate the gorgeous blued steel and walnut work of art I prefer to hang upon it.

When I go hunting, a firearm helps me compensate for the fact that I can't fly very well, and don't run all that fast, so catching game would otherwise be quite difficult. I also have a stove which helps me compensate for my inability to safely digest raw meats.

My car helps me compensate for the fact that it would take me two days just to get to work on foot.

My phone and internet connections compensate for the fact that my voice is too weak to be heard by friends in other parts of the country, or on the other side of the world.

I also own clothing which helps me compensate for an insufficiently toned physique to be able to go about in public without.

Yup, I'm compensating!

That is an excellent post Sam!

I agree 100%. Not all of us was fortunate enough to have or afford martial arts training. Furthermore, not everyone is capable of it whether due to physical or mental limitations or disability.

The firearm is really the one True Equalizer.

 

[skoro]

In the same sense that car owners are compensating for something by carrying a spare tire.

 

[flyskater]

I know brazilian jiu jitsu and take kick boxing and have a CCW.
I knew a guy in high school who won several awards in karate championship and he got shot at a gas station and ended up dying.

Also wanted to add: We all know the OJ Simpson ordeal. Ronald Goldman was a 3rd degree black belt in karate.