Gun Safe question?

[Bull Nutria]

Local tractor supply ad for Cannon Wide body fire safe,59x40x24 -- 48 gun, says it has internal media box features: 2 plugs, 2 USB ports and an RJ45 pass thru ethernet. the safe is on sale for $800 regular price $1000

why would one need these media box features inside a freaking gun safe? I am not a techy, please explain as this has me baffled??

so you can lock a computer in there and have it plugged in charging?? that is only reason i can think off, but why would you need the cable hook up? You can't crawl inside safe and use the computer??

Bull

 

[rockhopper46038]

These are so you can keep your external backup drive in your safe. With the connection you can do your backups right onto the drive without having to remove it from the safe. I suppose you could also have your video cameras send their images right to a DVR in your safe as well.

 

[a1abdj]

It's another ploy by gun safe manufacturers to lead consumers to believe that their products are suitable for more tasks than they really are.

Granted, keeping your surveillance DVR in the safe would go some distance in preventing the bad guys from simply walking off with the evidence. Safes really aren't the best place for this type of equipment due to the heat.

 

[oneounceload]

Wouldn't that heat help eliminate the need for a goldenrod then?

 

[a1abdj]

Sure, but that same heat is bad for the electronics. That's why the few safes that are designed for electronics have fan powered venting. The addition of electronics is also another potential source of fire within the safe.

 

[enine]

You can run small low powered devices without issues with heat. Mainly for usb drives or simple NAS. I keep my backup drives in my safe. An average gun safe has better fire ratings than a media safe.

 

[2bfree]

Look up "safe alert" All kinds of stuff you can add such as monitor humidity, temp, even send you a text if safe is tampered with.

 

[a1abdj]

An average gun safe has better fire ratings than a media safe.

An average gun safe doesn't come close to the protection offered by a rated document safe, let alone a media rated unit.

 

[enine]

I'm talking about ones you can go buy at the store. My $600 Canon safe had better fore ratings than the Sentry media safe sold at OfficeMax and a much better cost per square foot.

 

[a1abdj]

Here's a Cannon that has been in a fire. Notice the burning that started in the lower right corner and is working its way upward? That's because the big plastic plug melts away leaving a large hole for the heat and flames to enter through into the safe.

 

[CB900F]

Fella's;

The typical "gunsafe" fire ratings aren't worth the time & effort it takes to read 'em. Until and unless you know exactly what the test procedures were that produced the numbers, the numbers are worthless. In my professional opinion the only thermal ratings that are worth paying any attention to are produced by Underwriter's Laboratories, or U.L.. However, regardless of what RSC manufacturer's want you to believe by posting labels on the doors of RSC's, U.L. does not rate Residential Security Containers. Yes, you can find a U.L. label next to a fire "rating", but careful examination will reveal that the U.L. label covers entry, not thermal protection.

If you wish, do a search under my handle & you'll find several posts providing information on just what the U.L. test is & why the RSC numbers are worthless. This subject has been hashed & rehashed more times than you'd believe, and the conclusions never change.

If you want a true U.L. rated safe, see me. If you want an RSC, go to the big box store.

900F

 

[Cesiumsponge]

An average gun safe has better fire ratings than a media safe.

There is a reason why no gun safes have a UL fire rating. UL rated fire safes like a class 350 will keep documents at no more than 350F at the safe's rated time. It does that by giving the contents a steam bath. Paper documents remain legible. Your electronics and media will fail.

For computers and media, you need a UL rated media safe. My UL class 125 media container keeps contents below 125F. Its a box-in-a-box. The inner chamber is protected from the moisture released by the outer layer. This is the ony way for electronics and media to survive. It sits in a safe because it offers no burglary protection.

Your electronics and computer won't survive in a UL350 document safe, let alone a gun safe that uses drywall as insulation. It too protects by releasing moisture. Your guns get a nice steam bath without a UL tested design.

Media safes are grossly expensive because of the construction. You get almost no storage room because of the insulation. What you do get is a container rated by the UL to protect data. You can even get them with data feeds through a physical firewall to run a backup drive. You will pay dearly for them though. That's just reality. If you wanted a UL burglar-rated safe, you will pay dearly too.