Gun safe won't open!

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Rubber mallet smacked medium hard around circumference of handle upon final number
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I was thinking this also. for some reason, whatever is stuck and not moving correctly, maybe not broken per say. certainly go with some fonzie taps from various angles and at various times. my first thought was if you can tell right when it doesn't do something, whack the door at that instant with a good size rubber mallet, and it might move the stuck piece and the safe will then open.
 
My understanding is that the OP had the safe open and noticed a screw needed tightened on the interior door panel. He did this and then closed the safe door only to find out, prob from Safe Manufacturer, that the screw now impinged the locking mechanism. Apparently only way to fix this is to come at it externally via drilling hole. Sounds like he engaged Manufacturer and this is a known problem.
 
My understanding is that the OP had the safe open and noticed a screw needed tightened on the interior door panel. He did this and then closed the safe door only to find out, prob from Safe Manufacturer, that the screw now impinged the locking mechanism. Apparently only way to fix this is to come at it externally via drilling hole. Sounds like he engaged Manufacturer and this is a known problem.
Exactly
 
I would call a lock smith, it has too much value for me to try to open it. (I tend to just break things)
I had this problem with one of my gun cabinets because a gun fell over & jammed the locking rails from the inside. Thank goodness it has a lock panel on top because I had to drill a hole in the top to see down into the cabinet & then I could get a wire into the cabinet far enough to push the rifle out of the way to turn the handle.
 
IT IS OPEN!!!turns out one of the screws that hold the inside door cover on got screwed in to far,by me,and was catching the bolt.had to drill a hole in the side and whack a screw driver on the end of the bolt.one whack and it opened right up.WHEW!!

Thats good news! I probably would thread it and put a bolt in it. Just because............
 
... and enough people mentioned alkaline Duracell to
convince me it wasn't gimmicky brand call...
There's actually a reason for Duracell.


Batteries don't produce current (amps, amperage, etc), but voltage. As it turns out, Duracell batteries happen to have a low leak voltage (volts, electric potential,etc).

Leak voltage happens because we don't live in a perfect world, and batteries have internal resistance (ohms, unit, etc). This affects shelf life, and longevity of systems running LPM.

However, because Duracell batteries have such a low leak voltage, systems can run in LPM (Low Power Mode) and stored for much longer.

As for the alkaline factor, those basically tend to have a greater constant voltage. Think of it like a gas tank, the alkaline batteries just have a bigger tank than the other varieties, which we call heavy duty.

Sorry, I'm an electrical engineering student, this is my jam. Don't get me started on the misconception of electron flow.
 
There's actually a reason for Duracell.

Batteries don't produce current (amps, amperage, etc), but voltage. As it turns out, Duracell batteries happen to have a low leak voltage (volts, electric potential,etc). Leak voltage happens because we don't live in a perfect world, and batteries have internal resistance (ohms, unit, etc). This affects shelf life, and longevity of systems running LPM.

However, because Duracell batteries have such a low leak voltage, systems can run in LPM (Low Power Mode) and stored for much longer.

As for the alkaline factor, those basically tend to have a greater constant voltage. Think of it like a gas tank, the alkaline batteries just have a bigger tank than the other varieties, which we call heavy duty.

Sorry, I'm an electrical engineering student, this is my jam. Don't get me started on the misconception of electron flow.

I’ve never heard of “leak voltage” in your context or any other. Is this convoluted way to describe battery self discharge?

Alkaline batteries do have more charge capacity than a carbon battery. But a lithium battery will have much more capacity as well as having a lower ESR (internal resistance aka equivalent series resistance).

I’ve had way too many Duracells leak on me, and I’ve even had new ones (with unexpired date codes) leak out of the package. Lithiums will last much longer than alkalines and in my experience the odds of leaking are much much lower. I’ve actually never had a lithium leak on me, but it is possible…

The only possible issue with non rechargeable lithium batteries is that the cell voltage is a bit less than alkaline batteries. (The cell voltage is set by the battery chemistry and you can’t change it.). So depending on the application you may have an issue where the device thinks that the battery is low.

If you really want to use Duracells, I strongly suggest that you check them every 2-3 months for leakage…
 
@Kawamax The "actual" term for self discharge is leak voltage. But it's not a standard term, it's just what every professor at school calls it. I just went full send with my nerdiness.

But yes, and that self discharge happens because we simply don't live in a perfect world.

I've never had issues with Duracell batteries, but that doesn't mean that it's the case for everyone, y'know? Like in your cases.
 
Leak voltage makes no sense to me. Leakage current would make more sense. Think about it - if there is a voltage, and zero current flows, then there is no battery discharge.

I’ve lost about half a dozen flashlights and almost a radio to duracells. I now exclusively use eneloops (NiMh) or lithiums. I don’t hate on Duracells, but if you do use them - check regularly.
 
Leak voltage makes no sense to me. Leakage current would make more sense. Think about it - if there is a voltage, and zero current flows, then there is no battery discharge.

I’ve lost about half a dozen flashlights and almost a radio to duracells. I now exclusively use eneloops (NiMh) or lithiums. I don’t hate on Duracells, but if you do use them - check regularly.
If you take internal resistance into account, you theoretically have a resistive circuit. Besides, you need voltage to push current. A wire does not have anything to leak, a voltage source does. An open circuit can still have a voltage value, but has no current because there's nowhere for the current to flow. This is courtesy of the electromagnetic fields created by the voltage source.
 
There's actually a reason for Duracell.


Batteries don't produce current (amps, amperage, etc), but voltage. As it turns out, Duracell batteries happen to have a low leak voltage (volts, electric potential,etc).

Leak voltage happens because we don't live in a perfect world, and batteries have internal resistance (ohms, unit, etc). This affects shelf life, and longevity of systems running LPM.

However, because Duracell batteries have such a low leak voltage, systems can run in LPM (Low Power Mode) and stored for much longer.

As for the alkaline factor, those basically tend to have a greater constant voltage. Think of it like a gas tank, the alkaline batteries just have a bigger tank than the other varieties, which we call heavy duty.

Sorry, I'm an electrical engineering student, this is my jam. Don't get me started on the misconception of electron flow.
Stay in school - you have a LOT to learn.
 
There's actually a reason for Duracell.


Batteries don't produce current (amps, amperage, etc), but voltage. As it turns out, Duracell batteries happen to have a low leak voltage (volts, electric potential,etc).

Leak voltage happens because we don't live in a perfect world, and batteries have internal resistance (ohms, unit, etc). This affects shelf life, and longevity of systems running LPM.

However, because Duracell batteries have such a low leak voltage, systems can run in LPM (Low Power Mode) and stored for much longer.

As for the alkaline factor, those basically tend to have a greater constant voltage. Think of it like a gas tank, the alkaline batteries just have a bigger tank than the other varieties, which we call heavy duty.

Sorry, I'm an electrical engineering student, this is my jam. Don't get me started on the misconception of electron flow.
You need to go back and study how batteries work if you believe they don't supply both current and voltage.
 
You need to go back and study how batteries work if you believe they don't supply both current and voltage.
IN THEORY,current is a result of the circuits behavior with the source.

Show me where on the AA battery it shows how much current the battery provides? It doesn't. Y'know why? Batteries do not store electricity, but electric potential. The current , and resulting fields and waves are there because of the circuits behavior with the voltage source.

Capacitors store Voltage. Inductors store current. Not batteries.
 
IN THEORY,current is a result of the circuits behavior with the source.

Show me where on the AA battery it shows how much current the battery provides? It doesn't. Y'know why? Batteries do not store electricity, but electric potential. The current , and resulting fields and waves are there because of the circuits behavior with the voltage source.

Capacitors store Voltage. Inductors store current. Not batteries.

I’m not even going to try to correct all of your previous mis-statements. As an example, note that while capacitors resist a change in voltage applied, they store _charge_ and not voltage. This is covered in a basic circuit theory class…
 
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