Gun weirdness in media

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

In the 1950s series The Gray Ghost there are pictures of Tod Andrews holding a revolver somewhat crudely modified to look like a Remington M1858.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

I watched Dampyr on Netflx a couple weeks ago. It's vampire movie set in 1992 during the War in Bosnia. Kind of like Blade but without Samurai Swords. They did a good job on the guns with AK47's, Uzi's, and Tokarev pistols.

IMI actually sold Uzis to the Serbs back in that time period.

"Carnival Row" is set in an alternate 1890's universe and has some interesting guns on screen- Mosins, Broomhandles, and Webleys to name a few.

 

[halfmoonclip]

In the 1950s series The Gray Ghost there are pictures of Tod Andrews holding a revolver somewhat crudely modified to look like a Remington M1858.

I'm trying to imagine that series being produced today...
Oddly enough, Singleton Mosby's guerillas got somewhat sympathetic treatment from Union soldiers for their more restrained behavior. After the war, Mosby became a Republican, and served in the Grant administration.
Okay, trivia done. It is amazing how the Spaghetti Westerns have changed the availability of 19th century firearms.
Moon

 

[CapnMac]

wherein we actually see the two protagonists load their SMLEs several times from stripper clips- though only one at a time! An Enfield magazine, of course, hold 10 rounds.....
I'll give them a partial pass as one could argue they were just "topping off " lol.

Don't even get me started on that vile "Dunkirk" from a few years ago. The majority of the Enfields in it were rubber

Printed/taught doctrine and actual practice with SMLE (and/or later No 4) is rife with contradictory contemporary information. Like as not, popping in five was faster than all the manipulations wanted to get the full ten aboard (and if three were already in, not actually possible).
SO, at least to my eye, that scanned correct.

Yeah, those rubber duck No 4s in Dunkirk were particular bendy. Traditional movie prop rubber ducks are vulcanized rubber, often over a metal frame or rod. The appearance of those is typically good enough to never be noticed. They are very hard to spot in such films like The Longest Day, Saving Private Ryan and the like, even when used by the dozen or score at a time.

 

[Jim Watson]

Continuity errors when a gun or other prop changes from scene to scene are annoying, too.

 

[JFrame]

My favorite movie gun, Rick Deckards Blaster from Blade Runner.

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A Steyr SL .222 rifle/Charter Bulldog .44 Spl combo.

(Blade Runner) - LAPD 2019 Blaster - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games

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Stay safe.

Yup... In the Hollywood universe of weird, kludgy, and ungainly firearms, Deckard's blaster stands as my favorite also. It would work for everything from futuristic dystopia to steampunk.

 

[Leon tP]

or jump a car over a concrete side rail as in RACE WITH THE DEVIL.
It's gotten worse with CGI.
Movie guns are not an exception.
But unrealistic stunts make the "willing suspension of disbelief" very hard to maintain.

One of my favorite scenes in Race with the Devil is when Frank and Roger walk into that General Store and buy a shotgun. No paperwork, no ID check, no questions ask just fork over the $227.76 for a 12 gauge pump and 2 boxes of 00 Buck and walk out the door. Oh, the good Ole days.

I bought my first shotgun in a hardware store, they were displayed right behind the counter.

These days, the hoops you have to jump through is ridiculous, even for a shotgun.

Btw, this is still one of my favorite movies for nostalgic reasons. Those pesky little annoying Satanist

 

[unspellable]

"Rocketeer" In 1936 the Nazis are packing P38s.
"Zulu" The Brits are packing Webley Mk VIs.
In the original "Manchurian Candidate", a dirty deed is done with a silenced revolver.
Forget the movie title, but in the pre-civil war Kansas trouble every body is packing Winchester lever actions.

 

[GEM]

Watching Reacher, he goes into a gun store and buy some Glocks and a Beretta 92. When he packs up the guns, he takes one and racks it. It became a 1911. Surprise, that's some kind of modular design.

 

[Leon tP]

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In the original "Manchurian Candidate", a dirty deed is done with a silenced revolver.
...

I love that snap-on suppressor on David Soul's revolver in Magnum Force.

You just slide it on and it turns your 357 KA-BOOM into a Volkswagen tweeter.

I'm still looking for one like that.

 

[entropy]

Years ago at Fort Benning i saw a photo from Ranger School, the two Rangers w/their faces all camouflaged, their Ranger caps, they had a dog, in position behind an M-60 machine gun-with the blank adaptor in place. They're painted red.

You've never gone "all in" on an FTX and camoed up? I put electricians tape over the BFA of my A1, it usually shredded off after firing a bit, but it worked for the purpose.

 

[TomJ]

Hollywood seems to have a hard time being accurate with guns. There's an episode of the Hawaii 5-0 remake where they reference a 9mm Glock 29. It would have taken the writers a minute or two to learn that it's the wrong caliber for that gun.

 

[jmorris]

My favorite movie gun, Rick Deckards Blaster from Blade Runner.

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Reminds me of the saying, "Beauty, is in the eyes of the beer holder."

 

[The Night Rider]

OTOH, Chicago Fire had a firefighter seriously wounded by stored ammunition; that's the kind of crap that does us no good.

I am absolutely convinced that they put things like that on television and in movies on purpose.

It's propaganda they're trying to get the idea in people's minds that's storing that much ammunition is unsafe

 

[GEM]

Just watch a war movie and the ships and planes are all over the place. Too many examples to list. Even in modern films - in the first American Godzilla (a terrible movie), Apaches were firing wing guns, which they don't have, instead of their nose mounted cannons. What else is new?

 

[Old Dog]

m no expert on World War I but these girls don't seem to using the right weapons for the period and the uniforms seem slight off for trench warfare.

No uniforms, but perhaps more attention to the weapons --
How about another image from a WWII flick, the awesome Sisu?

 

[The Night Rider]

I was watching an old episode of Black Sheep Squadron the other day. All the corsairs had two 500 lb bombs mounted on their wings and then they didn't. And then they were Wildcats. And then when they landed on the aircraft carrier (without tailhooks, I might add) they were Corsairs again.

 

[Leon tP]

No uniforms, but perhaps more attention to the weapons --
How about another image from a WWII flick, the awesome Sisu?
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At least your pic is more realistic than the one I posted a while back.

Great film btw, lots of satisfying violence.

Sisu is a Finnish concept described as stoic determination, tenacity of purpose, grit, bravery, resilience and hardiness. It is held by Finns to express their national character.

 

[Leon tP]

I was watching an old episode of Black Sheep Squadron the other day. All the corsairs had two 500 lb bombs mounted on their wings and then they didn't. And then they were Wildcats. And then when they landed on the aircraft carrier (without tailhooks, I might add) they were Corsairs again.

One of my favorite switcheroos is when the yellow banded 500 pound bombs suddenly become blue banded bombs once the plane are in the air. Always makes me smile. I've seen a few war movies that have done that.

 

[Old Dog]

I am absolutely convinced that they put things like that on television and in movies on purpose.

I won't disagree. The CSI shows, the current FBI and most especially, CBS' SWAT, shows all have writers throwing crap in the episodes that almost certainly corresponds with the liberal anti-gun bias. Tom Selleck has mentioned he has to keep an eye on the Blue Bloods details, because even the writers of that often pretty good show try and sneak the crap in. Strangely, the former CBS show, Magnum P.I. reboot, that went over to NBC seems pretty RKBA friendly (ironic since it's set in Hawaii).

I was watching an old episode of Black Sheep Squadron the other day. All the corsairs had two 500 lb bombs mounted on their wings and then they didn't. And then they were Wildcats. And then when they landed on the aircraft carrier (without tailhooks, I might add) they were Corsairs again.

Yeah, the '70s-era episodic television shows were rife with continuity errors. Much as I love the story of the air war in the Pacific, that show was not too bad, liked Conrad as Pappy and the other characters, the '70s haircuts always nagged me (I get annoyed easily, I guess, but c'mon, you're doing a period piece and your actors and production crew can't attend to something that simple; the short-lived Tour of Duty in the '80s was the same)... and the day when one of the pilots shot someone with an un-cocked 1911. The '60s war shows (Rat Patrol and Combat, especially) seemed to make more of an effort, but there were probably a lot more WWII vets around then as well.

 

[Savage30L]

I have seen a lot of weird things in the shows & movies involving guns. Like a sniper shooting with the scope caps on or guns that never run out of ammo. But the strangest thing I can remember is a scene in MASH where the north Koreans come running up to a jeep with no mags in their AKs. Why would N Korean solders be on patrol without mags?? I guess it was in California & no one was allowed to have a high capacity mags even in the movies. LOL

NK soldiers didn't have AKs. PPSh guns, and Mosins....

 

[CapnMac]

Was watching an oldie, The Moon Is Down, a 1943 film meant to sell War Bonds, probably most notable now for being Lee J Cobb's 7th film. It's the story of a Norwegian iron mining town occupied by the Germans in 1940. Even depicts the local Norwegian Militia on a feltskyting the day of the invasion. Hard to tell in the all-too brief movie scenes, but the Norse seem to have some form of Krag rifles.

The attention-getting scenes, though were not the Germans carrying rubber-duck KAR-98 (not K), but the NCOs carrying rubber-duck 1922 tommy guns. Oops. They use a Vickers MG to gun down the milita in a dastardly ambush.

 

[Old Dog]

Great film btw, lots of satisfying violence.

The chicks were hot, and badazz... Of course, as an American of Finnish descent, I approve wholeheartedly.

 

[halfmoonclip]

I am absolutely convinced that they put things like that on television and in movies on purpose.

It's even subconscious. There is such a built in mindset, they don't even think about it.
That Atlanta doc show, The Resident, was generally okay, but they threw some shade on the Georgia elections. It was so abrupt that it felt like they changed writers.

Much as I love the story of the air war in the Pacific, that show was not too bad, liked Conrad as Pappy and the other characters

Always enjoyed that show, and will forgive almost anything for shots of the Corsairs.

So far unmentioned, Sean Connery in Zardoz. The Webley Fosberry was really cool, but having to thumb cock it spoiled the effect.
Guessing Connery (the best 007 ever) was trying to shed the secret agent image in this dog of a movie.
Moon

 

[The Night Rider]

I won't disagree. The CSI shows, the current FBI and most especially, CBS' SWAT, shows all have writers throwing crap in the episodes that almost certainly corresponds with the liberal anti-gun bias. Tom Selleck has mentioned he has to keep an eye on the Blue Bloods details, because even the writers of that often pretty good show try and sneak the crap in. Strangely, the former CBS show, Magnum P.I. reboot, that went over to NBC seems pretty RKBA friendly (ironic since it's set in Hawaii).


Yeah, the '70s-era episodic television shows were rife with continuity errors. Much as I love the story of the air war in the Pacific, that show was not too bad, liked Conrad as Pappy and the other characters, the '70s haircuts always nagged me (I get annoyed easily, I guess, but c'mon, you're doing a period piece and your actors and production crew can't attend to something that simple; the short-lived Tour of Duty in the '80s was the same)... and the day when one of the pilots shot someone with an un-cocked 1911. The '60s war shows (Rat Patrol and Combat, especially) seemed to make more of an effort, but there were probably a lot more WWII vets around then as well.

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