Guns,Ammo Sales Skyrocket in New Orleans

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Article speaks for itself.Katrina memories.

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index.ssf/2008/08/gun_ammo_sales_are_brisk_ahead.html

Gun, ammo sales are brisk ahead of storm
by Chris Kirkham and Brendan McCarthy, The Times-Picayune
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:32 PM

On what would normally be a slow summer weekday, the three employees at Gretna Gun Works Inc. frantically tended to a crush of customers admiring the racks of shotguns and rifles lined up behind the glass counter.

Among the patrons: a jewelry store owner from eastern New Orleans with plans to stand guard through Gustav; two uniformed Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office deputies inquiring about additional firearms; and an avid hunter who was in to pick up a 12-gauge he dropped off for cleaning.

"It's hurricane season, you definitely want it back now, right?" employee John DeRosier said with a grin as he handed the Beretta shotgun back to the owner.

In yet another sign of hardened sensibilities in post-Katrina New Orleans, managers of gun shops and sporting goods stores across the area report a spike in gun and ammunition sales this week.

As Gustav inches closer to the Gulf of Mexico, the stark images of looting and chaos in Katrina's wake remain fresh on residents' minds. Fears of property damage after a frustrating, three-year rebuilding process have some considering staying behind and taking security into their own hands.

Firefighters and other emergency personnel required to stay behind are among the more frequent customers, store managers said.

"I just don't think people want to be caught with their pants down, " said Robby Lack of Destrehan, who was walking out of an Academy sporting goods store this week with ammunition for the shotgun and two pistols he owns, along with gasoline containers and other hurricane supplies.

'You just never know'

Lack plans to stay behind unless Gustav strengthens to a Category 4 or 5 hurricane, although he's quick to admit that his quiet suburban subdivision likely won't see much crime.

"I'm not one of those crazy kind of people that think we're going to be at war with ourselves, but you just never know, " Lack said. "I have all the faith in the world in our law enforcement, but they can't be at every place at every time."

Charlie Marshall, a towboat captain who plans to watch over his home in Gretna, had a bleaker view of local law enforcement abilities.

"If the cops are looting, who's going to protect my ass?" he asked.

After Katrina, some police officers were spotted taking basic supplies from stores, and, in isolated cases, items that didn't appear necessary for survival.

Though frustrated after having his purchase of a .22-caliber rifle delayed by a routine background check, Marshall still had several boxes of bullets and buckshot for his shotgun and 9 mm pistol.

"Any man that doesn't stand up to protect their own assets doesn't deserve to be here, " he said.

Limits on confiscation

The right to bear arms became a flash point of controversy after Katrina, when police officers seized guns from civilians. The outcry from Second Amendment activists led more than a dozen states -- including Louisiana -- to pass laws restricting local officials from confiscating firearms during disasters.

Louisiana requires a concealed-handgun license, but no permits for other guns purchased in the state.

Before selling a gun, dealers in the state are required to run the purchaser's name through the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check system. Within seconds, the system tells dealers whether the person can purchase a gun, or if more information is needed.

The FBI collects those inquiries on a statewide basis, so no data for the New Orleans area was available. This month, there have been 16,968 inquiries throughout the state, compared with 17,062 for August 2007.

Corporate spokeswomen at both Academy Sports and Outdoors and Wal-Mart declined to comment on the rate of firearms or ammunition purchases this week. But traffic through the ammunition aisles at the West Bank Academy was brisk, and lines at the gun counter remained steady this week.

Kevin Griffin, a manager at the Jefferson Gun Outlet in Metairie, said crowds in the store this week resembled the first day of hunting season. Even though the storm's path is still up in the air, residents are buying ammunition just like necessities such as batteries and water, he said.

"It's just like any other hurricane supply, " Griffin said. "People are getting ready."

Inside the dimly lit, wood-paneled Gretna Gun Works, a 60-year-old mainstay for new and antique firearms near the Gretna riverfront, workers have seen nearly a twofold increase in business this week. A black-and-white framed photo of former Sheriff Harry Lee, surrounded by two stuffed pheasants, looked down on the store workers as they enjoyed a rare pause in business.

DeRosier stood in front of a bumper sticker that read, "Gun control means using both hands, " as he matter-of-factly gave his analysis of looting after Katrina.

"They didn't break in where the people had shotguns, " he said.

Chris Kirkham can be reached at [email protected] or 504.826.3786. Brendan McCarthy can be reached at [email protected] or 504.826.3301.
 
And so it's not a reaction to all the Republicans headed into the area for the convention? :D
 
Yes and let's hope many of the police officers won't abandon their jobs if Gustav is bad this time, either!
 
I think this speaks most loudly on two points:
1) A large number of people believe firearms are valuable for defense and times when LE is not present. This is good.
2) Another large number of people fail to plan ahead for entirely predictable risks. Anyone who did wouldn't have reason to buy more guns or ammo a day before the hurricane hits. I'll bet most THR members wouldn't have any need to do so.
 
They are not allowing anyone to stay in their homes, you either leave town or go to one of their assigned shelters.Ray doesn't want any interference with the police and national guard as they loot the city!
 
I wonder how this whole deal will play out if the governor orders the evacuation of NO? Hence no body should be there period?

Maybe someone can answer this but are evacuations mandatory if so directed by the governor?

Sales appear to be about the same as last year, but I suspect ammunition sales are brisk.
 
I thought they said there would be no shelters and if you stayed behind you were on your own.
On your own is on your own. A case of ammo and a utility rifle is a sound investment if you are not below sea level or in the surge zones.

If you are in the low areas, the money would be better spent on contingency expenses related to evacuation. If you are not, more power to you!

Someone in the upcountry told me they were stocking up on beer! They are not in the evacuation zone, but I imagine most of the state will see significant weather. Everyone will be hunkered down for the storm and not much will happen anywhere until after he passes. Everyone's needs differ :).
 
Someone in the upcountry told me they were stocking up on beer!

MOST people I saw in the grocery store today were stocking up on beer and charcoal. The day after the storm, SOP is grill all the meat and have a cold one after cutting up trees all day.
 
I am a firm believer that there are places on earth where people should not live. That low country is one of them.

+1 That's kinda asking for it isn't it? I can't imagine why anybody would want to live on a bullseye like that.

That said if it was me I stock up on smokes and sell them after the storm 10.00$ a pack.
 
I feel bad for those in NO. If this storm makes landfall
there it is going to be a nightmare. We have been through too many of these here in Florida. Someone said most of THR members would not need to run out right before a hurricane for ammo and such; I know we are prepared. Godspeed to those in Gustav's path.
 
I can't imagine why anybody would want to live on a bullseye like that.

So you can have cheap gas, coffee and bananas in Colorado.

And good shrimp.

My employer really wants me to move to CO, but I'm resisting. This is my home, and I love living here.

That said, there are plenty of places in NO where I wouldn't buy property because of hurricane flooding - like most of it. Some parts of the city will always be ok, but they are out of my price range for the most part. So I live outside of town - way north.
 
Move the people out, rename New Orleans the Lake Pontchartrain extension and be done with it.

I might be at the gun store to buy more ammo. You can never have enough. But if there was a crowd I could just as easily shrug my shoulders and get by with what I have on hand.
 
Move the people out, rename New Orleans the Lake Pontchartrain extension and be done with it.


Like in Katrina, it may be worth mentioning that this thing is going to hit a lot more than New Olreans.

-- John
 
If the federal government would get out of the business of insuring coastal properties, people would quit building there.

The government caused a great many of the flooding problems with levees on the river and ship channels below NO. Destroyed a lot of the barrier marsh S. Louisiana used to have.

As JWarren said, this will affect more people who live outside of NO. People whose family have lived on their place for 100+ years - south of Houma, these folks could lose everything they have. It's pretty cavalier for people to say... "well they should have known better than to live there."

These are good, hardworking people too, not the few idiots you see in the city looting and whatnot. Largely, they live where they do because YOU like to eat seafood or buy petroleum products.
 
I got my info yesterday on a nationally televised newcast with Ray Nagin the principle speaker. No one will be allowedto remain in their home, it is recommended that those able leave town , those who can't will be assigned to shelters that are considered safe and above sea level.Anyone else found out and about will be considered a looter and treated as such...
 
The FBI collects those inquiries on a statewide basis, so no data for the New Orleans area was available. This month, there have been 16,968 inquiries throughout the state, compared with 17,062 for August 2007.

That's a month's purchases for the entire state?

That looks like one weekend at the Dallas Market Hall Gun Show :)
 
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