H&K WILL build a US plant !!!

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Skunk: The new guys probably realize there's a lot more profit to be made selling HK94s to civies at $1500 than there is to be made selling MP5s to LEOs at $~900, unlike the former owners.
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Good for them, I am more than willing to help pay for their kids' education!:)
 
Well I have one of their pistols, but I don't know if I'm really excited. Will they ever offer something new that isn't a neutered "assault rifle"? Will they make a civilian G36 that is what an AR is to the M16? No I'm not talking about that ugly grey .223 thing that only accepts 10 rounds mags either.

I really doubt if they'll make the guns that we want for the civilian masses. I hope they quit being so PC with their civilian offerings.

On the other hand having a factory here might influence their thoughts on the American market, or maybe it won't. Things could get a little cheaper priced though especially if more of their products sold here. Who knows?
 
You could (theoretically) buy a semiauto HK21 with all the evil features that was made yesterday, federal law doesnt consider a beltfeed to be a detachable magazine.

Kharn
 
I misspoke, it wasn't a conversation between Tom and Keith, rather it was an Official HK Press release that I quoted..

This conversation was between Tom ( aka Hkpro ) and HK co-owner Keith Halsey...
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Just wanted to clear that up...;)
 
Even with a US plant we still won't be able to get HK 91s and G36s behind enemy lines in Kali.

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 
Kharn, IIRC, while the detachable mag issue may count for points against the rifle, the links themselves are regulated as "high capacity ammunition feeding devices". That being said, I wonder if newly mented MG60 links are marked LE and Government Use Only. Doubt it.
 
What does this mean with regard to buying a MP5? Could we buy a newly made short-barreled version with a Class 3 tax stamp (non-FA)? How many of you would be willing to buy a 16" barrelled version? No one today makes a decent 9mm carbine.
 
Rock jock, this won't affect anything. You still won't be able to buy a Post-ban (1986) machinegun..Not unless you want to get your Class 3/SOT ..

If they crank out HK94 type rifles, you could buy one and have it SBR'd... :)
 
Up until 1988 when Bush Senior screwed American gun rights, you could walk down to your friendly neighborhood gun shop and order a semi-auto HK-21. If you felt inclined, you could even order HK's vehicle rings, pintle mounts and tripods.

Vollmer was doing HK-91 to HK-21 mods for many years after the 88 ban, as the end result, even though belt-fed, was considered to be a semi-automatic RIFLE. NOT a machine gun. A quick Google.com search will show you that semi-auto 1919 30 cals, M2 50 cals, and even M-60's are readily available TODAY. All of these are consider SEMI-AUTO RIFLES.
 
Maybe with our relatively cheap American labor, they will be able to sell a P7 for less than $1,200. Probably wishful thinking.
 
Why would HK charge less for American made product? Even American made Bimmers cost the same or more than their German counterparts.
I had read an article in business school once from a German business exec. The point he was making was that there is a perceived quality & value level w/ some products that a lower price just wouldn't support....imagine that, you're paying for value! :rolleyes:
 
The guy I spoke with from HKITD stated that "the reason USP's & such are so expensive is because they are hit with export taxes from Germany, and Import taxes from the US;" in other words, when the factory is built here, and production ramps up, prices will come waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down.

Make no mistake - the brass isn't stupid. They know how much money they have lost because low cost Glocks have become the dominant pistol of law enforcement. They'd much rather make the same profit on a $499 firearm built in the US than a $799 one built in Germany - especially when the lower priced one allows them to get more units out there.

HK knows they have been taking a brutal beating - and with the trend to switch from 9mm MP5's to 5.56 M4's for CQB, they need to reposition in order to keep those checks rolling in. Civilian G36's and cheap USP's means more money in the kitty - and more HK fans.

Kevin
 
Spark, interesting what you said about the civilian G36s. Makes it sound like it's a step closer to reality!
 
This is what I reported on www.shotshowreports.com

"First, I reported years ago that H&K was considering opening a manufacturing facility in the U.S. and it looks like that is moving ahead. Since they do a bunch of work with the U.S. govt and govt agencies this facility will be used for military and law enforcement production. Once those needs are met, it is possible that some firearms might be made for the regular consumer market. It is unknown which models or in what configuration those would be."

The primary location candidate is Virginia.
 
Here's another H&K press release.
HECKLER & KOCH ENTERS A NEW ERA

On December 6, 2002, Heckler & Koch entered a new era with the sale of the company by British-based BAE Systems to a combined group of European investors and long-time company managers.

Led by two longstanding Heckler & Koch managers, Ernst Mauch and Dr. Dirk Holzknecht, the company will continue to serve the international military and law enforcement markets. HK’s new management also emphasized their commitment to the U.S. civilian market.

HK is firmly established as the technological leader in small arms design and manufacturing with such advanced products as the USP pistol, G36 weapons system, the UMP and MP5 submachine guns, and the new MP7 PDW.

"Heckler & Koch is committed to continue building on the achievements of recent years through product innovation, customer satisfaction and the development of leading edge solutions" said Ernst Mauch, President of HK GmbH (Germany).

Guided by Ernst Mauch and Dr. Dirk Holzknecht, the new management group is comprised of a dedicated core of professionals that form a leadership team with extensive experience in product development, engineering, manufacturing, and finance.

The sale included Heckler & Koch’s headquarters and manufacturing operations in Oberndorf, Germany and its affiliates in Switzerland, Britain, and Sterling, Virginia—home of Heckler & Koch, Inc.

Strategic integration in the U.S.A. will be led by Keith Halsey, a long-time industry participant. Peter Simon, a German-born retired U.S. Army officer and experienced manager of high technology firms will direct HK, Inc.'s day-to-day operations.

At a company wide meeting in Virginia, Halsey stated,“Buying the company from BAE Systems provides the leadership with the opportunity to focus on strenghtening our premier market position.We plan to expand in the U.S. and look for HK to establish a design and manufacturing facility here very soon. In fact, we are actively seeking candidate locations.â€

Halsey added,“Heckler & Koch will become a much more American-focused company, and we could not ask for a better mix of innovative new products or a more talented and loyal team of employees to ensure the continued success of HK—both here in the U.S. and overseas.â€
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(Mods: I don't know if this has been posted before.. If it has, feel free to edit this.) ;)
 
You guys are in a time warp, this is old news Shot Show is in the winter, this is August.
 
Mete

This is a old post look at the dates,all are from feb right
after the Shot Show.Schuey2002 found another press
release and instead of posting a new thread found the old
one and added it to it.
 
Worthwhile bump. I personally am happy to hear about H&K's plans to open a plant here, and look forward to any additional info.
 
Hmmm maybe its time to polish up my resume`. I have many years experience in the composites field.

No word on where it will be located huh?
 
Gun-fuscious say:

hey George Hill is moving to VA and HK USA is in Virginia...
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Unfortuneately, that's in Beltway Bandit Territory. Not down near Norfolk in human territory.

Geoff
Who is waiting with considerable tension a decision which may send him to hell on earth, toontown on the Patomac, BS City in the Swamp...aka Washington DC.
 
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