h&r m1

[-Red-]

Hi everyone, this is my first post.

I recently got my first M1 and want to find out if I got a decent deal. It is a 5.560 H&R and the barrel is dated 12-54, so I assume that it would be the original barrel. It has an H&R bolt - 6528287 H.R.A. U. It also has H&R knobs, and that is where the H&R parts end. Trigger housing - D28290-12-SA. Safety - C46015-6SA. Hammer is Win. - C460Q8-1 W.R.A. Op rod - 6535382SA. The stock is in decent shape, no cracks or anything like that but there are a fair amount of dings and scratches. I was surprised to see there were no import marks on the stock. The metal is in ok shape, maybe 75% to 80%.

Like I said, I am new to the M1 game and would like to know what kind of value you guys would put on this rifle.

 

[P-32]

Having a few Winchester parts would indicate to me the rifle had been rebuilt at some point. Is the barrel H&R or a LMR. Either of these would be correct to the rifle.

 

[USSR]

I am new to the M1 game and would like to know what kind of value you guys would put on this rifle.

Assuming a good bore (checked with a throat/muzzle erosion gage), it would be worth as much as $600, which is what the CMP gets for Service grade rifles.

Don

 

[D94R]

$600, sure for the people eligible for CMP. This option is out of reach for more people than not. Though on this board it might sound otherwise only because you have a slanted sample of people from which you hear from.

Otherwise, you can usually tack on a ~$200 premium if buying from the "normal" market.

 

[az_imuth]

This option is out of reach for more people than not.

Just curious, but to whom is the CMP option out of reach?

 

[henschman]

You might get 8 or 900 bucks for it at a gun show if you play your cards right, and especially if it looks pretty good.

As has been said, nobody that is CMP qualified will pay that, but most folks aren't.

 

[USSR]

$600, sure for the people eligible for CMP. This option is out of reach for more people than not.

Oops, sorry. For criminals, illegal aliens, and people too dumb to fill out CMP paperwork, figure $900.

Don

 

[D94R]

Just curious, but to whom is the CMP option out of reach?

I should have reworded that. I didn't mean it wasn't possible for them to qualify, I simply meant that many people haven't.

It takes some qualifications that anyone other than those listed by USSR certainly can obtain.


But, take a look next time you are in Cabela's, or your LGS and ask yourself how many of those people looking at the guns are CMP eligible, or have even heard of CMP itself. I'm betting the number is less than 1 in 100. Those people are the ones who aren't gonna be typically buying the CMP service grade quality Garands for $600 from a dealer, or likely a private party.


So, without pre notice that the OP is talking about CMP Garands, that price is pretty irrelevant. The CMP values don't reflect normal market values.




Think of it as a car dealer buying from auction. What they pay is MUCH cheaper than joe shmoe is going to pay for that exact car from a dealer or private party, unless they get access to buying at car auctions.

 

[Flatbush Harry]

CMP requires that you:

1. be a US citizen, provable with birth cert., passport, etc. Driver license does not count.
2. belong to an affiliated club (org.s like VFW, Amer. Legion, DAV qualify as does active duty military, reserve military or retired military; also Garand Collectors Ass'n))
3. if under age 60, you must have proof of firearms competence (CCW, NRA or CMP match shooting participation history, NRA certificated shooter)
4. meet firearms purchase eligibility requirements and,
5. pass FBI background check

It's only hard for the lazy, stupid, deranged or criminal element to qualify.

FH

 

[D94R]

We are getting OT. Unless the OP comes back and states he has CMP access, or bought the rifle from the CMP, then all talk of the CMP, their requirements, and the cost of rifles from them is irrelevant.

Since he's asking if he got a good deal, without disclosing what he paid for it, I'd wager that he did not receive it from the CMP. Had he, he'd already know it's the best deal out there and his post would be pointless.

The CMP is a tiny section of the market for Garands (and other rifles), let's not detract from topic, the point, and the value of his Garand because some people are able to buy Garands just a bit cheaper than the rest.

 

[Slamfire]

Rack grade CMP rifles are issued with mixed parts. The CMP does this so no person who pays $900-$1300 dollars for an all correct Garand will complain about the $600 all correct rifle their bud got.


I can get these from the CMP at their cost, plus 8% sales tax and/or shipping. http://www.thecmp.org/m1garand.htm $595.00 should be the bottom basement price for one of these rifles.

 

[ulflyer]

Good gracious, if that one is worth up to $900, maybe I should put my nice 1945 all Springfield parts Garand up for sale. Or swap it for a cherry M1 Carbine. Something to think about.

 

[GCBurner]

Good gracious, if that one is worth up to $900, maybe I should put my nice 1945 all Springfield parts Garand up for sale. Or swap it for a cherry M1 Carbine. Something to think about.

Good luck with that; cherry M1 carbines are going for $1500+ these days.

 

[USSR]

The CMP is a tiny section of the market for Garands...

I'll respectfully disagree with that. They are the primary market. You see a lot of over priced Garands at gun shows, but I've yet to see someone buy one there. But the CMP is selling hundreds each and every week.

Don

 

[bryank30]

All it requires is a CHL and a online membership application to the garand collectors association. Pretty simple stuff... I sure hope that the people peruseing cabelas hunting department aren't felons and criminals, if they are they must be out of there minds.

 

[GRIZ22]

Rack grade CMP rifles are issued with mixed parts.

So are Service and Field Grades. Both rifles in better shape than Rack Grade.

 

[-Red-]

To answer P-32's question, it has an H&R barrel and it is in good shape. I saw it at a local gun show and the thought of ordering one through the CMP went out the window lol. I have $800 in the rifle.

 

[ulflyer]

GCBurner...."cherry" was just what popped in my head. I should have said "nearly all correct". I have a number of these nearly all correct and sold a totally all correct Winchester for $1200 at the Greensboro show in Feb. The "nearly alls" usually have the bayonet band and adj rear sight put on in late war or during rearsenal....otherwise they'd be all correct.

 

[Orlando]

Red
If it isnt a Import Marked Garand and If the barrel has low Muzzle ,Throat wear you got a OK deal, not great but OK.
As long as you are happy thats all that matters
Congrats

 

[-Red-]

Thanks Orlando, I am more than happy with. And I don't think this will be my last M1 lol.

 

[ball3006]

For your information, the CMP will be auctioning off some brand new in the wrap M1 Garands later this year. chris3

 

[GCBurner]

For your information, the CMP will be auctioning off some brand new in the wrap M1 Garands later this year. chris3

There was an unissued M1 Garand on the CMP auction site last week, opening bid $3,000. When I looked at it, it was up over $5,000, but I don't know what it finally sold for. I doubt if it will ever have a single round fired through it, which is a pity. I bought my SG as a shooter, not a collectible Safe Queen.

 

[Flatbush Harry]

"We are getting OT. Unless the OP comes back and states he has CMP access, or bought the rifle from the CMP, then all talk of the CMP, their requirements, and the cost of rifles from them is irrelevant.

Since he's asking if he got a good deal, without disclosing what he paid for it, I'd wager that he did not receive it from the CMP. Had he, he'd already know it's the best deal out there and his post would be pointless.

The CMP is a tiny section of the market for Garands (and other rifles), let's not detract from topic, the point, and the value of his Garand because some people are able to buy Garands just a bit cheaper than the rest."

A comment was made in re qualification for CMP purchase, I answered that.

CMP is a major factor in determining MV of M1 Garands, not a tiny part of the market. I am able to buy from CMP courtesy of Uncle Sammy's Flying Club, from which I am retired.

I don't see mod after your name.

Thanks for playing.

FH

 

[chris in va]

I'm betting the number is less than 1 in 100.

I'm a little confused by that statement as well. Considering a large percentage of the male population have been honorably discharged from the military, that alone gets you 80% toward CMP eligibility. All you need after that is join an affiliated club.

Most Garands I've seen at the range are from the CMP.

 

[Ignition Override]

Veterans seem to need a DD Form 214 or such. I lost mine many years ago.
Isn't joining the Garand Collectors' Assoc. enough to qualify, when their paperwork is mailed in with a check?

Just asking, as a friend sold me a CMP 'Service Grade' last year.

It only costs about $25/year.