Had to laugh, 51% Sign @ Love Field

[Double Naught Spy]

From the Department of Redundancy Department:

Flew out yesterday to attend my daughter's college graduation. While waiting on my flight at Love Field in Dallas, I saw this sign on a bar kiosk INSIDE the terminal.



Apparently, it is illegal for me to bring my CCW up to the Texas law regulated bar inside the federally controlled security area that already does not allow firearms.

 

[wiscoaster]

That's how one government bureacracy flexes their muscles and asserts their authority inside the territory controlled by some other government bureacracy. It's all about whose turf that little space inside the kiosk is.

 

[MistWolf]

I don’t get it. What’s the schtick about 51%?

 

[unclenunzie]

It's probably just as simple as being legally a bar in Texas they acquired an on-premises liquor license. The issuing state authority (TABC) provides the signs as I recall. Might seem redundant but it's government

To clarify a Texas 51% sign as above means it is 100% illegal to carry a firearm there, LTC/CCW licensed or not.

 

[jmorris]

I don’t get it. What’s the schtick about 51%?

Texas Law and required, despite the fact you can not carry there anyway.

Businesses that meet the definition of deriving more than 51% of their income from the sale of alcohol for onsite consumption are regulated by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission (TABC). The TABC laws and rules require that these businesses post a 51% sign in both English and Spanish.

It doesn’t just have to be there either, the specifics of the sign are also stipulated.

A 51% sign must be printed in at least one-inch-high BLOCK letters such that the color of the letters contrasts with the background. The sign must also include “51%” printed in red and at least five inches high.

You can think of it like someone checking a firearm, then hand it to you and the first thing you do is check it to be clear. Or fester thinking about our tax dollars at “work”.

 

[CapnMac]

Yeah, TABC required signage.
Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code has licenses for sales at several "levels." So, a licensed establishment might have a "restaurant" license, but derive 51% of its sales from alcoholic beverage sales. If so, they have to have signage to show that.

This then intersects with the Penal Code on firearms carry in that the signage required for the one means not having to have additional signage for the other.

So, if a 51% sign is required by TABC, then they need not post a "30.06" or "30.07" or "30.05" sign, for being redundant.

Just a quirk of the intersection of the various legal jurisdictions.

 

[chicharrones]

I don’t get it. What’s the schtick about 51%?

Simple version: A 51% sign in Texas means that the establishment is first and foremost a bar. It's illegal to carry in bars here.

 

[kwguy]

Ouch. THAT’s inconvenient. In some states, it’s ok to carry in a bar, but you can’t drink, for obvious reasons.

That situation at the airport is just strange

lol

 

[792mauser]

Interesting.

 

[Legionnaire]

That is funny.

 

[Bazoo]

In ky you cannot carry in a place that serves alcohol by the drink. You can carry in an airport in the portion not screened by metal detectors however.

 

[Ignition Override]

Bureaucrats:

Very Big “fish in small ponds.”

That sign is as smart as a possible No Guns sign in Chicago’s John Hancock building. It makes the area “safe”.

All of this reminds me of British Prime Minister Chamberlain, in 1938, waving the paper (with Hitler’s signature) proclaiming “Peace In Our Time”.

How is this different than “Gun Free Zones”?

We just returned from the UK two weeks ago, making the vague connection easier to imagine—-

 

[CDW4ME]

I've not been on an airplane in 30+ years; I intend to keep that streak going.

 

[SSN Vet]

I feel so much safer now

 

[Choctaw]

I stay off of planes and out of Dallas as much as possible.

 

[citizenconn]

I stay off of planes and out of Dallas as much as possible.

 

[22250Rem]

I knew some states didn't allow folks to carry in bars but didn't think Texas would be one of them. Even in NY state I can carry my legal handgun anyplace that serves alcohol unless the place posts a sign that says otherwise; Except in NY City where my NY state pistol permit isn't even valid within NY City. Can a Texas bar owner keep a handgun in his place for personal protection? The owner of the bar & restaurant my son works part time at has a legal 40.cal. Glock behind the bar.

 

[Rubone]

I stay off of planes and out of Dallas as much as possible.

I just stay out of municipal Texas for the most part, only go to the empty spaces...

 

[chicharrones]

I knew some states didn't allow folks to carry in bars but didn't think Texas would be one of them. Even in NY state I can carry my legal handgun anyplace that serves alcohol unless the place posts a sign that says otherwise; Except in NY City where my NY state pistol permit isn't even valid within NY City. Can a Texas bar owner keep a handgun in his place for personal protection? The owner of the bar & restaurant my son works part time at has a legal 40.cal. Glock behind the bar.

Good question. I assume that business owners and management aren’t held to the same standard as guests. I could be wrong, but I don’t have time to research it.

Referring to businesses not located in an airport.

 

[Choctaw]

I just stay out of municipal Texas for the most part, only go to the empty spaces...

Yes sir. I spend as much time in West Texas as I possibly can.

 

[CapnMac]

I knew some states didn't allow folks to carry in bars but didn't think Texas would be one of them

Been part of the Alcoholic Beverage Code since before Prohibition in Texas, come to cases

and out of Dallas as much as possible.

LoL, that's why I live closer to FW than Dallas--them folk is nutz.