Has anyone actually read books against gun ownership?

[mec]

You probably found a paper by Akhil Reed Amar :
http://www.law.duke.edu/journals/lcp/articles/lcp65dSpring2002p103.htm

It appears that communitarians are not all of one mind on the subject.
Etzioni himself talked about the possible use of militias within various collectivist communities as a means of enforcing the common will. This is not inconsistent with the little red book so popular at the time- just so long as the state controls the gun and not vice versa.

On the global field, he suggested coordinated military force to take over governments not conforming to the Communitarian Ideal stipulating that they brough within the fold by overwhelming force and then gently assume a normalized partnership within the collective.

One of his earlier books- pretty much a college textbook he could make required reading for his students was called The Active Society. This was during the 1960s and at that time he was suggesting the methods of Gandi and Saul Alinski to reform society and institute a no-growth, subsistance level democratic community with individuals having government-given "rights" and government dictated responsibilities with the key factor being the government over all.

At that time- he suggested ( shades of the Mahatma) that men in the collectives should use their leisure time weaving baskets and having male bonding encounters . Only later did Etz discover the need for a two parent family structure and substitute bonding with the children for the hippy activities.

The first of the books out after he had invented the Communitarian Movement was called " A Spirit of Community." The manefesto is located here.

 

[Treylis]

I have read hundreds of articles, books and pamphlets by the anti-gun gang. The worst was probably a pamphlet by something called "Citizens Against Guns". Their "demand" was not only a ban on guns, but the summary execution, "without the nonsense of a trial", of every one who ever owned a gun of any kind, and his/her entire family. They also would execute anyone whose ancestors had ever owned a gun. They wanted to implement their plan with a nationwide house-to-house search by the police and military, along with using gun records, NRA membeship, magazine subscriptions, hunting license records, etc., to locate gun owners.

They said that their "scientists" had isolated the "violence gene" which manifested itself in the desire to own deadly weapons, and the only way to "eliminate the genetic defectives from our society" was to kill them and their descendants.

It was so nutty that I thought at first it was put out by some pro-gun type as satire, but I became convinced it was a (likely tiny) real nut group.

That's, uh, impressive. When and where did you come across that pamphlet?

 

[The Rabbi]

I actually got the book 'Looking FOr a Few Good Moms" out of the library. The woman who wrote it is the one organized the "Million Mom March". The book is a hoot. It reminds me of Edward Said's autobiography where every word was a lie, including "and" and "but".
First off, she is not your average mom. She is a well connected, wealthy, politically astute woman. Her "epiphany" came watching scenes of Buford Furrow y'sh after he shot up a Jewish COmmunity Center kindergarten in CA. (Of course no gun law in the world would have prevented Furrow from owning a gun--he was already a convicted felon). She is married to a Jew so she perceived it as a threat to her children.
She calls gun shows "tupperware parties for the criminally insane." She says she went into chat rooms involving guns and everyone there was a racist, KKK'er, etc etc. Z(She must have read the posts on THR ) She says "no one needs an AK-47 to hunt deer," which is true but irrelevant. Her basic thesis is that if there were no guns there would be no gun crime. That is of course true. It is also the mark of a liberal remake-society do-gooder high minded fantasist that anything like that is reasonably within the realm of possibility. It isnt. It isnt even desirable, imo. But deep complex thought is well beyond what these folks are capable of. People commit crimes with guns. If they dont have access to guns they wont be able to commit crimes with them. Ergo, we ban guns. Pretty simple world they live in.

 

[The Rabbi]

I actually got the book 'Looking FOr a Few Good Moms" out of the library. The woman who wrote it is the one organized the "Million Mom March". The book is a hoot. It reminds me of Edward Said's autobiography where every word was a lie, including "and" and "but".
First off, she is not your average mom. She is a well connected, wealthy, politically astute woman. Her "epiphany" came watching scenes of Buford Furrow y'sh after he shot up a Jewish COmmunity Center kindergarten in CA. (Of course no gun law in the world would have prevented Furrow from owning a gun--he was already a convicted felon). She is married to a Jew so she perceived it as a threat to her children.
She calls gun shows "tupperware parties for the criminally insane." She says she went into chat rooms involving guns and everyone there was a racist, KKK'er, etc etc. Z(She must have read the posts on THR ) She says "no one needs an AK-47 to hunt deer," which is true but irrelevant. Her basic thesis is that if there were no guns there would be no gun crime. That is of course true. It is also the mark of a liberal remake-society do-gooder high minded fantasist that anything like that is reasonably within the realm of possibility. It isnt. It isnt even desirable, imo. But deep complex thought is well beyond what these folks are capable of. People commit crimes with guns. If they dont have access to guns they wont be able to commit crimes with them. Ergo, we ban guns. Pretty simple world they live in.

 

[Travis McGee]

There is nothing on earth more dangerous than utopians out to force human beings into some new mold. "New Soviet Man," the Hitler Youth, or our own would be commissars.