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But this thread is about Colt haters not S&W haters...I had an issue with my first S&W if I remember was a model 39, I "disliked it" so much I never bought another smithy and to this day will not!
But this thread is about Colt haters not S&W haters...I had an issue with my first S&W if I remember was a model 39, I "disliked it" so much I never bought another smithy and to this day will not!
To be honest, most folks I know who like and own a few or more Colts are just fine with Smith & Wesson and compliment mine when I bring them out. Even old Big Ugly gets some compliments from the few people I work with who are die-hard Colt fans. But I get lectured regularly by Smith & Wesson fans who for some bizarre reason think their opinions should matter to me about my Colts. It's kind of a strange phenomenon and I'm willing to bet that somewhere, at some time, somebody has experienced the opposite.But this thread is about Colt haters not S&W haters...
Why are there so many gunsmiths familiar with working on Smith & Wesson revolvers?
Practice makes perfect.
Why are there so few gunsmiths familiar with working on Colt's revolvers?
All skills erode from lack of use.
To be honest, most folks I know who like and own a few or more Colts are just fine with Smith & Wesson and compliment mine when I bring them out. Even old Big Ugly gets some compliments from the few people I work with who are die-hard Colt fans. But I get lectured regularly by Smith & Wesson fans who for some bizarre reason think their opinions should matter to me about my Colts. It's kind of a strange phenomenon and I'm willing to bet that somewhere, at some time, somebody has experienced the opposite.
Well, bless your little heart! Isn't that just so magnanimous.I am a S&W fanboy and self-avowed Colt hater and I am OK with you holding an incorrect opinion of Colt.
Taurus revolvers are great too for the price, you just need three of them. The one you're shooting, the spare in your range bag, and one back at Taurus being fixed, rotate frequently.
I'd submit that most of the hate comes from those who've never even owned a sample of one.Here is what I fail to understand. How can anyone judge a manufacturer based on ownership of a single gun or even a few?
And I should've addressed this one earlier: blaming a business corporation for acting like a business corporation? Kinda like blaming a puppy for acting like a puppy and pooping on the kitchen floor...They dumped all over us constituents by dropping all the fine civilian revolvers and autos after they got the big gubmint contracts.
If I’m recalling rightly, wasn’t Colts first big gubmint contract in 1847? The Republic of Texas? I knew PapaG was old but I didn’t think he was that old!And I should've addressed this one earlier: blaming a business corporation for acting like a business corporation? Kinda like blaming a puppy for acting like a puppy and pooping on the kitchen floor...
I hope that remark is not directed at me (the OP for this thread). I would hate to think we were not friends any more....Troll
Heh!
All I've got to say is WOW! In fifty years of firearms ownership, you NEVER ran across someone like this? My hat's off to you!
OK...so I lied! I've got more to say! (I can hear the groans now..."Oh, no...you got him started!")
These people have always existed, if for no other reason than some people just HAVE to be aggressively opinionated and "right" about whatever it is they're going on about.
"Glock Bois", "Colt Fanatics", or whatever you choose to call them, they're everywhere in the gun world, not to mention life in general. And it's not just makes of guns...it's ammunition, design specifics, "how Samuel Colt intended", terminal ballistics, actual physics behind ballistics, etc.
The real question is "how does one deal with them?"
Well...that's the $64 question, right there.
Sometimes it's best just to sit there and nod as they go on, because you know they'll never be open to anything you say. "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." (Good ol' Mark Twain)
Sometimes such people offer a lively debate. I say go for it...because guns are fun, and so are gun discussions.
Sometimes it's an honest discussion/debate over merits/facts/statistics/etc. A lot to be learned here.
Sometimes such people offer lively entertainment. By this, I mean they are so easy to provoke that it's difficult not to poke the hornet's nest and watch all the action. *ahem* Especially when others are participating in the debate. Not that I've ever done this. *blinks innocently*
Me? I'd likely have smiled and nodded at this guy as he ranted. No skin off my back!
Shots (figuratively) fired at both Colt and Taurus in the same thread! Guess we just need someone to chime in with some gratuitous Kimber hate too.
That is correct, Chief. In fifty years of gun ownership I never met anyone with a blind hatred of Colt products. You may consider that statement verified and confirmed. I have known people, shooters, who prefer Smith & Wesson or Ruger. That did not cause them to foam at the mouth when the subject of Colt's Manufacturing Company comes up. So, it was a new experience with me. No, I am not feeling skinned, wounded, or disappointed in any way.
On another forum I am in a heated debate with an 85 year old firearm's "expert" convinced that Colt Manufacturing Company never made a decent double action revolver in their history and are all vastly inferior to Smith & Wesson products. Furthermore, everyone who has ever fired a revolver knows this and only a complete idiot like me would even consider owning a Colt revolver.
I have no interest in arguing the merits of this silly argument but I am curious to know if this thinking has been encountered by others here and how often? This is the first time in fifty years of gun ownership I have met someone so persuaded.
That Executive replied that Colt was selling all the HBars they could produce and it was stupid of me to ask the question. Here is Colt, at the National Matches, selling rifles that no competitors could use out of the box, and yet we, the shooters. were the stupid ones!
No, at the"alleged expert".I hope that remark is not directed at me (the OP for this thread). I would hate to think we were not friends any more....
I am a Colt hater.
Cylinder release goes the wrong way.
Ruger and Dan Wesson must REALLY drive Smith fans crazy.That's what some of say about S&Ws.
Ruger and Dan Wesson must REALLY drive Smith fans crazy.
Personally, I kind of like the old H&R ejector rod pull release. Pull to release, push to extract/eject, flip over to reload and fold to close. Except for dropping in the fresh ammo, I can work one of those one-handed.
Never met a Colt "Hater"...pretty stout words there. I do prefer S&W's for their overall parts availability, and lower cost, and superb accuracy (in the two dozen + I've owned over the past 50+ years).
I've never met a Colt hater but I've met a lot of Colt lovers that hated Colt prices. Nobody would own an Uberti SAA if the Colt SAA was more affordable.
Colt is trying to survive off their past glory: "New" Pythons, "New" Anacondas. These new issue pistols are hugely expensive and we will see if that keeps them afloat.
That's what some of us say about S&Ws.
I prefer revolvers without locks. Pre-war Colts are tough to beat, and IMHO once you get used to the Colt lock up other revolvers just feel sloppy. If you're a competition shooter maybe the less robust Colt action is a concern, but for most shooters it will never matter.