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Blakenzy

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So, after reading a lot of threads on home defense I noted that there are a lot of members here that take measures to insure the safety of their household only in proportion to the perceived safety (or danger) of their neighborhood.

What I mean by this is that people who live in neighborhoods that are supposed to be safe take relatively little and limited precautions because their neighborhood is supposed to be safe. I feel that although it is less likely to be targeted by criminals in a "safe" neighborhood, that does not mean that bad and even terrible things can't happen to you and your own. I am not trying to alarm anyone here, but I think that people everywhere, regardless of the environment, should take certain safety mesures to reduce the likelyhood of a violent attack in your home. After all, your home is the one and only place that you have complete control over, and you should take advantage of it. In the end, all it takes to turn a perfectly safe community into a danger area is to have one or two deranged human beings stray on to your streets.

I personally beleive that members here give too much importance on having a loaded firearm on the night table (or under the pillow)as the one and only safety measure against a home invasion. Having an efective human neutralizing instrument is important, don't get me wrong, however there are other things you can do that are equally or more effective in deterring criminal activity.

A prime example is a dog. If you can, get a dog. A smart one.The bigger the better I would think. German Shepherds are great. A house with a big mean looking dog is less likely to be broken in to. However, even a small dog will alert you to any strange activity around your place of residence, granting you precious seconds to get ready and safe. The main purpose of a dog is to prevent strangers from slipping into your house unnoticed, not to neutralize an active threat. That's what 00 Buck is for. Another example is a good alarm system. Preferably an alarm system monitored by a security company. Even if it is not monitored by a security company, a good and properly set up alarm system will make it quite dificult for any one not experienced in disabling such units, to enter your house with out raising hell. As for the people who say they don't need dogs or alarm systems because the are "light sleepers" and are awake at the sound of a pin falling, well, they are most likely only fooling themselves.

Good locks on exterior doors and windows are a must too. Something that will require force, time and noise to overcome if you don't have a key. And keep your doors closed and locked when you don't expect to use them in the immediate future, even on bright sun shiny days.

Bars on windows are efective too. Now, bars on windows are controvertial because of the fire hazard, but you don't need to put bars on every single window. Use well made, sturdy bars on windows that are not likely to be used as a fire escape. Put them on windows that are small and out of view such as basement windows or rear windows that are hidden from view from the street and neighbors. Also, they may be put on select windows that are routinely left open for ventilation, such as kitchen windows. Chances are that if a crook is looking for a window to make entry through he/she will choose the smallest most concealed window that is available. Make these windows unavailable for entry.

Illumination won't physically stop any one, but bad people tend to shy away from the spotlight if you know what I mean. A well illuminated exterior will make a hoodlum(sp?) feel self conscious. He won't feel sneaky, he will feel observed and will less likely loiter around a bright area as opposed to a dark, shady area.

Keep your bedroom door locked when you go to sleep at night. Even if your bedroom door is a flimsy weak door, it is better to have it locked than to give an invader an inviting open door to your place of sleep. Anything that slows him down and has him raise a ruckus to get through is better than nothing.

As for the so popular super home defense tactical slinged, sidesaddled, surefire mounting, reduced recoiling, night sighted, extended magazine capacity shotgun/ carbine/ pistol, think of that as the last, last option. Try investing a little more on other items that will keep the invader(s) out altogether.

I am by no means an expert, I'm just sharing my personal opinions and views. As a victim of a home invasion (no family members harmed, thank God) I am particularly sensitive to the subject and am sharing some things my family has done to make our home a little bit safer. I look forward to any comments, opinions and suggestions from the rest of you :)
 
Having an efective human neutralizing instrument is important, don't get me wrong, however there are other things you can do that are equally or more effective in deterring criminal activity.
No argument from me on that point. I live in a "safe" neighborhood where our worst crimes are kids tagging the mailbox, but the methods of keeping goblins out of the home are something I've thought long and hard on. That being so, I'm in process of drafting up proposals for my HOAs architectural review committee to reinforce my front door & frame and replace the ground floor double pane windows with something rated for hurricanes. Bushes around the windows are kept trimmed back and exterior lights in working order. Doors and windows are ALWAYS locked when not in use.

Been thinking of a dog, even though I'm not really a dog person. Just a shame tigers or other big cats are not domesticated. My place would be just right for a puma or a couple of bobcats. :evil:
 
Sindawe said:
Been thinking of a dog, even though I'm not really a dog person. Just a shame tigers or other big cats are not domesticated. My place would be just right for a puma or a couple of bobcats.
I like dogs, but I'm also more of a cat person. Big domestic cats might perhaps be even better defenders than a comparably sized dog. I daresay that a 100 lb. cougar against a 100 lb. german shepherd/pit bull/mastiff/etc. and the cat is going to win.

Cats have only been domesticated for an estimated 8K years whereas dogs have been domesticated for an estimated 40K years. Cats are still a bit more wild than dogs, so it's probably good we don't have any cougar-sized tabbys.
 
No sir. Safety in layers.

Family plan for such circumstances? Check.
Good lighting? Check.
Good locks(that are locked)? Check.
Dogs? Check.
Flashlight(with good batteries)? Check.
Cell phone with charged batteries and a good signal inside the house? Check.

And last but not least: Gun. Loaded and ready? Check.
 
Dogs in the Yard

Both of my brothers and my sister have been robbed. It might be my turn next week, but in 27 years on my own it hasn't happened. Oh by the way. I have always had at least one Pit in the yard. They are wonderfull loving dogs. Protective, misunderstood and much maligned. Sort of like my guns.

One made mean by an IDIOT though is dangerous and needs to be shot!

Again, it's the person that's the problem, not the dog.:cuss:
 
Just because I live in a Yankee "Mayberry" does not mean I do not think it cannot happen here. In my bidness I should know better!:uhoh:

I have illumination, Medeco deadbolts in steel Polaris doors and Shatterguard over the windows, pistol and shotgun in the bedroom. I pray every night that I never have to use my guns.

No dog, do not have time for a dog. Would love to have one, maybe a short-haired collie or a Chermann Shep or the like?
 
I think anything we do that makes us more safe is but a step towards making one less of a target. Unless you have moats and alligators, no security system is perfect. Even with moats and alligators, one probably wouldn't employ them unless one had Renoirs and Picassos to protect. However, if one had Renoirs and Picassos, then there's probably someone out there with the skill, determination, siege engines or hordes of Orcs to get in, get them, and get out.

Choosing to live in a "safe neighborhood" probably places one and one's children at a lower risk of becoming the victims of violent crime but might actually INCREASE the risk of falling victim to burglary and property crime. One robs banks "because that's where the money is". Whether he truly said it or not, it has been attributed to Willy Sutton. Safer neighborhoods tend to be synonymous with greater wealth and thus more things worth stealing.

The Manhattan South patrol borough of NYC has 7.2% of the city's population and 29.4% of the city's grand larcenies. The grand larceny rate is 2,396 per 100K in Manhattan South, and the next highest patrol borough is Manhattan North with 597 per 100K. The burglary rate is 502 per 100K in Manhattan South, and the next highest patrol borough is Brooklyn North with 398 per 100K.

I live in a "safe" neighborhood, and my apartment complex is right next to a lot of very high end homes which would probably be a far greater source of stuff to fence. Nevertheless, I did what I could to harden the place when we moved in. Replaced the strike plate with a strike box and 4" screws that hit the studs, screws into the sliding glass door track so it cannot get lifted up and out, and wood dowels in the window and sliding glass door tracks. We also have alarms on the windows and front door, but that's mostly to prevent the kids from wandering out the front door.

I've never been able to find any reliable sources for the claim, but it's been said that 90 percent of all home "break ins" are actually "walk ins" thru an unlocked door or window. I'd be interested to hear from any cops in here whether that claim matches their experience investigating home burglaries.

If it's true, then the simple act of locking one's windows and doors significantly reduces ones danger of being burglarized. Simple and passive acts can and do add up.

A few random thoughts include locked doors and windows, deadbolts on doors, strike boxes, screws into the studs, no glass within arms reach of the deadbolt, professional alarms, reinforced/safety/toughened/tempered/laminated glass in windows (I believe 3M and others sell films that can be applied to existing windows to make them more resistant to breakage), bushes trimmed back from windows such that a person cannot hide there, dogs, suspend your newspaper and hold your mail when ya go outta town, timers on lights when ya go outta town, solid door with a deadbolt leading from the garage.
 
Big ferocious dogs can take down a man sized aggressor--or at least hold 'em still enough for a headshot.
:evil:

Big friendly dogs, like Labs, can look menacing, and even friendly dogs will attack if their master or family is attacked.

A human's senses pale in comparison to any dog's senses, and most dogs will make noise. Even small yippie dogs can make a lot of racket, and that's just not conducive to a successful burglary.

There's an axiom among criminals: Dogs don't care about my rights.
 
Been There, Done That So Too Speak

Guard dogs, state of the art alarm system, security (double dead bolt locked)
doors, motion detectors, and of course loaded firearms in place.

BTW, just one of my sentry (guard) dogs; on the front line, guarding
my free standing reloading barn~!
 

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Dogs are great, I have several sweet animals. (13 cats, 5 dogs, 1 bird). You may want to check with your Insurance carrier. I had my home owners Insurance canceled because of my dog. She was a Rotwieler,and a very gentle animal. They said she was a viscous breed. I got turned down by 2 other carriers before I found one to insure me. Bittie died a few years back, but she never harmed anyone. 110lbs of lap dog.
 
Bittie died a few years back, but she never harmed anyone. 110lbs of lap dog.

Sorry for your loss. That's another thing that's great about dogs: you may love your guns, but your guns can't love you back. I've got three dogs presently. I've always felt better and less alone in the world when I've had a dog as a companion. Plus, a cool dog in the park is a *chick magnet* (at least in my younger days... ahem).

Strangely, my dogs have always been better judges of character than I am. Most people that my dogs like, I wind up liking and trusting. If my dogs don't like someone, I always find out later it was for a good reason. Not sure how that works.

The more I'm around people, the better I like my dogs. :D
 
"The more I'm around people, the better I like my dogs."

I can understand that.
kengrubb "I like dogs, but I'm also more of a cat person. "
I wish I could train the cats to work together. Can you imagine 13 trained attack cats, all hitting at once. You don't want to go through that door.
 
Dogs only work as early-warning devices if people pay attention to them.

My dog, a waist-tall 95 or so pound German Shepherd barks when someone comes into, or too near, the yard. The closer someone gets to the house, the louder, more snarly and frothing-at-the-mouth his barking gets. He also barks at the damn UPS truck, but I'm trying to train him out of that. When he barks, I go see what he is "talking" to, give him his pat, and either shush him up or let him keep barking (a good way to shorten any conversation with door-to-door solicitors). The windows shake when he barks, and at least one of my neighbors will usually poke a head outside to see what is up when they hear him... because he pretty much only barks when he should. He is also a good protector... he gets mighty testy whenever anyone gets too near his family.

My neighbor has a little yappy dog. Barks at everything that moves. Barks at birds. Barks at flapping palm fronds. Barks at kids walking home from the bus stop. Will go on and on and on. Once, when she had been barking for about 5 minutes straight, I walked next door to see what was up, thinking there must be no one home (else why had she not been shushed?). Got half way there and saw the family loitering around in the yard... everything was fine. While visiting over there, my wife has observed the dog barking non-stop without drawing so much as a single glance from any of the family members, much less an interruption of their conversation.

Of course, her barking at 2am might get the family up to see what the dog is barking about, but my guess is that most of the neighbors have been trained into ignoring her. She might frighten off a thief, but she sure won't draw any attention to his presence.

Ken Grubb has given a nice list of precautions. With the exception of the alarm system, that pretty much describes my place. I'll add the need for a "secure" screen door of some sort. Not sure what trade names they go by, but ours looks like a set of bars set over a screen door. Instead of the usual screen cloth, the screen is a light gauge metal filled with holes so it looks and works just like a screen but provides a decent barrier ... hard to describe. They are not unattractive, some are pretty decorative, and can fit into any decoration scheme without looking industrial. That screen door comes with its own locking knob and a deadbolt lock. It allows us to open the solid door and converse with someone on the porch without giving access to the house. The screen door stays locked, even when the other door is left wide open as it usually stays in spring and fall.

If you have side gates to the yard, put a padlock on them. We use cheap combo locks (think bike or gym locker) so access is easy without carrying around a key. They won't stand up to a determined crowbar-swinging thief, but they will likely catch him by surprise and turn him away, or slow him down while he makes a racket. The trusted neighbor has the combo, as well as a key to the front door.

If you leave your car in the driveway, lock it up and remove any garage door openers. We live in a "safe" neighborhood, but about a month ago someone went down the street one night opening up cars and taking portable electronics and, in one case, a wallet. Left the car stereo; ignored CDs; etc, but took MP3 players and cell phones, etc. Hit 40 houses in one night (actually, he probably hit more than that, but only 40 folks were ripped off / filed reports). All the vehicles had been left unlocked. The first clue most folks had was walking out on their way to work and finding the car's interior dome light on... apparently he didn't want to risk noise by slamming the door closed.

Our cars go in the garage all the time. The driveway always looks the same, whether we are home or not. Ditto for the blinds and the turning on / off of a few lights that stay on timers, even when we are home. The porch lights are on motion detectors that turn them on automatically when someone comes within their detection range (that is pretty common out here) .
 
Even the lab-like, mongrelish looking dogs are good if they are protective. I board my horse at a privately owned barn where the owner lives in a house on the premises. When board is due, I slip the check between the screen door and the front door, or try to slide it in best I can through the cracks. Anyway, two months ago I walk up to the door and one of their dogs, a yellow, much thiner than a lab, just basic yellow dog who is very found of playing fetch all of a sudden got up from where she was laying and advanced at me, teeth bared and growling. I told the dog she knew me, kept talking to her, and slowly put the check in the door. I then noticed that their horse trailer was not there and figured that they had gone camping for the weekend (which I know they do from time to time). That dog KNEW that the owners weren't home and decided that I didn't need to be at the front door. And, even though I'm used to the dog (and have known it for almost three years now!) and it isn't what I normally would have considered a mean dog, I will tell you for a few minutes I thought I was going to be eaten alive!
 
Speaking of Home security, I have a motion light on the side of my house and a nice bright on the front nest to the door. I keep the front light on every night, all night. The motion light goes on when it needs to, obviously.

Why I'm posting though is, Why is it that none of my neighbors keep thier front light on at night? I was considering going around the neighborhood with 100wt. bulbs and five dollar bills, giving one of each to every neighbor who was willing to keep their front light on at night. I mean, c'mon, its not that expensive, and if we all do it, then we help to keep our neighborhood safe together, right?

Am I way off base?
 
Most residential break-in's are during the DAYLIGHT hours, not at night! There aren't that many "professional" burglars, but PLENTY of "opportunists" who utilize the easy ways of breaking in.

Dogs? They are great, but can also be poisoned by an intruder. Dogs that are BIG, but actually very loving? Heck, they might LICK the bad guy to death! Small "yippie" dogs? I've seen some that will "yip" if they see a leaf falling from a tree!

Alarm systems? Well, according to statistics, 93% of all alarm activations are FALSE activations. Add to that, if you have an alarm system that is overly-sensitive and continues to activate, you may end up turning it off OR tune it down so that it will only activate if an 8.0 seismic event takes place. If you can find a "happy medium" with an alarm system, they're good to have.

Exterior lighting? Great to have! Interior lighting, too! Of course, lighting does nothing for you during the day!

Make your residence look "occupied" 24/7! Have windows clear from obstructions, such as trees, bushes and walls/fences. Good idea to have "security-type" steel screen outer doors with good locks AND solid-core inner doors with good locks.

Get to know your neighbors! They know the neighborhood as good as you do, maybe even better! Let them know that, if they call the police because of a "suspicious person" near YOUR house, they don't need to "compromise" their anonymity by having the police respond to THEIR house. Also make them KNOW that if the burglars find "easy pickings" in the neighborhood, THEIR home may be broken into NEXT!

Before I forget, put a lock on your electrical panel box! It would be easy for a bad guy to cut off all of your breakers! If possible have your telephone lines coming into your home from the highest spot available on the exterior of your house. Most phone installers find it very easy to locate the main phone lines at a LOW place on the wall....easily cut! Of course, always have a cell phone readily available....but remember that it won't automatically send out your home address if you call the police.....as the "9-1-1" system does.
 
Deadbolts are not worth a damn unless you have a steel door and steel door frame or have taken specific measures to reinforce your wooden door and frame. I was able to gain access to a building with a deadbolt on the door by thumping the door with my hip just once (the cops were with me so no, I wasn’t committing a crime). The frame splintered above and below where the bolt goes into the frame and made virtually no noise. Breaking a window would have been louder.
I am building a new townhouse and asked the builder for steel doors and frame and he declined my request because of association rules. So, I made sure there was plenty of framing behind the door frame for adding reinforcing hardware and longer screws later. I did add a DSC alarm system with glass break, door contacts and motion. The system will not be monitored but I added the capability to have it email two blackberry devices for every event (arm, disarm, panic, duress, etc…). I wired for 3 day/night video cameras which I will tie into the TV for real-time viewing from any room, a DVR for recording and internet for remote viewing.
 
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My "Yappy" dog (Lhasa Apso) is an excellent breed for early warning. They absolutely HATE strangers. When they bark, there's something worth checking into nearby.

Yrs ago our 2 Lhasas alerted us at 4 AM to burglars in our detached garage. (We lived in a "Mayberry" neighborhood and I wasn't in the habit of locking the walk thru door on the garage when we were at home.) The dogs could hear them conversing outside in our driveway. I held the intruders at gunpoint until the LEO's arrived.

Even though we live in an even more "Mayberry" community nowadays, I pay a great deal of attention to physical security and also to keeping a low profile as to my possessions. Got a good safe bolted through the floor, too!
 
What I mean by this is that people who live in neighborhoods that are supposed to be safe take relatively little and limited precautions because their neighborhood is supposed to be safe. I feel that although it is less likely to be targeted by criminals in a "safe" neighborhood, that does not mean that bad and even terrible things can't happen to you and your own.

How is this a surprise? Security is always a trade-off...perfect security can only be had with unlimited resources.

So what do we do? We take measured risks and throw resources at the most likely threats (which BTW, is precisely why airline security is such a joke...we're wasting resources looking for fingernail clippers and hairjel instead of looking for real threats). On the home-front, we do the same thing. If you live in a high-crime area, you spend more on security; the opposite is true if you live in a low-crime area...it just makes sense.
 
Get to know your neighbors!

Hear, hear! Especially if your neighbors are retired and nosey! Another thing on the security checklist is get to know the local police. I'm a part time officer in another town, but I visit the local guys occasionally, see 'em in classes, see 'em at off-duty details. They know where I live and if I call something in they know it's not some ninny in a panic.

They keep me up to date on what's going on, and I keep them up to date on what I know. When I'm working the street in Johnson, we have known good guys in every neighborhood who keep us up to date on what's going on. They feel like they can approach us at any time, and I've had more than one come up and give me good info while I was off duty in street clothes. Home security is definitely a community effort, unless you can afford to stay at home 24/7 and never sleep.
 
Blakenzy said: What I mean by this is that people who live in neighborhoods that are supposed to be safe take relatively little and limited precautions because their neighborhood is supposed to be safe. I feel that although it is less likely to be targeted by criminals in a "safe" neighborhood, that does not mean that bad and even terrible things can't happen to you and your own. . . . In the end, all it takes to turn a perfectly safe community into a danger area is to have one or two deranged human beings stray on to your streets.

Well, one reason we choose to live in the neighborhoods we do is that the riff-raff stand out when it loiters. Unless you are an unfortunate victim of the newer Section 8 approaches to "move the unfortunate" from the poorer city locations to "integrate with the successful", some of 'em have to make the trip to come see you.

Everyone has bad relatives in the family, but an advantage of not living amongst the concentration of criminal population is it cuts back on the chances you'll be a victim of opportunism.


Blakenzy said: Having an efective human neutralizing instrument is important, don't get me wrong, however there are other things you can do that are equally or more effective in deterring criminal activity.

Having an "effective means of self-defense" handy is prudent. Except for the chest-beaters, I don't think any of us wants to be put in a spot where our only method of deterrence is at the barrel of a gun.


A decade ago during a week long community policing course, the theme of the presenters again and again was deterrence, deterrence, deterrence. Someone who wants in bad enough will find a way to do it. Key points were:

  • Lock things - doors, windows, cars, sheds. Things not locked encourage opportunism.
  • Use your lights all night; lights on motion sensors don't deter.
  • Don't make it easy - keep clutter put away, don't have rocks and statues near that ground level window
  • Again, remember most crimes are opportunisitic - it sounds cold, but make 'em decide your place is too much of a hassle, and decide to try someone else's house down the street that's easier to get into
 
Just a shame tigers or other big cats are not domesticated. My place would be just right for a puma or a couple of bobcats.
I always thought it would be cool to have a sign "Beware of Muffin".
 
me said:
If you leave your car in the driveway, lock it up and remove any garage door openers. ... Our cars go in the garage all the time. The driveway always looks the same, whether we are home or not.

Straying a little bit from the thread topic, but the timing is uncanny...

Last night, someone went down the street opening mailboxes, probably checking for mail that might have been left overnight as an indicator that the house was vacant over the holiday weekend. My mailbox was the last on this end of the string that was left open. Two doors down from me, someone punched out the door lock on the truck parked in the driveway. Truck wasn't stolen... we can only guess whether or not the thief was after the truck or only what was in it.

We're guessing that when he got to our house, with its empty driveway, he spotted the neighbor's truck and stopped worrying about mailboxes.

My dog, a waist-tall 95 or so pound German Shepherd barks when someone comes into, or too near, the yard.

Heh heh.. Good Boy!

:D Glamour shot below:
 

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